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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Mar 7, 2022 0:03:40 GMT -5
This title reign really needed more variety, and Thunder Rosa needed more everything from about April to November last year. I'm not even upset about it because of two more weeks of this reign - like, that's whatever. It's that the result and execution were just so samey and limp, and it felt to me like the wrestlers themselves were having a weaker match because of it - this was like the first Punk/Joe draw without the novelty (and in fact, with the opposite of novelty), where everything was careful and the escalation didn't go past a certain point.
...and oof, burning Leyla Hirsch on a number one contender's match on top of that? Who else is going to be Rosa's first defense, then, unless Nyla Rose is just the designated first defense forever now?
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Post by chrom on Mar 7, 2022 0:03:46 GMT -5
It's going to be fine. If this was the plan, I would've done an injury angle and had Britt face Mercedes or an equivalent but two weeks from now, it's going to be over and Rosa will rightfully get the spotlight she's earned. I think the mistake is in doing the match. But if you are going to do it here, you do what they did because two weeks later is the right time. No, the right time was tonight and AEW squandered it for an attempt at a cheap ratings ploy which is straight out of TNA's playbook
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Mar 7, 2022 0:03:57 GMT -5
If it ends at St. Patrick's Day Slam, like I'm thinking it will, then it's fine. Maybe a bit long in tooth, but in the end, Britt loses to a deserving opponent. However, if the reign continues past that, then there is something seriously wrong.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 7, 2022 0:04:44 GMT -5
Honestly I'm still not convinced they're doing the Texas thing. This whole build's been building up Hayter in the background, wouldn't be shocked if the plan is for her to be the one to beat Britt.
That being said even if you do want to end it in two weeks it still should have just ended tonight. Not at all a fan of dragging shit out entirely for the sake of it.
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Mar 7, 2022 0:04:46 GMT -5
I can live with her reign ending in San Antonio, potentially in a cage hence why the interference cost her the match and the win twice I get people need this reign to end, but it's gonna, at least we can take solace in that fact, and Rosa's pop is gonna be immense, she won't have lost anything when that time comes imo Who cares if she wins it in San Antonio? She's been made to look like a goober and an loser on par with Luger and Goto. No she hasn't. They literally are setting her up to have a match for it in her home town, and she just pinned Baker a week ago. The story is she won by intereference and eventually her stable wont be able to help her. This is Mid-Atlantic, Florida 101.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:04:55 GMT -5
If Rosa was winning the title in San Antonio then don't do the match tonight. Its not rocket science. Do the tag match that happened on Dynamite or if you want a title defence then do Britt v Mercedes. Now that Rosa has lost 2 weeks before she wins the titie her reign is already going to start on the wrong foot. Awful booking decision The belts are defended on the PPVs. People would have called it awful booking if Baker didn't defend the belt, it just wasn't the ending, which you can argue is bad booking too if you like, but in two weeks, Rosa winning in what I assume is the main event of the show to a hometown explosion will make it seem moot imo.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:05:47 GMT -5
It's going to be fine. If this was the plan, I would've done an injury angle and had Britt face Mercedes or an equivalent but two weeks from now, it's going to be over and Rosa will rightfully get the spotlight she's earned. I think the mistake is in doing the match. But if you are going to do it here, you do what they did because two weeks later is the right time. No, the right time was tonight and AEW squandered it for an attempt at a cheap ratings ploy which is straight out of TNA's playbook It's the one year anniversary of the lights out and it's in her hometown It's not a cheap ratings ploy, this almost never happens, frankly, for stars to align like that, and calling it TNA is just a huge reach imo.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 7, 2022 0:05:56 GMT -5
