Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Feb 12, 2022 14:13:41 GMT -5
The only way this is happening is if he just pretends he doesn't exist so he hopes Khan puts him on a cut list or to get extremely vocal to the extent that he books appearances without their knowledge and basically says what he thinks...both could work, both could backfire.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 12, 2022 14:22:41 GMT -5
The only way this is happening is if he just pretends he doesn't exist so he hopes Khan puts him on a cut list or to get extremely vocal to the extent that he books appearances without their knowledge and basically says what he thinks...both could work, both could backfire. It's a real coin flip. I know this example is well before the Khan era but Carlito was someone who would be invited to do newspaper interviews and just go double-barrel into the company every single time, to the point where I had no idea why he was still doing interviews. But he was still there for years until he got randomly cut. On the other hand, it could just be they known the consequences but don't really care which...I mean, they don't for a lot of stuff (besides the Zelina thing which at least, they saw the terrible optics of that) but still.
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Abdullah
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Post by Abdullah on Feb 12, 2022 14:40:34 GMT -5
The only way this is happening is if he just pretends he doesn’t exist so he hopes Khan puts him on a cut list or to get extremely vocal to the extent that he books appearances without their knowledge and basically says what he thinks…both could work, both could backfire. It’s a real coin flip. I know this example is well before the Khan era but Carlito was someone who would be invited to do newspaper interviews and just go double-barrel into the company every single time, to the point where I had no idea why he was still doing interviews. But he was still there for years until he got randomly cut. On the other hand, it could just be they known the consequences but don’t really care which…I mean, they don’t for a lot of stuff (besides the Zelina thing which at least, they saw the terrible optics of that) but still. Worth noting: Carlito wasn’t randomly cut. He showed up to RAW, I think, high on pills. They sent him home. And after he refused rehab, they cut him. So, the circumstances behind his firing weren’t typical. They would have preferred to keep him, even then.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 12, 2022 14:41:42 GMT -5
It’s a real coin flip. I know this example is well before the Khan era but Carlito was someone who would be invited to do newspaper interviews and just go double-barrel into the company every single time, to the point where I had no idea why he was still doing interviews. But he was still there for years until he got randomly cut. On the other hand, it could just be they known the consequences but don’t really care which…I mean, they don’t for a lot of stuff (besides the Zelina thing which at least, they saw the terrible optics of that) but still. Worth noting: Carlito wasn’t randomly cut. He showed up to RAW, I think, high on pills. They sent him home. And after he refused rehab, they cut him. So, the circumstances behind his firing weren’t typical. They would have preferred to keep him, even then. Didn't know that, thanks. Doesn't really question why it reached that point considering the warning signs but hey. He seems happier now. Probably got paid more to be beaten up by Betty Gilpen then most of his WWE run.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 12, 2022 14:43:09 GMT -5
Poor Ali. Imagine being in a contract that's so one-sided that you can't leave for another 2.5 years, but the company could drop you at any time, for any reason. And there are still people in his replies white-knighting for WWE.
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Feb 12, 2022 14:44:50 GMT -5
Poor Ali. Imagine being in a contract that's so one-sided that you can't leave for another 2.5 years, but the company could drop you at any time, for any reason. And there are still people in his replies white-knighting for WWE. He could probably sue them but they'd drag it out longer than the 2.5 years.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 12, 2022 15:12:43 GMT -5
Poor Ali. Imagine being in a contract that's so one-sided that you can't leave for another 2.5 years, but the company could drop you at any time, for any reason. And there are still people in his replies white-knighting for WWE. He could probably sue them but they'd drag it out longer than the 2.5 years. And he’d be responsible for the legal fees, which would likely far outweigh the monetary benefit.
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Feb 12, 2022 15:18:17 GMT -5
Lets be real what he should honestly do, is start streaming on twitch, do it like 5 times a week. He should then follow that by attending every Dynamite with a front row ticket. Also open and only fans and work on getting some sponsors without the WWE being involved like Bang energy.
