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Post by Cyno on Mar 9, 2022 22:25:23 GMT -5
So PVZ vs. Tay it seems. That is an interesting feud. Way better than Brandi would have been, no strong hate towards Brandi but PVZ and Jade kinda both dodged a bullet in having her not be their first opponents imo. I think it will help that Tay has a martial arts background, so if anyone can help PVZ learn the ropes transitioning from MMA to wrestling, she's one of the better choices.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2022 22:26:34 GMT -5
It's her gimmick, it's how she has always been, she talks a lot of shit, and always acts like it's not a big deal It's always played off that way, she's a blowhard, and no one imo is hearing her and thinking "Yeah you're right, she's totally right" when she says her opponents suck... she's an asshole heel, it's just how she is. Yeah, but it's a flaw in the character at this point. Baker just...doesn't crack very often, and it limits her a lot. A lot of her feuds the past year would have been way more fun if opponents could visibly get under her skin. It's a really big hole in her game. What I'd personally like to see, is when she finally loses the belt, which should be next week, she finally does crack, and kinda loses it. Which leads to the Hayter feud.
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Post by petef3 on Mar 9, 2022 22:26:46 GMT -5
I went back on my word not to go into the Dynamite thread, but I responded to a notification without really thinking. Apologies for that. So let me make this point here:
(In response to a comparison between Baker and fellow asshole heel MJF): MJF's response gets to the core of my complaint: WHATEVER Baker's "proper" response should have been, a feud doesn't work without DEVELOPMENT and ADVANCEMENT. MJF steals a win from Punk in Punk's hometown. Punk strikes back with a terrifying challenge. MJF is so shook that he can't respond for once. Then he comes out and swerves us with his promo the following week. Then he swerves us again, having realized he needs to go to depths he's never gone to before. Then Wardlow screws up his best-laid plans and costs him. Masterful booking that was always going somewhere.
Baker, meanwhile, was an arrogant cheating b*tch 3 weeks ago, was an arrogant cheating b*tch at the PPV just like she's been for her last 10 title defenses, and was an arrogant cheating b*tch tonight. Rosa beat Baker a year ago. Baker downplays it because it was unsanctioned. Baker cheats. Baker buries Rosa because her one win was unsanctioned. Baker gets put in a cage and responds by...burying Rosa and talking about how her win didn't count because it was unsanctioned. It feels like NOTHING has progressed in this feud.
This is a weird comparison that just struck me, but this is like the 1990 Rude-Warrior title program with the heel-babyface roles reversed. The entire premise is built on, "I beat you a year ago" and then nothing else, with the two characters operating in different worlds.
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Post by markymark on Mar 9, 2022 22:26:58 GMT -5
There are entire crowds who have cheered her or liked her, we've had FAN users at shows life even back this up. And any woman who has lost to her has existed afterwards and still had a career Do you not yet understand why you're getting this reputation of being someone who "Irrationally hates Jade"? You can keep saying it's false, but you keep following it up with irrational hatred in the very same statements dude. You are constantly trying to downplay her, because you very clearly do not like her, and I don't know how else to take it at this point. Dude I don't dislike Jade. Stop attacking me because I don't think she should be TBS champion and should've waited at least 12 months before getting that pushed. Let's start with Anna Jay (am i allowed to mention her name with being attacked, Ganged up on or called obsessed?) She was more over than Jade during their match. You don't want too hear it because it's true. Funny how you don't mention that and downplay her as a talent but at the same time call me someone that hates on Jade when that's not true at all, hate the way that she's booked but don't hate her, I wish people would see the difference. Also I dislike how Anna and Tay have been buried. Look at these stats between Jade and Anna Singles Matches won on Dynamite - Jade 10 Anna 0 Singles matches on TV since last match against each other - Jade 5 Anna 0 Title matches - Jade 6-0 Anna 0-2 TayJay 0-6 It's bullshit. And if Jade was booked how Anna was booked I bet you'd be the first to complain I watch NXT on occasions. Look at how they present the likes of Tiffany Stratton or Nikita. Anna is lightyears ahead of them but they get showcase matches, get star treatment entrances, get vignettes etc, and then they stink up the joint as soon as the bell rings, but they get treated like a big deal. When I watch that I think why can't TK build her up the same way? Is he incapable of doing it or does he just not want to do it because he doesn't want to risk anyone potentially overshadowing jade. Tiffany and Nikita have been built up better in NXT in 2 months than Anna has in AEW in 2 years and you don't see that as a problem?? Honestly, if Cody does indeed go to WWE I think Anna will be one of the first ones to jump ship. Cody trains her, she has exactly what WWE are looking for and she's on Dynamite about once every 4 months and when she is its to take an L. It doesn't take much to join the dots, because at this point what's even the point in her staying? She's proved multiple times that she should be used more on TV but has this ceiling on her because TK is only interested in pushing 2 or 3 Women
No kidding but I hope you are ready when AEW uses Anna as a sacrificial lamb for PVZ because I can see it happening so Tay gets more sympathy from the crowd.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2022 22:28:08 GMT -5
Dude I don't dislike Jade. Stop attacking me because I don't think she should be TBS champion and should've waited at least 12 months before getting that pushed. Let's start with Anna Jay (am i allowed to mention her name with being attacked, Ganged up on or called obsessed?) She was more over than Jade during their match. You don't want too hear it because it's true. Funny how you don't mention that and downplay her as a talent but at the same time call me someone that hates on Jade when that's not true at all, hate the way that she's booked but don't hate her, I wish people would see the difference. Also I dislike how Anna and Tay have been buried. Look at these stats between Jade and Anna Singles Matches won on Dynamite - Jade 10 Anna 0 Singles matches on TV since last match against each other - Jade 5 Anna 0 Title matches - Jade 6-0 Anna 0-2 TayJay 0-6 It's bullshit. And if Jade was booked how Anna was booked I bet you'd be the first to complain I watch NXT on occasions. Look at how they present the likes of Tiffany Stratton or Nikita. Anna is lightyears ahead of them but they get showcase matches, get star treatment entrances, get vignettes etc, and then they stink up the joint as soon as the bell rings, but they get treated like a big deal. When I watch that I think why can't TK build her up the same way? Is he incapable of doing it or does he just not want to do it because he doesn't want to risk anyone potentially overshadowing jade. Tiffany and Nikita have been built up better in NXT in 2 months than Anna has in AEW in 2 years and you don't see that as a problem?? Honestly, if Cody does indeed go to WWE I think Anna will be one of the first ones to jump ship. Cody trains her, she has exactly what WWE are looking for and she's on Dynamite about once every 4 months and when she is its to take an L. It doesn't take much to join the dots, because at this point what's even the point in her staying? She's proved multiple times that she should be used more on TV but has this ceiling on her because TK is only interested in pushing 2 or 3 Women
No kidding but I hope you are ready when AEW uses Anna as a sacrificial lamb for PVZ because I can see it happening so Tay gets more sympathy from the crowd.
