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Post by MrElijah on Jan 16, 2022 18:11:42 GMT -5
That Randy Orton-Jeff Hardy angle was a little to squeamish for me when it aired and still far worse than the blading I've seen on AEW It’s funny how many ppl were turned off by the ear bit. My gf has stretched lobes as well, she can do the same thing that Orton was doing to Hardy. Jeff was never really in any danger. Sabu goes through Barbed Wire: "Oh that whacky Sabu!" Orton puts a screwdriver through Jeff's lobe: "THROW THAT SICK SON OF A BITCH OUT THE SPORT!!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 18:16:34 GMT -5
Interesting to note from Meltzer is this is aimed at scaring advertisers off AEW. Note that dominoes never came back after the Gage thing. So whilst the fanbase might roll their eyes it could put off potential advertisers. Bare in mind that AEW has moved to TBS because whilst they're happy with the rating they're not necessarily pulling in the advertising rates that the NHL does, despite better ratings. People keep saying that, but it makes absolutely no sense to me. TNT to TBS is a lateral move at worst, and arguably an upward move. TBS is the objectively bigger, and the older network under the Turner umbrella. So, how would a move to TBS be a negative? That’s never been adequately explained to me. TNT obviously got the NHL because it’s the Turner sports network, while TBS has an historical association with wrestling.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 16, 2022 19:06:32 GMT -5
Interesting to note from Meltzer is this is aimed at scaring advertisers off AEW. Note that dominoes never came back after the Gage thing. So whilst the fanbase might roll their eyes it could put off potential advertisers. Bare in mind that AEW has moved to TBS because whilst they're happy with the rating they're not necessarily pulling in the advertising rates that the NHL does, despite better ratings. People keep saying that, but it makes absolutely no sense to me. TNT to TBS is a lateral move at worst, and arguably an upward move. TBS is the objectively bigger, and the older network under the Turner umbrella. So, how would a move to TBS be a negative? That’s never been adequately explained to me. TNT obviously got the NHL because it’s the Turner sports network, while TBS has an historical association with wrestling. TNT for marketing purposes is the more “upscale” of the two channels, is my understanding.
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Post by pencilneckgeek on Jan 16, 2022 19:23:52 GMT -5
How has this thread gone 7 pages without a gif of a bloody Vince peering up from the ring during Wrestlemania 19?
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Jan 16, 2022 19:27:44 GMT -5
For those unaware: Man, is there a more Vince-ass word than “Notwithstanding?” And also wasn't said letter written a mere month or so after a Pay Per View main event that featured Bret Hart bleeding buckets to try and get over with ECW hardcore fans that were in attendance that night? A match mind you that they also showed on RAW in its entirety a couple weeks later. Sure they had a content warning and all, but content warnings are pretty much the universal sign for "Hey you got to see this!"
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 16, 2022 20:08:13 GMT -5
I would suggest a thread where we list the ways Vince is a hypocrite but I don't think ProBoards could support a thread that long.
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Post by greyfmdan on Jan 16, 2022 20:22:48 GMT -5
Interesting to note from Meltzer is this is aimed at scaring advertisers off AEW. Note that dominoes never came back after the Gage thing. So whilst the fanbase might roll their eyes it could put off potential advertisers. Bare in mind that AEW has moved to TBS because whilst they're happy with the rating they're not necessarily pulling in the advertising rates that the NHL does, despite better ratings. People keep saying that, but it makes absolutely no sense to me. TNT to TBS is a lateral move at worst, and arguably an upward move. TBS is the objectively bigger, and the older network under the Turner umbrella. So, how would a move to TBS be a negative? That’s never been adequately explained to me. TNT obviously got the NHL because it’s the Turner sports network, while TBS has an historical association with wrestling. Not to speak for the quoted poster, but I didn’t read the poster’s comment as saying TBS was a downgrade. (I know others have tried to make that point elsewhere, and I agree with you that TBS is no downgrade.) I read it more that the poster was strictly speaking about the matter of ad rates, comparing AEW’s ad rates to those of the NHL. And from what we know, it appears that the NHL is bringing in more dollars per ad impression than AEW. As such, the NHL very well may be making as much or more money for Turner Networks as AEW is, despite the NHL’s lower ratings. But as long as both are performing well enough and bringing in good money, Turner/WarnerMedia will probably be happy either way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 21:19:49 GMT -5
People keep saying that, but it makes absolutely no sense to me. TNT to TBS is a lateral move at worst, and arguably an upward move. TBS is the objectively bigger, and the older network under the Turner umbrella. So, how would a move to TBS be a negative? That’s never been adequately explained to me. TNT obviously got the NHL because it’s the Turner sports network, while TBS has an historical association with wrestling. Not to speak for the quoted poster, but I didn’t read the poster’s comment as saying TBS was a downgrade. (I know others have tried to make that point elsewhere, and I agree with you that TBS is no downgrade.) I read it more that the poster was strictly speaking about the matter of ad rates, comparing AEW’s ad rates to those of the NHL. And from what we know, it appears that the NHL is bringing in more dollars per ad impression than AEW. As such, the NHL very well may be making as much or more money for Turner Networks as AEW is, despite the NHL’s lower