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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 14, 2021 0:28:16 GMT -5
If that were true half the talents they've been pushing or featuring wouldn't be getting pushed or featured. Jay's definitely a case of a name talent becoming available... but I dont see how they weren't aware of the allegations before signing If not idk how that's slip past them. They def know This was a "name signing" hoping the fans buy into it and not question it My worry is now it's gonna be a downer time any time he appears on TV. After one of the best PPV's I've seen in quite some time... that's such a depressing outlook lol Crowd popped huge for him... but it's also dependant on how much the accusations spread and how much stock people also put into them.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 14, 2021 0:29:20 GMT -5
The whole thing really does kind of feel like, "We can't sign Ric Flair so let's sign a guy who's a pretty good Ric Flair impersonator, in more ways than one."
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 14, 2021 0:29:22 GMT -5
They should have hired Gresham instead. Throw money at him. He checks all the boxes and doesn’t have the checkered history Lethal does. Gresham might wanna go to Impact tbh... Grace is there and that's gotta be a selling point I don't see how AEW wouldn't pursue him though
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Post by Cyno on Nov 14, 2021 0:29:28 GMT -5
This is the first AEW signing I'm not on board with at all. Way too much baggage on him.
At the very least, keep him far, far away from the women's locker room.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 14, 2021 0:29:38 GMT -5
The f*** is AEW thinking signing this dude? I don't get it. These dudes really care more about who's talented and known more than anything else it seems like. Like I said "nice contributor" to the roster but he's been washed for a good min as an act The hope is they hope people forgot about that mess since ROH kept pushing Lethal like nothing happened If there is major blowback, can't see how Lethal remains on the roster Cynically, I don’t see that blowback happening
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 14, 2021 0:30:12 GMT -5
The whole thing really does kind of feel like, "We can't sign Ric Flair so let's sign a guy who's a pretty good Ric Flair impersonator, in more ways than one." Which would be weird because they leaned WAY more into the Black Machismo thing than Flair.
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Post by Celgress on Nov 14, 2021 0:30:21 GMT -5
No thank you. As a female fan of AEW, I don't want guys with these accusations in the company. Another thing, this signing comes on the heels of a conference call in which Tony Khan had to apologize for a comment he made. The comment gave the impression (rightly or wrongly) he does not value his female talent as much as his male talent. The optics of this are terrible as is the timing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 0:30:25 GMT -5
The thing is that there are multiple accusers.. I usually like to give AEW the benefit of the doubt with stuff but I can’t with this & honestly am flat out stumped on why they signed him now.
I can’t think of a scenario why they would sign him with that out there. It wouldn’t blow over. In fact many like me are finding out about this tonight and absolutely pissed off about it.
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Post by cassonova on Nov 14, 2021 0:30:41 GMT -5
I'm surprised but not surprised. Lethal has been a solid hand and has history with the EVP's. The signing could be problematic, depending on how loud folks want to get, but he's not the only person in AEW with a problematic past.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 14, 2021 0:30:44 GMT -5
They should have hired Gresham instead. Throw money at him. He checks all the boxes and doesn’t have the checkered history Lethal does. Gresham might wanna go to Impact tbh... Grace is there and that's gotta be a selling point I don't see how AEW wouldn't pursue him though Yeah. I get that for sure, I just think AEW’s got Dragon and that’s clearly the biggest possible match in the guy’s career. We’ll see!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 14, 2021 0:32:32 GMT -5
Like I said "nice contributor" to the roster but he's been washed for a good min as an act The hope is they hope people forgot about that mess since ROH kept pushing Lethal like nothing happened If there is major blowback, can't see how Lethal remains on the roster Cynically, I don’t see that blowback happening Depends on TK honestly He is wishy washy with his responses so if he has his draws in a ruffle hoping Lethal was going be a celebrated signing, he might come off shitty but the best thing he can do is say he will look into it or do more research If he said he did his research and they still signed him, bad move
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 14, 2021 0:33:14 GMT -5
I do think his reaction come Wednesday is definitely going to be more spotty. Might not be universally negative but a lot of people don't seem to have known about the accusations and there's definitely a vocal chunk of the online response that's bringing them up.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 14, 2021 0:34:58 GMT -5
People signed from Ring Of Honor that AREN’T Danhausen: 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 0:35:21 GMT -5
The f*** is AEW thinking signing this dude? I don't get it. These dudes really care more about who's talented and known more than anything else it seems like. If that were true half the talents they've been pushing or featuring wouldn't be getting pushed or featured. Jay's definitely a case of a name talent becoming available... but I dont see how they weren't aware of the allegations before signing If not idk how that's slip past them. AEW needed more POC reps that can go and are established in wrestling. I assume they did their scouting with the accusations or they wouldnt have ever touched him. I'm ok with this considering I think Lethal desperately needed a new change of pace He might be the first TNT open challenger I could see getting the upset title win so far. Let's see. No, this is not ok just because AEW needs more POC in their uppercard picture.