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Abdullah
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Post by Abdullah on Feb 12, 2022 16:04:33 GMT -5
Worth noting: Carlito wasn’t randomly cut. He showed up to RAW, I think, high on pills. They sent him home. And after he refused rehab, they cut him. So, the circumstances behind his firing weren’t typical. They would have preferred to keep him, even then. Didn't know that, thanks. Doesn't really question why it reached that point considering the warning signs but hey. He seems happier now. Probably got paid more to be beaten up by Betty Gilpen then most of his WWE run. WWE, and Vince’s mindtricks, made him very unhappy and deeply depressed. He tried to quit at least once — they gave him a ladder match with Jeff Hardy and a “you’re important to us” spiel. Go back and listen to some of the interviews he gave right after being released. It’s borderline dark stuff. I have my own ideas about how maybe he felt obligated to follow in his father’s footsteps when his heart wasn’t really in it. But, in any case, I’m really glad that he seems happier now. Always says he gets paid more than what WWE has offered him to come back.
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Post by "Sweet & Sour" ImSoFudginGreat on Feb 12, 2022 16:08:38 GMT -5
I wonder if someone with slick photoshop skills could photoshop Ali at a Dynamite show but not in an obvious way, and then spread it around social media. Or deepfake him doing a twitch stream. I have a feeling Ali is too nice of a person to sabotage so the fans should do it for him.
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Post by Fade on Feb 12, 2022 16:46:06 GMT -5
I really feel for the guy. No one is guaranteed another day in this life. As so tragically, appropriately demonstrated with Brodie Lee. Hopefully? Best case scenario is that they cut him for expenses sake (can’t believe we’re at that point in the conversation..). If people raised enough of a firestorm about it via social media, chants, the advertisers, they’d probably be inclined to let him go because it’s an absolutely terrible look. But alas doesn’t look like that’s going to happen.
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Feb 12, 2022 16:51:37 GMT -5
I really feel for the guy. No one is guaranteed another day in this life. As so tragically, appropriately demonstrated with Brodie Lee. Hopefully? Best case scenario is that they cut him for expenses sake (can’t believe we’re at that point in the conversation..). If people raised enough of a firestorm about it via social media, chants, the advertisers, they’d probably be inclined to let him go because it’s an absolutely terrible look. But alas doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. Theres still to many dumbasses that literally think they shouldn't realize him because he signed the contract.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Feb 12, 2022 16:57:17 GMT -5
has he tried grabbing Vince's forearm
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Fade
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Post by Fade on Feb 12, 2022 17:00:07 GMT -5
I really feel for the guy. No one is guaranteed another day in this life. As so tragically, appropriately demonstrated with Brodie Lee. Hopefully? Best case scenario is that they cut him for expenses sake (can’t believe we’re at that point in the conversation..). If people raised enough of a firestorm about it via social media, chants, the advertisers, they’d probably be inclined to let him go because it’s an absolutely terrible look. But alas doesn’t look like that’s going to happen. Theres still to many dumbasses that literally think they shouldn't realize him because he signed the contract. I mean, he did. “Made your bed, now lie in it”. At the same time, there’s so much bullshit -ery with WWE’s contracts that it becomes a moot point. Just let him go ya assholes >:l
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Post by PKO on Feb 12, 2022 17:03:56 GMT -5
If I were him at this point I would call WWE every day requesting my release, then tweet out every day saying I have requested my release. You’d either get your release or make good publicity simply repeating a fact.
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Post by The Captain on Feb 12, 2022 17:07:27 GMT -5
The upcoming blood money show is a good time to embarrass them on social media and that could force their hand. Not saying he should spill company secrets or anything; just bring stuff up already out there back into the public consciousness.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Feb 12, 2022 17:08:55 GMT -5
The man has a lot of pride.
As others have said on social media, I'd probably be showing my whole ass if I was in this situation, just to get them to fire me. Possibly literally (via onlyfans).
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Post by burdette25159 on Feb 12, 2022 17:13:00 GMT -5
Next time we'll see Ali is as either a substitute for a wrestler who couldn't make it to the show or is sick (Only to do jobber duty complete with Howard Finkel memorial "Currently in the Ring" entrance) or on Main Event on as a Jobber
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 12, 2022 17:14:24 GMT -5
WWE contracts are one-sided strong-arm shitshows meant to give the company all the leverage in the world and meant to destroy years of a person's life if they so choose. Ali is being punished here because he objected to an offensive storyline his boss wanted to run him through on TV, so he just has to suffer and lose out on that. Can you imagine.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 12, 2022 17:17:31 GMT -5
Poor Ali. Imagine being in a contract that's so one-sided that you can't leave for another 2.5 years, but the company could drop you at any time. That's not terribly different than a lot of contracts out there, rather unfortunately.
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