Who cares if she wins it in San Antonio? She's been made to look like a goober and an loser on par with Luger and Goto. Well the thing is, Goto never won it and when Luger did win it in 1997, it was a huge deal. Like, she'll be okay. Her fans will care. The crowd will care. Lots of folks here will care. It's going to be a major moment in a sold out arena in her hometown. Yeah honestly, the argument right now is should they have just held off till the San Antonio show rather than have this match tonight. I dont agree with the notion that Rosa was made to look bad either since they made it very clear that Rosa had Britt beat twice if not for Hayter and Rebel.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:07:08 GMT -5
Honestly I'm still not convinced they're doing the Texas thing. This whole build's been building up Hayter in the background, wouldn't be shocked if the plan is for her to be the one to beat Britt. That being said even if you do want to end it in two weeks it still should have just ended tonight. Not at all a fan of dragging shit out entirely for the sake of it. Rosa's literally being set up to have the title match in her hometown and win it, Baker/Hayter is the plan but that shit don't need a belt, Hayter probably fails to help Britt if anything which leads to the powder keg exploding.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Mar 7, 2022 0:07:24 GMT -5
That was the dumbest possible finish the could have gone with. Even diehard fans are crapping all over it. Yeah, I really don't feel like waiting until San Antonio was the right move here.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:08:03 GMT -5
This title reign really needed more variety, and Thunder Rosa needed more everything from about April to November last year. I'm not even upset about it because of two more weeks of this reign - like, that's whatever. It's that the result and execution were just so samey and limp, and it felt to me like the wrestlers themselves were having a weaker match because of it - this was like the first Punk/Joe draw without the novelty (and in fact, with the opposite of novelty), where everything was careful and the escalation didn't go past a certain point. ...and oof, burning Leyla Hirsch on a number one contender's match on top of that? Who else is going to be Rosa's first defense, then, unless Nyla Rose is just the designated first defense forever now? It's Rose or Ruby. I think you run Rosa vs Ruby because you can piggyback off All Out with it, and it'd be a fantastic face vs face type of feud.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 7, 2022 0:08:34 GMT -5
I can live with her reign ending in San Antonio, potentially in a cage hence why the interference cost her the match and the win twice I get people need this reign to end, but it's gonna, at least we can take solace in that fact, and Rosa's pop is gonna be immense, she won't have lost anything when that time comes imo Who cares if she wins it in San Antonio? She's been made to look like a goober and an loser on par with Luger and Goto. Don't you dare besmirch Goto
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Mar 7, 2022 0:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 7, 2022 0:09:37 GMT -5
I am going to back out of this thread for the most part after this but I will say this - I don't disagree too much with what people are saying here. Britt has regressed in the ring and the reign needs to end. I wouldn't have done the match tonight. And it did bring the crowd down. My main point is I think when Rosa wins in Texas, it's going to be great and everything will be fine. Especially with the AEW audience that was patient for Hangman's rise (which featured a lot of twists and turns). Once again, I disagree with how they got here but it's also going to be fine even if it could've been better.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:09:47 GMT -5
Give me a ******* break. Like I said, if Rosa doesn't win then the division is well and truly dead. I don't care about it from here on out "The division is dead" Sure sounded like it tonight, it'll probably sure sound like it'd dead when Rosa wins it in two weeks too in her home town I get the notion that people want it over with, but it's two extra weeks, at least I know when this is ending and why, unlike Roman who might just hold his title for another two f***ing years...