ratings. But as long as both are performing well enough and bringing in good money, Turner/WarnerMedia will probably be happy either way. That’s a hard statistic to track down, but I would tend to believe that the NHL generates more ad revenue than AEW. I would tend to believe it generates more ad revenue than WWE. Hockey, in general, is likely more appealing to advertisers than wrestling, even the WWE’s sanitized brand of wrestling. I just have always interpreted the Dynamite move to be that the opportunity to get NHL rights became available to Turner, and TNT is very much more strongly positioned as its sports brand (except for baseball, historically), so Dynamite had to move to accommodate. The implication that Dynamite was moved for any other reason is just baseless to me. I didn’t mean to try and criticize anyone else’s post, I was more just commenting generally on the pervasive narrative that moving to TBS was a “demotion,” which has never made sense to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 21:26:52 GMT -5
People keep saying that, but it makes absolutely no sense to me. TNT to TBS is a lateral move at worst, and arguably an upward move. TBS is the objectively bigger, and the older network under the Turner umbrella. So, how would a move to TBS be a negative? That’s never been adequately explained to me. TNT obviously got the NHL because it’s the Turner sports network, while TBS has an historical association with wrestling. TNT for marketing purposes is the more “upscale” of the two channels, is my understanding. That makes sense to me, insofar as TNT’s programming is targeted at an older audience, but that’s as much a branding thing as anything else, I think.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 16, 2022 21:35:38 GMT -5
I mean, dude was talking about Ted Turner having an advantage over him last year. To Shareholders. Like, he's the only guy who still cares about it because Ted Turner sure as f*** doesn't. Yeah, when I first read about that, I was like, “It’s been how many years now since Ted actually had any say in the management of the networks?” Old rivalries die hard, I guess. HHH/Sting at WM 31 proved that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2022 23:23:50 GMT -5
Yeah, when I first read about that, I was like, “It’s been how many years now since Ted actually had any say in the management of the networks?” Old rivalries die hard, I guess. HHH/Sting at WM 31 proved that. In b4 “but Sting WANTED to put HHH over.”
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 16, 2022 23:36:55 GMT -5
HHH/Sting at WM 31 proved that. In b4 “but Sting WANTED to put HHH over.” You beat me to it, but he did!
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 16, 2022 23:37:07 GMT -5
People keep saying that, but it makes absolutely no sense to me. TNT to TBS is a lateral move at worst, and arguably an upward move. TBS is the objectively bigger, and the older network under the Turner umbrella. So, how would a move to TBS be a negative? That’s never been adequately explained to me. TNT obviously got the NHL because it’s the Turner sports network, while TBS has an historical association with wrestling. Not to speak for the quoted poster, but I didn’t read the poster’s comment as saying TBS was a downgrade. (I know others have tried to make that point elsewhere, and I agree with you that TBS is no downgrade.) I read it more that the poster was strictly speaking about the matter of ad rates, comparing AEW’s ad rates to those of the NHL. And from what we know, it appears that the NHL is bringing in more dollars per ad impression than AEW. As such, the NHL very well may be making as much or more money for Turner Networks as AEW is, despite the NHL’s lower ratings. But as long as both are performing well enough and bringing in good money, Turner/WarnerMedia will probably be happy either way. Yeah, sports generally gets a huge pass on violence, etc, because it's an institution. We're out of the darkest era for advertising with wrestling, probably, but still, you're not going to usually see primo sponsors like Coca-Cola on wrestling, versus sports and probably something like singing competitions, etc.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 17, 2022 1:10:16 GMT -5
Another point, lets not forget the same company who had a whole angle about Seth Rollins and taking Rey Mysterio's eye.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 17, 2022 3:57:26 GMT -5
I will grant I do think AEW could stand to cut back on the blood. Not that I mind it in its own right but it does feel like bloody brawls happen so often that it's become relatively meaningless.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 17, 2022 4:54:23 GMT -5
I would suggest a thread where we list the ways Vince is a hypocrite but I don't think ProBoards could support a thread that long. Just limit the threads to 30 pages and watch them overtake the MLP thread numbers.
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Post by Glitch on Jan 17, 2022 5:30:09 GMT -5
Triple H to Vince:"Stop,giving,them,ideas!"
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Post by nihilismizhawt on Jan 17, 2022 17:55:49 GMT -5
Can you imagine trying to scare off a competitor's advertisers because the competitor had the audacity to do well in the ratings? Its insane how people just accept Vince's insane need to be a monopoly, even into his old age. He failed with NXT, failed with signing every free agent the second they appeared on Dynamite, now its on to propaganda to hurt their business.
This is like McDonalds telling a newspaper "Hey, Wendys gave people E Coli, that just shows the difference in the companies." Shouldn't he be confident enough in making billions?
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 17, 2022 20:58:41 GMT -5
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 17, 2022 21:55:08 GMT -5
Tonight Vince threatened to kick the shit out of Austin Theory if he lost a match and then "knock his teeth out and mail them to his mother"
What I'm saying is, maybe he should shut up lmfao
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