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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 19, 2021 18:11:06 GMT -5
Place your bets. Can this happen?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2021 18:22:37 GMT -5
Should be Sami, but it'll be KO.
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Post by msc on Dec 19, 2021 18:27:57 GMT -5
Has a question ever led you up the path to "Neither"?
But for the hell of it, Sami turns face again in 2022 and is mega over wins the belt. Inevitably then feuds with Kevin.
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Post by Fade on Dec 19, 2021 18:51:45 GMT -5
Should be Sami, but it'll be KO. Seriously, it’s without a doubt KO that’s more likely but a Sami reign with his character work of the last few years sounds so cool.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 19, 2021 20:38:49 GMT -5
If Brock interferes to help Sami win the WWE title and we have closure to the Brock-Sami storyline. I will watch WWE forever!
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Dec 19, 2021 21:03:59 GMT -5
Logically, Kevin, who has a title shot in two weeks
Sami is on the other brand.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 19, 2021 21:10:27 GMT -5
I doubt either of them ever will be but KO's in the vastly stronger position to do so.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 19, 2021 23:58:02 GMT -5
Both will hold titles in AEW before either will be WWE anything-champions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 0:37:38 GMT -5
Neither.
Maybe it's the old school fan in me but I can't imagine anybody is stopping the channel to see a fat guy in a t shirt and gym shorts.
It sounds harsh but it's true.
The reason wrestling isn't big anymore is because they are catering to the "indy wrestling" fans too much. Whether we want to admit it or not, casual wrestling/potential new viewer fans want to see badass looking muscular guys like Batista, Cena, Lesnar, HHH, Hogan, Rock, etc. Not small, skinny or fat guys. There's exceptions like Mick Foley but he had the character stuff down better than anybody. Same as Wyatt.
I'm not saying I don't enjoy good matches... But I equally enjoy cool looking wrestlers with good gimmicks and characters.
"Basketball Gym Wrestler" doesn't quite scream "This guy is going to change the industry" to me.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 20, 2021 0:59:49 GMT -5
Both will hold titles in AEW before either will be WWE anything-champions. I mean... technically Owens was already the WWE Universal Champion...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 1:26:03 GMT -5
Blah blah, Kevin Owens is fat. Blah blah.
Same shallow analysis for why pro wrestling isn't as popular as it once was.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 20, 2021 1:48:23 GMT -5
Booking for supposed fans that MIGHT watch your show sounds like a terrible idea.
If you have people watching that are behind your wrestler... you should get behind them as well to make money off the people tuning in instead of potentially losing money in the form of fans you have (either not paying or like has been happening straight up LEAVING) while you chase money that you don't and likely NEVER WILL have.
Because the idea that there are these millions of fans just waiting to tune into something is a pipe dream... any people that stopped watching post Attitude Era have moved on to other things by now.
Ignoring that media and entertainment is SO fragmented now in a ways it hasn't been in the past... that it is impossible to pull the same numbers as tehy did in like the Hogan Era.
Not to mention that the mainstream has basically been shattered in ways that there basically ISN'T a mainstream anymore.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 20, 2021 12:31:12 GMT -5
Both will hold titles in AEW before either will be WWE anything-champions. I mean... technically Owens was already the WWE Universal Champion... I should have added "again". I just don't see either of them sticking around much longer. It feels almost like the 90s Marvel Comics exodus to Image.
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Post by Woo on Dec 20, 2021 13:08:23 GMT -5
I mean... technically Owens was already the WWE Universal Champion... I should have added "again". I just don't see either of them sticking around much longer. It feels almost like the 90s Marvel Comics exodus to Image. Owens just signed a contract extension to 2025.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 20, 2021 16:42:19 GMT -5
KO will be Champion by the end of next year. I wouldn't be shocked if he won it at Day One, but I wouldn't say it definitively happens. Sami... I just can't see it. Not unless they give him a drastic overhaul and return him to being an underdog babyface. And the problem is, it's so easy to hate him that I don't think he ever could go back to old gimmick.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 20, 2021 17:44:58 GMT -5
Neither. Maybe it's the old school fan in me but I can't imagine anybody is stopping the channel to see a fat guy in a t shirt and gym shorts. It sounds harsh but it's true. The reason wrestling isn't big anymore is because they are catering to the "indy wrestling" fans too much. Whether we want to admit it or not, casual wrestling/potential new viewer fans want to see badass looking muscular guys like Batista, Cena, Lesnar, HHH, Hogan, Rock, etc. Not small, skinny or fat guys. There's exceptions like Mick Foley but he had the character stuff down better than anybody. Same as Wyatt. I'm not saying I don't enjoy good matches... But I equally enjoy cool looking wrestlers with good gimmicks and characters. "Basketball Gym Wrestler" doesn't quite scream "This guy is going to change the industry" to me. Punk and Bryan don’t look like larger than life muscular guys but they both literally changed the industry
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 17:47:10 GMT -5
Owens will be world champion within the next 6 months. Absolutely. Especially since he re-signed.
Big E is dope and I've loved his reign but with every reign, we always have to look at who will beat these champions for the title and how things will play out. It's clear Owens and Rollins are next in line for that belt. Both of them.
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Post by Mecca on Dec 20, 2021 17:50:40 GMT -5
Zayn is getting the re-signed push thar Cesaro got, in a few months he'll get beat down by a top guy and go back to where he was.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 20, 2021 22:09:24 GMT -5
Who cares about the world when KO was champion of the Universe
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2021 22:34:48 GMT -5
Neither. Maybe it's the old school fan in me but I can't imagine anybody is stopping the channel to see a fat guy in a t shirt and gym shorts. It sounds harsh but it's true. The reason wrestling isn't big anymore is because they are catering to the "indy wrestling" fans too much. Whether we want to admit it or not, casual wrestling/potential new viewer fans want to see badass looking muscular guys like Batista, Cena, Lesnar, HHH, Hogan, Rock, etc. Not small, skinny or fat guys. There's exceptions like Mick Foley but he had the character stuff down better than anybody. Same as Wyatt. I'm not saying I don't enjoy good matches... But I equally enjoy cool looking wrestlers with good gimmicks and characters. "Basketball Gym Wrestler" doesn't quite scream "This guy is going to change the industry" to me. Punk and Bryan don’t look like larger than life muscular guys but they both literally changed the industry I like both of those guys but I'm not sure I'd go that far. Changing the Industry is doing what Hogan, Rock, Austin and to a lesser extent Cena did. Punk was a big star in WWE but does anybody who doesn't follow wrestling know who he is? I'm not talking about MMA fans. I mean the average guy on the street. Has AEW's ratings increased since signing these two? Don't get me wrong. I like them both. I'm glad they're in AEW. But they haven't exactly had a "Nash and Hall in WCW" effect, have they? As for them not being skinny and muscular guys... That was kinda their whole shtick. That they were "different" and going against the grain. That's what made them popular. But there's a reason that's against the grain and not the "norm". It's because action hero looking guys with crazy characters and looks are what brings in the money. That's why Ultimate Warrior is one of the biggest stars ever and Bobby Eaton isn't.
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