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Post by holyshida on Mar 7, 2022 0:10:55 GMT -5
If Rosa was winning the title in San Antonio then don't do the match tonight. Its not rocket science. Do the tag match that happened on Dynamite or if you want a title defence then do Britt v Mercedes. Now that Rosa has lost 2 weeks before she wins the titie her reign is already going to start on the wrong foot. Awful booking decision The belts are defended on the PPVs. People would have called it awful booking if Baker didn't defend the belt, it just wasn't the ending, which you can argue is bad booking too if you like, but in two weeks, Rosa winning in what I assume is the main event of the show to a hometown explosion will make it seem moot imo. then do Britt v Mercedes then. Rosa just looks like a chump here. Can you imagine Britt losing at double or nothing to Shida then winning it in Pittsburgh when Dynamite was there a month later. Of course not. I'm honestly fed up of this entire women's division. In fact I'm not even going to call it the womens division anymore I'm just going to call it the Baker/Cargill division where every babyface is a f***ing loser
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:11:26 GMT -5
I am going to back out of this thread for the most part after this but I will say this - I don't disagree too much with what people are saying here. Britt has regressed in the ring and the reign needs to end. I wouldn't have done the match tonight. And it did bring the crowd down. My main point is I think when Rosa wins in Texas, it's going to be great and everything will be fine. Especially with the AEW audience that was patient for Hangman's rise (which featured a lot of twists and turns). Once again, I disagree with how they got here but it's also going to be fine even if it could've been better. I think Tony saw San Antonio and saw the one year anniversary of their damn near five star match and just couldn't pass it up Maybe he just decided to take the L here, knowing people would be pissed, to get to the end goal. We saw this with Hangman when they lost that eliminator match and people were FURIOUS The end cam justify the means if they pull it off, that's where I'm at. They CAN pull it off, they've done it before.
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Post by Blade on Mar 7, 2022 0:12:11 GMT -5
It was a bad mistake.
It's not the end of the world or the end of the steadily improving division.
But it was a bad mistake. It deflated the crowd and half the people in the thread (myself included). It took the tornado trio match people trying to kill themselves and Regal showing up to get things moving again.
That's not on Britt. The match was fine. It got a little lost in the middle but was hot again in the last third and the crowd was into it. The problem is the booking, and the lack of understanding how underwhelming it would be after all this time for Rosa to just lose due to outside interference like... everybody else.
And this half-assed no explanation way of getting Rosa a rematch doesn't help either.
I don't know what the blind spot is with Britt. They love her, and she's good, but they just don't really seem to be able to do interesting things with her booking. They just throw her out there and expect her to kill it, but very few wrestlers can do that on their own. And then they book every single match to end with outside interference, which is just tedious. Shake that shit up a little, even Kenny didn't have the Elite factor into every match finish he had.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 7, 2022 0:13:12 GMT -5
The belts are defended on the PPVs. People would have called it awful booking if Baker didn't defend the belt, it just wasn't the ending, which you can argue is bad booking too if you like, but in two weeks, Rosa winning in what I assume is the main event of the show to a hometown explosion will make it seem moot imo. then do Britt v Mercedes then. Rosa just looks like a chump here. Can you imagine Britt losing at double or nothing to Shida then winning it in Pittsburgh when Dynamite was there a month later. Of course not. I'm honestly fed up of this entire women's division. In fact I'm not even going to call it the womens division anymore I'm just going to call it the Baker/Cargill division where every babyface is a f***ing loser Jesus christ, if people don't want to actually have a conversation and want to do this, then I'm out of this thread too. Hoping this ends in two weeks as expected though, that's my hope, or I'll be pissed too.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 7, 2022 0:15:52 GMT -5
I'm not even really particularly upset about it or anything since I saw it coming. That was kind of more just an, "Oh, of course they did," when I saw that in the results.
Still though, it is a reign that's vastly overstayed its welcome and honestly significantly deflated my view of Britt in the process, not helped by how her title defenses have been almost universally the same boring overbooked slog every time and her character's completely lost all of its fire and driving force without a system to rail against. And really I don't even especially give a damn about Thunder Rosa - she's good but in a very, "Yeah, I recognize it, but I don't get excited to see her," way - I just want this division to stop being an endless quagmire of misery where the only end goals are to make Britt and Jade look good, even as neither one is seemingly capable of actually having a good match at this point.
Even if they do the cage match thing though... It's not the end of the world waiting two more weeks but I also don't remotely think it's worth wasting the time on, especially since I really cannot claim to care about what the crowd reaction is like and, as said, it's far less that I want the belt on Rosa than it is that I want it off of Britt. And it does genuinely feel exactly like something TNA would have done for no other reason than to pop a rating.
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