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Post by Rolent Tex on Apr 19, 2022 7:38:42 GMT -5
I really have no idea what the appeal of this dude is. Kind of just seems like the epitome of, "Mediocre generically handsome guy." For real, this dude SUCKS. I know WWE gets a hair up their ass about some random buns dude every couple years or so but this dude gotta be up there in terms of being terrible. Literally a CAW when you haven’t unlocked any moves or gear yet. WrestleMania was the first show I watched in a long time. My wife saw Theory and asked why all of these new guys all look the same. She’s onto the WWE Developmental CAW Creator.
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Post by nisidhe on Apr 19, 2022 7:39:30 GMT -5
I really have no idea what the appeal of this dude is. Kind of just seems like the epitome of, "Mediocre generically handsome guy." For real, this dude SUCKS. I know WWE gets a hair up their ass about some random buns dude every couple years or so but this dude gotta be up there in terms of being terrible. Literally a CAW when you haven’t unlocked any moves or gear yet. Theory needs...so much work. Beating Balor did nothing for him, and that little in-ring celebration did even less. If anything, it's probably garnered him go home/switch the channel heat, not to mention the stink of being one of McMahon's "chosen." Sure he's young, but a long stretch of being treated above his grade will wear him out in people's minds very, _very_ quickly. He doesn't have the name value Orton had, and I don't see the intangible "It" factor that would make him the next Cena. And now he's US Champion on a roster utterly devoid of babyfaces not otherwise engaged. And he'll moulder away until Ezekiel or a newly-single Riddle knocks him off his perch and he goes back to feuding with...whom, exactly? Fergal Devitt will be swept up in a heartbeat by just about any promotion that can afford him; those who can't will likely push for investors to get the money together to get him. He might just tip the scales on Friday nights if Tony Khan debuts him on Rampage. Can you imagine the possibilities? Danielson? Moxley? Omega? Devitt vs Page for the title? CM PUNK, for Christ's sake. New Japan would take him back in a hot second if only to revive Bullet Club as the ass-kicking gaijin faction of its heyday - and they may even put the big title on him at least once as a "domo arigato" title reign. He's done the worldwide travel thing before and he can easily do it again if he wants, especially if it means seeing the green, green grass of home more often. To say nothing of what would become of NXT UK were he to put his name on a non-WWE-affiliated promotion in the UK or ROI. Look at Devitt's options in WWE now - none. They made him a chump in that world, but damned if their failure didn't make him even more valuable elsewhere. They're dropping Obi-Wan Kenobi for Jar-Jar Binks, imho.
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Post by J is Thunder Justice on Apr 19, 2022 7:50:21 GMT -5
Can't say he's done much for me, so far, but he definitely has the look of a star.
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Post by BlahBlah on Apr 19, 2022 8:41:57 GMT -5
Disagree hard that he sucks.... has pretty much all of the tools and they're taking time to polish him appropriately.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 9:19:26 GMT -5
It's probably the most inexplicable push I've seen in WWE since I've started watching. The dude just screams "midcard act" - there's absolutely nothing about him that stands out, beyond a shitty rehash of Tyler Breeze's selfie gimmick.
I mean hell, at least Jinder looked like a typical main eventer (by virtue of being roided to the gills, but still).
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Post by Fade on Apr 19, 2022 9:40:08 GMT -5
I really don’t get people’s befuddlement with his push. He’s a young, good looking cat, who’s been there for a minute, shown some versatility in character, isn’t dog shit on the mic, has shown charisma, is flashy and slick in the ring, and lived up to the challenge of his first WM being an insanely high profile match with a celebrity who only had a few matches under his belt.
It reminds me of Max Caster or Ten in AEW. If you’ve got a good looking guy who shows potential, you want to nurture & build them up to see if they can thrive. But comparing those two, Caster’s 32, Ten is 29 and both are green in the ring. Compare that to Theory.
I guess Yuta is a much more appropriate comparison. Like, why wouldn’t you want to protect and push guys who are showing potential in literally all the categories? Haha. Of course not everything is clicking yet. They’re long term investments that are already showing promise.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 19, 2022 9:43:09 GMT -5
I vaguely (for some reason) remember the rookie, "chosen", Drew McIntyre (I mainly remember 3MB McIntyre from his initial run). Is Theory mirroring some of that?
