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Post by asuka007 on Jan 12, 2022 23:00:34 GMT -5
I’m getting a bit tired of the Best Friends being beaten up and/or punked out constantly.
And I have ZERO interest in seeing Statlander lose to Britt again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 23:02:56 GMT -5
There’s such a massive difference between Brian Cage’s wife complaining about his spot on the card, and Cage himself wrestling for XPW, wearing an antivax and pro-steroid shirt, and making a Chris Benoit joke and Lio expressing his disapproval of TK calling his friend a bad wrestler. Particularly after Lio’s New Year’s post, I’d be severely disappointed if he’s being punished for that. Lio had been off TV weeks prior to that incident and when Dante swerved Taz, Lio was nowhere to be found. It looks like they pivoted off that angle before any of the Swole business occurred. He missed Dante’s last appearance because of a death in the family if I remember correctly. He was never written out of the storyline. Taz was still raging about him as recently as last week. I dunno, this is one that will really sour me on AEW for a while if it turns out to be what really happened.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:06:10 GMT -5
Yeah I think that'd be a badass move, and I could see that happening and it getting a major reaction I think the logical path here is gonna be Serena taking out Blue, Anna, and Conti, maybe on her way to a TBS Title match... she'd be an out of left field challenger for Jade, but it's not out of the realm of possibility if they build her up and this is a great start nah, Anna needs to start winning matches, not continue to get buried. And Tay as Cargill challenger makes more sense. Skye blue can take a loss but then leave it at that ffs I know you are REALLY hung up on wanting an Anna Jay push, but a woman who hasn't wrestled 40 matches in her career yet losing to Serena Deeb isn't a burial, chill.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 12, 2022 23:08:47 GMT -5
Didn't Lio cut a taped promo for AEW just last week?
I gave the show a 7. Interesting story stuff and I liked seeing Brody King but the matches weren't anything special. It reminded me of the more entertaining Raws from six or so years back minus an hour.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:08:55 GMT -5
Lio had been off TV weeks prior to that incident and when Dante swerved Taz, Lio was nowhere to be found. It looks like they pivoted off that angle before any of the Swole business occurred. He missed Dante’s last appearance because of a death in the family if I remember correctly. He was never written out of the storyline. Taz was still raging about him as recently as last week. I dunno, this is one that will really sour me on AEW for a while if it turns out to be what really happened. Given Lio said he and TK amicably worked things out, it'd be very weird if it was a punishment in that regard. Given how outspoken Lio is, he would have said if things went south. They might just be looking to give Dante more allies, and Lethal a reason to be on TV since he's needed one in the meantime. I know some people here are sour on Lethal, but just like Sydal he's a veteran workhorse face there for the younger talents as well. Idk what's up with Lio given he's been off Dynamite since the Battle Royal, that feels to me like an indication something else might be up, since that was well before the Tweet drama.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 12, 2022 23:09:42 GMT -5
TBF, Jade has wrestled less matches than Anna, isn’t as good, and TK threw a belt on her anyway.
The whole “so and so are green” defense kind of gets shaky after that.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:09:43 GMT -5
Didn't Lio cut a taped promo for AEW just last week? Did it make air? I dont remember if it did. On a Road To?
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Post by Cyno on Jan 12, 2022 23:12:26 GMT -5
TBF, Jade has wrestled less matches than Anna, isn’t as good, and TK threw a belt on her anyway. The whole “so and so are green” defense kind of gets shaky after that. Jade has that "Goldberg in WCW" factor to her that Anna Jay doesn't. Jay's a better wrestler than her, but Jade's much more of an attraction.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 23:13:12 GMT -5
He missed Dante’s last appearance because of a death in the family if I remember correctly. He was never written out of the storyline. Taz was still raging about him as recently as last week. I dunno, this is one that will really sour me on AEW for a while if it turns out to be what really happened. Given Lio said he and TK amicably worked things out, it'd be very weird if it was a punishment in that regard. Given how outspoken Lio is, he would have said if things went south. They might just be looking to give Dante more allies, and Lethal a reason to be on TV since he's needed one in the meantime. I know some people here are sour on Lethal, but just like Sydal he's a veteran workhorse face there for the younger talents as well. Idk what's up with Lio given he's been off Dynamite since the Battle Royal, that feels to me like an indication something else might be up, since that was well before the Tweet drama. I’m not sour on Lethal at all. I love him. A Dante/Darius/Lio/Lethal stable going up against Team Taz would be great. But, if this is just Lethal replacing Lio in the storyline, and there’s not some reason other than TK being miffed at Lio for publicly calling him out, that’ll stick in my craw. I don’t mean to hijack the ratings thread though. Lio’s absence may be worth making its own thread to discuss if it isn’t addressed soon.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:13:15 GMT -5
