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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:49:11 GMT -5
When Rosa does win the title, why should we even care? There's nobody for her to have a meaningful feud with. Just focusing on this singular point - Rose - Soho - Serena/Shida winner - Statlander/Leyla winner (Velvet's in that mix too) - VanZant maybe, she's probably going for the TBS Title I'd think - Diamante and Emi could be easy stop gap feuds if allowed - Abadon's always there to break glass on Bunny, Ford, Anna, Conti are all kinda around there too though idk about running that now. Baker and Hayter probably happens AWAY from the belts. Martinez would need build if they try and do a third match so quickly. Like I get that the women's division still needs work and the right time could have been tonight, but I don't consider it a joke and I do consider progress being made in comparison to the pandemic era too. I think you have every right to be pissed, but in terms of thinking about who Rosa could realistically face, I don't have a huge problem thinking of challengers at least.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:50:10 GMT -5
I just want this division to stop being an endless quagmire of misery where the only end goals are to make Britt and Jade look good, even as neither one is seemingly capable of actually having a good match at this point. For the record, I at least thought Tay had a quite good match with Jade at the PPV. I agree, I thought it overdelivered, actually, more than I expected. Jade also sold her ass off more than she ever did before.
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Post by Blade on Mar 7, 2022 0:50:34 GMT -5
This division is a joke. Every single time somebody talks about the problems, there's the insistence that it'll "get better" when this promotion is into it's fourth year. Or they'll talk about the pandemic, like we don't have so many women on the US scene already. Britt Baker is basically the reign of terror Triple H at this point. It certainly doesn't help in kayfabe nobody seems to give a shit that she's always having her goons help her. You'd think by now maybe TK or someone would ban them from ringside, but I guess she's his darling in kayfabe, as well as real life. The division is not "there" yet, but it's definitively gotten better just in the year I've been watching, and if anyone thinks otherwise I would gently suggest they've forgotten just what it was like last year. There's multiple women's feuds and plotlines going on every week, getting time on TV. Last year it was literally just "Whatever Britt is doing, and occasionally Shida shows up to fight somebody".
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:54:04 GMT -5
I'm also probably alone in this, and that's fine, but this PPV had quite frankly, about five four star or higher matches on it at least, it delivered hard, and this was the only standout wet fart of an ending
I think I'd rather Rosa have her own moment on her own show, where everyone talks about her. Main event, a year after the first St. Patrick's Day Slam, in her hometown, POSSIBLY in a cage? I get the notion that "It should have been now" or "Then don't do this at the PPV"... but the potential for this moment has me pretty hyped. I hope they also overdeliver, and make up for how down everyone is here. Guess we'll see.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 7, 2022 0:56:52 GMT -5
For the record, I at least thought Tay had a quite good match with Jade at the PPV. I agree, I thought it overdelivered, actually, more than I expected. Jade also sold her ass off more than she ever did before. Has Jade ever had a bad match according to you?? Honestly the overrating of her is ridiculous. She was fine but Tay lead her to a good match, just like Anna did. But neither of them get anywhere near the credit they deserve, its f***ing sickening. I'm not talking about you specifically just by some others I've spoke to online, you'd think Jade was the 2nd coming of Jesus the way people go on about her
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:58:16 GMT -5
I agree, I thought it overdelivered, actually, more than I expected. Jade also sold her ass off more than she ever did before. Has Jade ever had a bad match according to you?? Honestly the overrating of her is ridiculous. She was fine but Tay lead her to a good match, just like Anna did. But neither of them get anywhere near the credit they deserve, its f***ing sickening. I'm not talking about you specifically just by some others I've spoke to online, you'd think Jade was the 2nd coming of Jesus the way people go on about her Man you are SO PRESSED that I like someone you don't, lmfao. Sorry, I guess? The match overdelivered to me and that's well in part to Conti also. But please go on about me talking like someone is "The second coming of Jesus" when you GUSH over Anna like you do, lmfao
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Post by robferatu on Mar 7, 2022 1:00:48 GMT -5
I watched the pay per view in a theater with about twelve-to-eighteen strangers, and everyone audibly groaned and boo'd when Britt Baker retained the AEW Women's Championship. I really feel like they should have pulled the trigger on Thunder Rosa, but that's not to say that they can't latter down the road.
