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Post by Sparvid on Jan 24, 2022 4:51:08 GMT -5
By the way, who holds the record for longest time spent sitting out their WWE contract?
Apparently Pac sat at home for about ten and a half months.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 24, 2022 4:54:20 GMT -5
At this point dude might as well go scorched earth. If they're not going to play nice, why should he?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 24, 2022 5:29:27 GMT -5
At this point dude might as well go scorched earth. If they're not going to play nice, why should he? However long he's got left, with their current business model, they don't go without releasing anyone during that time, and if they don't release him during it, it's only going to be more embarrassing for the company. Give it until their next quarterly report or whatever, and he's probably out, but in the mean time, they get to deal with him being on trending a bunch of times and making them look bad. It's minor damage, but it's damage. |
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Post by mrtuesday on Jan 24, 2022 6:53:02 GMT -5
At this point dude might as well go scorched earth. If they're not going to play nice, why should he? However long he's got left, with their current business model, they don't go without releasing anyone during that time, and if they don't release him during it, it's only going to be more embarrassing for the company. Give it until their next quarterly report or whatever, and he's probably out, but in the mean time, they get to deal with him being on trending a bunch of times and making them look bad. It's minor damage, but it's damage. This is WWE, though. They live by "no such thing as bad press". |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 24, 2022 6:59:04 GMT -5
However long he's got left, with their current business model, they don't go without releasing anyone during that time, and if they don't release him during it, it's only going to be more embarrassing for the company. Give it until their next quarterly report or whatever, and he's probably out, but in the mean time, they get to deal with him being on trending a bunch of times and making them look bad. It's minor damage, but it's damage. This is WWE, though. They live by "no such thing as bad press". To a degree, but Zelina Vega getting a huge push after they snubbed her for the 9/11 show shows that even WWE has shame. It's an incredibly small scrap of shame, but it does exist. Here, though, I think it's less shame and more that it'd be absolutely radioactive for morale. At least whenever they get to the next cut, if Ali's in it, they can present it like his being culled "protected" someone else. I wouldn't be especially shocked if they'd holding onto him for that, sort of like how Brodie Lee finally got his release when a bunch of other people were getting released, anyhow. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 24, 2022 11:02:57 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Jan 24, 2022 11:41:36 GMT -5
By the way, who holds the record for longest time spent sitting out their WWE contract? Apparently Pac sat at home for about ten and a half months. I think Armando Estrada was under a deal for 18 months without being used. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 24, 2022 16:42:58 GMT -5
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Post by Fade on Jan 24, 2022 17:01:38 GMT -5
Damn. I wouldn’t have immediately assumed he’d be AEW bound one day but that tweet does give me hope.
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Post by Mecca on Jan 24, 2022 18:13:02 GMT -5
Damn. I wouldn’t have immediately assumed he’d be AEW bound one day but that tweet does give me hope. Ali is a great dude that everyone loves, wherever he wants to go, people are going to go to bat for him. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 29, 2022 11:23:52 GMT -5
Hey Ali, do you want to be in the Rumble tonight?
Oh. Good to know.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Jan 29, 2022 11:50:32 GMT -5
Just the let the guy go. All keeping him prisoner is doing making him more discontented and angry. WWE has no high ground at all.
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Post by Shy Guy on Jan 29, 2022 12:32:32 GMT -5
Hey Ali, do you want to be in the Rumble tonight? Oh. Good to know. I wonder how this convo actually went. "Wanna be in the rumble?" "Am I going to win?" "....can someone get Honky Tonk man on the phone? A rumble spot just opened up." |
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Post by Mecca on Jan 29, 2022 12:37:51 GMT -5
Just the let the guy go. All keeping him prisoner is doing making him more discontented and angry. WWE has no high ground at all. That and it's causing a bunch of WWE blowhards to talk shit to him on social media. |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jan 29, 2022 13:08:36 GMT -5
So is the situation basically just pure spite at this point? Like, WWE can tell him to show up at the Rumble, Ali can tell them to kick rocks and WWE is just like Ok, have fun sitting at home. It’s just a stalemate until the contract runs out? And is he getting paid during any of this?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 29, 2022 13:12:06 GMT -5
So is the situation basically just pure spite at this point? Like, WWE can tell him to show up at the Rumble, Ali can tell them to kick rocks and WWE is just like Ok, have fun sitting at home. It’s just a stalemate until the contract runs out? And is he getting paid during any of this? They’re still paying him his downside every month, he just can’t earn more from merchandise and the like since he wouldn’t be on TV as much to promote it. |
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Post by The Captain on Jan 29, 2022 13:15:10 GMT -5
Ali likely has some downside guarantee that pays him no matter what. But he loses out on any extra money he makes from appearances on the shows.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 29, 2022 13:16:34 GMT -5
Hey Ali, do you want to be in the Rumble tonight? Oh. Good to know. "Ali offered spot on the hall of fame to not ask for his release~ |
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Jan 29, 2022 14:12:19 GMT -5
It would have been hilarious if he had taken the offer, entered the ring and then jumped straight out and then went into the crowd to take selfies ala Jeff Hardy.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 29, 2022 16:05:46 GMT -5
Ali likely has some downside guarantee that pays him no matter what. But he loses out on any extra money he makes from appearances on the shows. If he still has dates on his contract then they should be able to tell him when to work. And if he refuses then they could potentially stop paying him until he comes back to work. If he has no dates left then like Pac he could sit home and collect his downside with no consequences. |
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