TBH, Jade has wrestled less matches than Anna, isn’t as good, and TK threw a belt on her anyway. The whole “so and so are green” defense kind of gets shaky after that. We need to stop acting like Anna and Jade are on the same level. Yes Jade is green, but she is just not the same as Anna, she is a chisled statue of a woman who has been undefeated from the jump who looks different than any other woman out there in all of wrestling, which is why people have connected to her and the networks apparently love her. And Anna's coming off a severe shoulder injury that put her out for like 9 months, and no longer needs to get a huge push out the gate in her young career like she was when the women's division didn't have anyone. If she loses a match to Serena Deeb, who cares? It doesn't hurt Anna one bit if they do that, Anna's the future, Serena's the now. And as I said, I could see Serena as a legit challenger to Jade so it'd be all gravy if they went that road imo.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 12, 2022 23:13:30 GMT -5
TBF, Jade has wrestled less matches than Anna, isn’t as good, and TK threw a belt on her anyway. The whole “so and so are green” defense kind of gets shaky after that. Jade doesn't do anything better than Anna Jay. The go to excuse with Jade is always "she should be dominant because of her size" lol that's bs, this isn't the 80s anymore. She's not ready as far as her in ring work goes.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 12, 2022 23:14:35 GMT -5
Given Lio said he and TK amicably worked things out, it'd be very weird if it was a punishment in that regard. Given how outspoken Lio is, he would have said if things went south. They might just be looking to give Dante more allies, and Lethal a reason to be on TV since he's needed one in the meantime. I know some people here are sour on Lethal, but just like Sydal he's a veteran workhorse face there for the younger talents as well. Idk what's up with Lio given he's been off Dynamite since the Battle Royal, that feels to me like an indication something else might be up, since that was well before the Tweet drama. I’m not sour on Lethal at all. I love him. A Dante/Darius/Lio/Lethal stable going up against Team Taz would be great. But, if this is just Lethal replacing Lio in the storyline, and there’s not some reason other than TK being miffed at Lio for publicly calling him out, that’ll stick in my craw. I don’t mean to hijack the ratings thread though. Lio’s absence may be worth making its own thread to discuss if it isn’t addressed soon. I don't think baseless speculation does anyone any favors.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:14:36 GMT -5
Given Lio said he and TK amicably worked things out, it'd be very weird if it was a punishment in that regard. Given how outspoken Lio is, he would have said if things went south. They might just be looking to give Dante more allies, and Lethal a reason to be on TV since he's needed one in the meantime. I know some people here are sour on Lethal, but just like Sydal he's a veteran workhorse face there for the younger talents as well. Idk what's up with Lio given he's been off Dynamite since the Battle Royal, that feels to me like an indication something else might be up, since that was well before the Tweet drama. I’m not sour on Lethal at all. I love him. A Dante/Darius/Lio/Lethal stable going up against Team Taz would be great. But, if this is just Lethal replacing Lio in the storyline, and there’s not some reason other than TK being miffed at Lio for publicly calling him out, that’ll stick in my craw. I don’t mean to hijack the ratings thread though. Lio’s absence may be worth making its own thread to discuss if it isn’t addressed soon. Yeah I really dont think it'd be that, I feel like that'd bring way more heat on AEW than Tony would want? This might be a personal thing with Lio and they need Dante to have backup in this feud so they slid Lethal in as well. His brother I guess isn't healthy enough yet or it might've been him?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:15:23 GMT -5
TBF, Jade has wrestled less matches than Anna, isn’t as good, and TK threw a belt on her anyway. The whole “so and so are green” defense kind of gets shaky after that. Jade doesn't do anything better than Anna Jay. The go to excuse with Jade is always "she should be dominant because of her size" lol that's bs, this isn't the 80s anymore. She's not ready as far as her in ring work goes. This is nothing but a giant circle that has derailed more than one thread, so at this point I'm just gonna say enough already, because you or Asuka are never going to agree with anyone on the subject who offers a counterpoint and it's getting downright obsessive. You guys have your very clear viewpoint and others have theirs. Let's just move on, this is a ratings thread, we have a TBS Champ/Jade discourse thread already.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 12, 2022 23:17:05 GMT -5
TBH, Jade has wrestled less matches than Anna, isn’t as good, and TK threw a belt on her anyway. The whole “so and so are green” defense kind of gets shaky after that. We need to stop acting like Anna and Jade are on the same level. Yes Jade is green, but she is just not the same as Anna, she is a chisled statue of a woman who has been undefeated from the jump who looks different than any other woman out there in all of wrestling, which is why people have connected to her and the networks apparently love her. And Anna's coming off a severe shoulder injury that put her out for like 9 months, and no longer needs to get a huge push out the gate in her young career like she was when the women's division didn't have anyone. If she loses a match to Serena Deeb, who cares? It doesn't hurt Anna one bit if they do that, Anna's the future, Serena's the now. And as I said, I could see Serena as a legit challenger to Jade so it'd be all gravy if they went that road imo. You're right they're not on the same level. Anna is way better at everything. The only thing Jade has is size. And Where's this big push Anna had at the start?? How many singles matches has she won on Dynamite??