However, it has left me pretty unexcited about the next few months of the AEW Women's title picture because it just feels like it's going to be a series of filler feuds until they get back to Rosa potentially being the one to dethrone Baker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 1:00:56 GMT -5
I agree, I thought it overdelivered, actually, more than I expected. Jade also sold her ass off more than she ever did before. Has Jade ever had a bad match according to you?? Honestly the overrating of her is ridiculous. She was fine but Tay lead her to a good match, just like Anna did. But neither of them get anywhere near the credit they deserve, its f***ing sickening. I'm not talking about you specifically just by some others I've spoke to online, you'd think Jade was the 2nd coming of Jesus the way people go on about her Jade has, just, an immense amount of presence and star quality. She isn’t stellar in the ring, by any means, but I don’t think she has to be. Wrestling was built on people like her. She’s 1998 Goldberg. If you’re more of a work rate person, you’re not going to like her as much. Someone like Tay is more of, say, a 1998 Eddie Guerrero. And, as we know, his time eventually came. But, I just can’t agree that it’s objectively wrong to push Jade over Tay and/or Anna. There’s a very clear, very good reason they’re doing it.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Mar 7, 2022 1:03:04 GMT -5
For the one millionth time I've probably said this between FAN, Reddit and Twitter: the talent is there. But the problem is making them matter.
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Post by Blade on Mar 7, 2022 1:03:09 GMT -5
I agree, I thought it overdelivered, actually, more than I expected. Jade also sold her ass off more than she ever did before. Has Jade ever had a bad match according to you?? Honestly the overrating of her is ridiculous. She was fine but Tay lead her to a good match, just like Anna did. But neither of them get anywhere near the credit they deserve, its f***ing sickening. I'm not talking about you specifically just by some others I've spoke to online, you'd think Jade was the 2nd coming of Jesus the way people go on about her Perhaps the person who loves Anna Jay more than her own mother does might have a wee bit more patience with people liking somebody they don't care for.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 7, 2022 1:05:25 GMT -5
Can we stop with the idea that female wrestling fans only or mostly watch for women's wrestling? That's just blatantly false.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 7, 2022 1:06:37 GMT -5
Has Jade ever had a bad match according to you?? Honestly the overrating of her is ridiculous. She was fine but Tay lead her to a good match, just like Anna did. But neither of them get anywhere near the credit they deserve, its f***ing sickening. I'm not talking about you specifically just by some others I've spoke to online, you'd think Jade was the 2nd coming of Jesus the way people go on about her Perhaps the person who loves Anna Jay more than her own mother does might have a wee bit more patience with people liking somebody they don't care for. f*** off. No offence Blade but you seem like the sort of person that if Anna had a 5 star match with a broomstick you give all the credit to the broomstick. I'm not even going to waste my time with you Now leave me the f*** alone
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 1:07:07 GMT -5
Can we stop with the idea that female wrestling fans only or mostly watch for women's wrestling? That's just blatantly false. This. Hasn't it been proven that women come in droves for Mox, Darby, and Jungle Boy in the past?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 1:07:48 GMT -5
Perhaps the person who loves Anna Jay more than her own mother does might have a wee bit more patience with people liking somebody they don't care for. f*** off. No offence Blade but you seem like the sort of person that if Anna had a 5 star match with a broomstick you give all the credit to the broomstick. I'm not even going to waste my time with you Now leave me the f*** alone What the f*** is that response? When has Blade EVER given off the implication that he doesn't like Anna Jay? Hell when have I?? We're not the problem here dude, this shit's not ok.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2022 1:10:33 GMT -5
Jade has, just, an immense amount of presence and star quality. Honestly I'm still kind of wondering what the hell those qualities are even supposed to mean or why they should matter when she isn't capable of anything else. Honestly desperately hoping something comes from the rumors that WWE wants to scoop Jade up whenever her contract runs out. The same thing they’ve meant in pro wrestling since Superstar Billy Graham was stinking up the top of cards, in ring. She’s huge, she’s chiseled from stone, and she has a crazy amount of physical charisma. People like that always have a place in wrestling, even if they only have about 5 moves they can do successfully. And, frankly, I actually think she HAS improved in the ring. Particularly since she’s been training with Bryan. You don’t have to go far into my post history to see that I’m not even the world’s biggest Jade fan, but we’re a bunch of long-time wrestling fans posting on a wrestling board. We all know why the woman that looks like a real life superhero is getting the ass kicker push. It’s good for business, and it’s good for the vaunted “casual fans” to the extent that they exist.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 7, 2022 1:11:08 GMT -5