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Post by eJm on Apr 19, 2022 9:49:00 GMT -5
Honestly, if Vince wasn't attached to the hip on the guy, I'd have less of a problem with the Theory push. Right now, it comes off as obviously forced and whilst it's not like it's hopeless for the guy, the only potential I see for him is getting released, having an awesome Impact run and coming back to actually being good. Because that seems to happen with all the people Vince interacts with.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 19, 2022 9:49:39 GMT -5
I could see him working better as a face. I saw glimpses of it during the Elimination Chamber with Brock. Turn him face in 2023, give him another midcard reign and then have him win the Big one at Mania 40
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 9:54:25 GMT -5
I really don’t get people’s befuddlement with his push. He’s a young, good looking cat, who’s been there for a minute, shown some versatility in character, isn’t dog shit on the mic, has shown charisma, is flashy and slick in the ring, and lived up to the challenge of his first WM being an insanely high profile match with a celebrity who only had a few matches under his belt. See other than him doing well at Mania I disagree with pretty much all that. The dude to me is just bland. He looks like a generic CAW, his wrestling is fine but totally unremarkable, and I get absolutely no sense of charisma or anything compelling about him. Max Caster is funny as hell, 10 is built like a brick shithouse, and Wheeler Yuta had incredible matches with Danielson and Moxley; Theory just...exists.
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Post by BlahBlah on Apr 19, 2022 10:00:31 GMT -5
I really don’t get people’s befuddlement with his push. He’s a young, good looking cat, who’s been there for a minute, shown some versatility in character, isn’t dog shit on the mic, has shown charisma, is flashy and slick in the ring, and lived up to the challenge of his first WM being an insanely high profile match with a celebrity who only had a few matches under his belt. See other than him doing well at Mania I disagree with pretty much all that. The dude to me is just bland. He looks like a generic CAW, his wrestling is fine but totally unremarkable, and I get absolutely no sense of charisma or anything compelling about him. Max Caster is funny as hell, 10 is built like a brick shithouse, and Wheeler Yuta had incredible matches with Danielson and Moxley; Theory just...exists. I feel like this understates what a big deal it is to do well at Mania, especially in your first match at his age.
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Post by Legion on Apr 19, 2022 10:05:07 GMT -5
Lol, people bitch for months, for years even, that WWE wont make new stars and rely on nostalgia or old men past their prime.
WWE tries to make a new star, people bitch it's the wrong guy and the guy he beat, who is 40, is buried and must leave before his career, a career which includes being a tag run away from being a grand slam champion, is ruined.
Love it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 10:05:28 GMT -5
I can't really complain, I think he's fine where he is right now. IMO he's going to have to show a hell of a lot more before they push him beyond that US/IC Title level, but he's still extremely young so there's plenty of time.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 19, 2022 10:08:33 GMT -5
Him being the chosen one of Vince McMahon does him no favours whatsoever, as we saw with the push of Drew McIntyre. There is something there with Austin Theory, but this current gimmick of The ATL, Selfies and being chosen by Vince ain't it.
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Post by Jayson Tatum Paxley on Apr 19, 2022 10:11:30 GMT -5
Theorist block party
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 19, 2022 10:13:19 GMT -5
I keep forgetting that Balor is 40
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 10:17:55 GMT -5
Lol, people bitch for months, for years even, that WWE wont make new stars and rely on nostalgia or old men past their prime. WWE tries to make a new star, people bitch it's the wrong guy and the guy he beat, who is 40, is buried and must leave before his career, a career which includes being a tag run away from being a grand slam champion, is ruined. Love it. I mean that sounds good on paper, but he barely counts as a Universal champion and his runs with both the IC and US Titles were completely forgettable. I'm glad WWE is trying to push a young star, but Finn should also be so much more than he is on the main roster.
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Post by Fade on Apr 19, 2022 10:32:54 GMT -5
Lol, people bitch for months, for years even, that WWE wont make new stars and rely on nostalgia or old men past their prime. WWE tries to make a new star, people bitch it's the wrong guy and the guy he beat, who is 40, is buried and must leave before his career, a career which includes being a tag run away from being a grand slam champion, is ruined. Love it. I mean that sounds good on paper, but he barely counts as a Universal champion and his runs with both the IC and US Titles were completely forgettable. I'm glad WWE is trying to push a young star, but Finn should also be so much more than he is on the main roster. Agreed. In this context, it makes sense. But they’ve squandered Finn so, so hard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 10:36:37 GMT -5
It's pretty easy to see why he's being pushed. He's got a good height and weight (around to where Cena was tbh), he can talk, he's got some type of character and he's young. He can also go in the ring. He's not super amazing on any level or anything but he's not trash or bad in any area. He's good in all areas. Like, there's no other younger talent on the roster at his age really doing it like that and if so, they're missing at least one area where he's good in. The fact he's 24 and has personality goes a long way. I keep forgetting that Balor is 40 Man's been in the WWE system for 8 years now. He's good. He doesn't need to be pushed compared to newer stars anymore. He's fine.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Apr 19, 2022 11:46:21 GMT -5
Who the hell is he going to feud with over the US title because right now the only face midcarders I believe are Ciampa & Ezekiel
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