AEW isn't stupid, they know his past but they probably hope people either forgot about it or they can slide it under the rug. At the end of the day yeah, AEW does need more POC in uppercard positions but if we gotta get this dude out here just because he's known, just because he's done some stuff in the past, just because he can go then that says to me that AEW would rather have all of that over (like what we said in that Main Event POC thread) someone new, not known as much and someone who can be trained well. Yall kept saying dudes were locked in contracts and yall were saying there wasn't dudes out there and now we got some more dudes getting signed and yet they're here getting Dark matches while this dude is here getting a title shot outta nowhere because he's known. Yall were saying AEW wants the best people and well I guess at the cost of that we gotta get this dude with a trash history.
These dudes are willing to try and sweep some stuff under the rug simply because some dude cut a Flair promo and can do stuff in the ring. That's f***ed up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2021 0:36:05 GMT -5
No thank you. As a female fan of AEW, I don't want guys with these accusations in the company. Another thing, this signing comes on the heels of a conference call in which Tony Khan had to apologize for a comment he made. The comment gave the impression (rightly or wrongly) he does not value his female talent as much as his male talent. The optics of this are terrible as is the timing. The f*** has been happening over the past week what the hell is thisssssss
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Post by Blade on Nov 14, 2021 0:36:56 GMT -5
It's a thorny problem for AEW, because they are clearly feeling the heat about their lack of black stars and are working to try to fix the situation. But if he has that kind of baggage, not only is it a bad look in and of itself, but it rarely stops at one or two people, so he'd be an ongoing PR headache. Also, it's not exactly a great message to send to the women in the company if they don't have very convincing evidence they think he's innocent.
(That being said, he's not going to be "stale" for most of the audience, AEW's audience is vastly bigger than ROH. Also new place, new matchups, possibly new character direction etc.)
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Post by r. on Nov 14, 2021 0:37:26 GMT -5
I'd say the best course of action is to get on Tony about it.
AEW, so far, has been pretty good about listening to fans. Giving them the reciepts could nudge them in the right direction.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 14, 2021 0:37:37 GMT -5
If that were true half the talents they've been pushing or featuring wouldn't be getting pushed or featured. Jay's definitely a case of a name talent becoming available... but I dont see how they weren't aware of the allegations before signing If not idk how that's slip past them. AEW needed more POC reps that can go and are established in wrestling. I assume they did their scouting with the accusations or they wouldnt have ever touched him. I'm ok with this considering I think Lethal desperately needed a new change of pace He might be the first TNT open challenger I could see getting the upset title win so far. Let's see. No, this is not ok just because AEW needs more POC in their uppercard picture.
AEW isn't stupid, they know his past but they probably hope people have either forgotten about it and they can slide it under the rug. At the end of the day yeah, AEW does need more POC in uppercard positions but if we gotta get this dude outta here just because he's known, just because he's done some stuff in the past, just because he can go then that says to me that AEW would rather have all of that over (like what we said in that Main Event POC thread) someone new, not known as much and someone who can be trained well. Yall kept saying dudes were locked in contracts and yall were saying there wasn't dudes out there and now we got some more dudes getting signed and yet they're here getting Dark matches while this dude is here getting a title shot outta nowhere because he's known. Yall were saying AEW wants the best people and well I guess at the cost of that we gotta get this dude with a trash history.
These dudes are willing to try and sweep some stuff under the rug simply because some dude cut a Flair promo and can do stuff in the ring. That's f***ed up.
Idk how much they knew or even if they knew the extent of it... but theyre hearing about it now. Probably would have been best to figure this out before announcing he was a full time signing but the balls gonna be in Tony's court pretty fast.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 14, 2021 0:37:58 GMT -5
Ew gross no don't. This was the downest part of the night for me.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 14, 2021 0:39:21 GMT -5
No thank you. As a female fan of AEW, I don't want guys with these accusations in the company. Another thing, this signing comes on the heels of a conference call in which Tony Khan had to apologize for a comment he made. The comment gave the impression (rightly or wrongly) he does not value his female talent as much as his male talent. The optics of this are terrible as is the timing. That is NOT what his comments came off like. He literally just boasted that he paid for his women to be on Empowerr and wanted credit for it. It was ill timed and he apologized for cutting the reporter off. In no way does that signify he thinks less of his women's roster.
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