f*** off. No offence Blade but you seem like the sort of person that if Anna had a 5 star match with a broomstick you give all the credit to the broomstick. I'm not even going to waste my time with you Now leave me the f*** alone What the f*** is that response? When has Blade EVER given off the implication that he doesn't like Anna Jay? Hell when have I?? We're not the problem here dude, this shit's not ok. listen he's the one that got in my face. I'm not being ganged up here by both of you. He's made it very clear he's not a fan and discredits her work. Like I said it's better if you guys just leave me alone
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 1:11:54 GMT -5
Honestly I'm still kind of wondering what the hell those qualities are even supposed to mean or why they should matter when she isn't capable of anything else. Honestly desperately hoping something comes from the rumors that WWE wants to scoop Jade up whenever her contract runs out. The same thing they’ve meant in pro wrestling since Superstar Billy Graham was stinking up the top of cards, in ring. She’s huge, she’s chiseled from stone, and she has a crazy amount of physical charisma. People like that always have a place in wrestling, even if they only have about 5 moves they can do successfully. And, frankly, I actually think she HAS improved in the ring. Particularly since she’s been training with Bryan. You don’t have to go far into my post history to see that I’m not even the world’s biggest Jade fan, but we’re a bunch of long-time wrestling fans posting on a wrestling board. We all know why the woman that looks like a real life superhero is getting the ass kicker push. It’s good for business, and it’s good for the vaunted “casual fans” to the extent that they exist. Also, and this cannot be overstated, she's really getting used to the mic. She's had a lot of really good, biting lines, that stick with people, including which I saw from multiple people tonight, "THAT STUPID KARATE SHIT"
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 1:13:38 GMT -5
What the f*** is that response? When has Blade EVER given off the implication that he doesn't like Anna Jay? Hell when have I?? We're not the problem here dude, this shit's not ok. listen he's the one that got in my face. I'm not being ganged up here by both of you. He's made it very clear he's not a fan and discredits her work. Like I said it's better if you guys just leave me alone All Blade said was you're mad at me for giving Jade credit, when all you do is go on the perch for Anna Jay, that's not a BAD thing, but it IS hypocritical to act like me liking what Jade's doing is a bad thing, when you like another performer the same amount if not, and I would say probably in fact do, love Anna Jay more than I like Jade Cargill. Me complimenting her isn't some favoritism, and again, I like Tay and Anna too!
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Post by Blade on Mar 7, 2022 1:16:29 GMT -5
f*** off. No offence Blade but you seem like the sort of person that if Anna had a 5 star match with a broomstick you give all the credit to the broomstick. I'm not even going to waste my time with you Now leave me the f*** alone Dude, relax. The point is that people are allowed to like people you don't. Just like you're allowed to love Anna Jay when I don't think she's anything special. Which, by the way, does not equate to dislike. It equates to "she's perfectly fine but doesn't stand out to me". If she does, I'll be happy to say so, because I like being entertained by wrestling.
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Post by holyshida on Mar 7, 2022 1:16:58 GMT -5
listen he's the one that got in my face. I'm not being ganged up here by both of you. He's made it very clear he's not a fan and discredits her work. Like I said it's better if you guys just leave me alone All Blade said was you're mad at me for giving Jade credit, when all you do is go on the perch for Anna Jay, that's not a BAD thing, but it IS hypocritical to act like me liking what Jade's doing is a bad thing, when you like another performer the same amount if not, and I would say probably in fact do, love Anna Jay more than I like Jade Cargill. Me complimenting her isn't some favoritism, and again, I like Tay and Anna too! Right ok, whatever. I'm done with this shit. I'm off to rest. Great PPV tonight. Let's just agree on that
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