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:18:18 GMT -5
We need to stop acting like Anna and Jade are on the same level. Yes Jade is green, but she is just not the same as Anna, she is a chisled statue of a woman who has been undefeated from the jump who looks different than any other woman out there in all of wrestling, which is why people have connected to her and the networks apparently love her. And Anna's coming off a severe shoulder injury that put her out for like 9 months, and no longer needs to get a huge push out the gate in her young career like she was when the women's division didn't have anyone. If she loses a match to Serena Deeb, who cares? It doesn't hurt Anna one bit if they do that, Anna's the future, Serena's the now. And as I said, I could see Serena as a legit challenger to Jade so it'd be all gravy if they went that road imo. You're right they're not on the same level. Anna is way better at everything. The only thing Jade has is size. And Where's this big push Anna had at the start?? How many singles matches has she won on Dynamite?? We are moving on from this. Thank you.
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Post by holyshida on Jan 12, 2022 23:18:37 GMT -5
Jade doesn't do anything better than Anna Jay. The go to excuse with Jade is always "she should be dominant because of her size" lol that's bs, this isn't the 80s anymore. She's not ready as far as her in ring work goes. This is nothing but a giant circle that has derailed more than one thread, so at this point I'm just gonna say enough already, because you or Asuka are never going to agree with anyone on the subject who offers a counterpoint and it's getting downright obsessive. You guys have your very clear viewpoint and others have theirs. Let's just move on, this is a ratings thread, we have a TBS Champ/Jade discourse thread already. fine I won't bring it up again until necessary. Hopefully she gets some credit soon.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:21:51 GMT -5
This is nothing but a giant circle that has derailed more than one thread, so at this point I'm just gonna say enough already, because you or Asuka are never going to agree with anyone on the subject who offers a counterpoint and it's getting downright obsessive. You guys have your very clear viewpoint and others have theirs. Let's just move on, this is a ratings thread, we have a TBS Champ/Jade discourse thread already. fine I won't bring it up again until necessary. Hopefully she gets some credit soon. Preferrably, I'd like to being up the notion that Anna Jay can lose to a former NWA Women's champion and it'd be absolutely fine to do so without the thread exploding and somehow turning into discourse about Jade Cargill, who wasn't even IN the conversation. Hence why I just threw my hands up, you get me? But I also hope Anna continues to develop and get her due, her hardcore tag match ruled and she deserves all the praise for it. We're good.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2022 23:22:22 GMT -5
I’m not sour on Lethal at all. I love him. A Dante/Darius/Lio/Lethal stable going up against Team Taz would be great. But, if this is just Lethal replacing Lio in the storyline, and there’s not some reason other than TK being miffed at Lio for publicly calling him out, that’ll stick in my craw. I don’t mean to hijack the ratings thread though. Lio’s absence may be worth making its own thread to discuss if it isn’t addressed soon. I don't think baseless speculation does anyone any favors. Completely agree. I’m not rushing to make a new thread, and like I said in my original post I’m definitely going to wait and see what happens from here. There’s a million non-insidious reasons Lio could be off TV. I’m just bummed more than anything because he’s one of my favorites and seemed poised to finally have that TV run that has eluded him in his career and now he’s just kind of mysteriously vanished.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 12, 2022 23:24:28 GMT -5
I don't think baseless speculation does anyone any favors. Completely agree. I’m not rushing to make a new thread, and like I said in my original post I’m definitely going to wait and see what happens from here. There’s a million non-insidious reasons Lio could be off TV. I’m just bummed more than anything because he’s one of my favorites and seemed poised to finally have that TV run that has eluded him in his career and now he’s just kind of mysteriously vanished. If he's pulled from the New Japan or GCW tapings, something is definitely up there that might just be a personal matter. We really have no idea how much that family death effected his state of mind, his family, or his plans, because he's been seldom used since it happened. But I think the absolute wrong thing to do would be to punish the guy who was being the most proactive in trying to set things straight, so yeah, I hope everything's good with him.
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