Dude, do us all a favor, and don't rile this user up, it keeps derailing this thread.
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Post by Chris Legentil -- Mind Freak on Mar 9, 2022 22:30:38 GMT -5
So PVZ vs. Tay it seems. That is an interesting feud. Actually really excited to see those two work together given their backgrounds.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 9, 2022 22:30:47 GMT -5
Dude I don't dislike Jade. Stop attacking me because I don't think she should be TBS champion and should've waited at least 12 months before getting that pushed. Let's start with Anna Jay (am i allowed to mention her name with being attacked, Ganged up on or called obsessed?) She was more over than Jade during their match. You don't want too hear it because it's true. Funny how you don't mention that and downplay her as a talent but at the same time call me someone that hates on Jade when that's not true at all, hate the way that she's booked but don't hate her, I wish people would see the difference. Also I dislike how Anna and Tay have been buried. Look at these stats between Jade and Anna Singles Matches won on Dynamite - Jade 10 Anna 0 Singles matches on TV since last match against each other - Jade 5 Anna 0 Title matches - Jade 6-0 Anna 0-2 TayJay 0-6 It's bullshit. And if Jade was booked how Anna was booked I bet you'd be the first to complain I watch NXT on occasions. Look at how they present the likes of Tiffany Stratton or Nikita. Anna is lightyears ahead of them but they get showcase matches, get star treatment entrances, get vignettes etc, and then they stink up the joint as soon as the bell rings, but they get treated like a big deal. When I watch that I think why can't TK build her up the same way? Is he incapable of doing it or does he just not want to do it because he doesn't want to risk anyone potentially overshadowing jade. Tiffany and Nikita have been built up better in NXT in 2 months than Anna has in AEW in 2 years and you don't see that as a problem?? Honestly, if Cody does indeed go to WWE I think Anna will be one of the first ones to jump ship. Cody trains her, she has exactly what WWE are looking for and she's on Dynamite about once every 4 months and when she is its to take an L. It doesn't take much to join the dots, because at this point what's even the point in her staying? She's proved multiple times that she should be used more on TV but has this ceiling on her because TK is only interested in pushing 2 or 3 Women
No kidding but I hope you are ready when AEW uses Anna as a sacrificial lamb for PVZ because I can see it happening so Tay gets more sympathy from the crowd.
It's all good, she's already buried so might as well put flowers on the grave
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Post by holyshida on Mar 9, 2022 22:32:56 GMT -5
No kidding but I hope you are ready when AEW uses Anna as a sacrificial lamb for PVZ because I can see it happening so Tay gets more sympathy from the crowd.
Dude, do us all a favor, and don't rile this user up, it keeps derailing this thread. dude, stop taking the moral f***ing highground, it's incredibly annoying. Your the one that starts shit with me and when I respond you attack me then act all innocent like you've done nothing wrong and holier than thou attitude
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Post by markymark on Mar 9, 2022 22:35:16 GMT -5
No kidding but I hope you are ready when AEW uses Anna as a sacrificial lamb for PVZ because I can see it happening so Tay gets more sympathy from the crowd.
Dude, do us all a favor, and don't rile this user up, it keeps derailing this thread. I dont want to upset him but its just unfortunately how often AEW has booked TayJay, I was expecting Anna to face Jade one more time as it was teased on Road to Dynamite but seems that there was a last min change of plans.
Also like you said PVZ vs Tay is a much bigger upgrade over PVZ vs Brandi, which wouldve had the crowd side with PVZ and Brandi getting booed out of the building, no more Brandi hogging the spotlight at the expense of others is a big positive, now its Tays spotlight the PVZ should be used to elevate her.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 9, 2022 22:43:07 GMT -5
No kidding but I hope you are ready when AEW uses Anna as a sacrificial lamb for PVZ because I can see it happening so Tay gets more sympathy from the crowd.
It's all good, she's already buried so might as well put flowers on the grave Not shocking you've lost what the definition of "Buried" is along the road of these discussions too. 14-2 in her last 16 matches, I get she lost to Jade and hasn't won a Dynamite match in awhile, but if we're looking at Anna Jay and saying "Burial" at this point, we've jumped the shark on this convo, and this isn't me taking some "Holier than thou" attitude with you, multiple posters have expressed that you are absolutely overreacting, yet for some reason I am zero'd in on as the issue.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 9, 2022 22:43:51 GMT -5
Holy shit, enough.
Locked.
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