Clutchhausen
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Post by Clutchhausen on Feb 2, 2022 23:27:59 GMT -5
Welcome to the internet where apologies are never accepted despite being demanded.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 2, 2022 23:29:00 GMT -5
I do buy they weren't his real beliefs in the sense that they aren't real beliefs. You ever talk to one of these people, it's obvious that they don't think any of the specific things they're saying are true in the sense that they actually necessarily happened. They're just true in the sense that they're in line with the big-picture conclusion they want to believe. It's easy to sincerely disavow conspiratorial bullshit later without having changed your mind in any way about the conspiracy. I think there's layers to it. Kendrick talked about stuff like delousing chambers, and yeah, that was born from people who were monsters and wanted to take on bad faith science to try and justify their hatred. All the claims in the Leuchter report are insane and based on fundamentally broken science because it was never about the science, and the people who put those things together aren't genuine in what they present. But the problem is, in creating their horrible things, they then pass those lies off with authoritative tones and with 'evidence', and then people believe them. They become hooked on the misinformation peddlers and they firmly believe everything being said because they've been presented what they see as a persuasive argument. They don't look any further into it because yeah they do want to believe that that's the case and it's important to them to have that backing, but it becomes genuine truth to a lot of them. The ones at the top know it's a lie. The people who just cook up the fake stories and who peddle it on prime time news? They know. They're grifters. They're doing it for their own benefit financially, for power, or because it convinces people to be mad at who they want to be mad at. But the grifters need people to grift, and a lot of people I adamantly do not want to come off like I'm feeling bad for become true believers in wanting someone to be mad at. You can see that down at the very base level of many conspiracy theories. Too many people will tear their lives apart out of devotion to an unhinged belief and it's not because they see it as a convenient lie to tell themselves.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2022 23:37:51 GMT -5
The "Never were my beliefs" thing was just worded terribly. If you never believed in it, why say it at all? Why have so much factual information to counter arguments? If it wasnt your belief, why go through all that trouble to argue for a point you dont believe in? Because it's just that darn interesting? Well that sure paid off for you! Lmfao
I just dont get guys like this sometimes... I dont know how you think in the world of media as it is and even was back in like 2011, that you saying controversial stuff about The Holocaust and Sandy Hook wouldn't bite you in the ass later in life. Like you should probably consider this stuff when you have a sturdy job and career where no one is looking for it, and then quit and get thrust into the mainstream spotlight where suddenly everyone's digging up your past...
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2022 23:42:19 GMT -5
I have a question about this...why were Kendricks comments not an issue for the last 5 years he was employed by WWE? It's a bit odd he leaves and it's an issue..
Like no one talks about the stuff AJ said, if he ever leaves will he get buried too?
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mattyy
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Post by mattyy on Feb 2, 2022 23:48:12 GMT -5
I have a question about this...why were Kendricks comments not an issue for the last 5 years he was employed by WWE? It's a bit odd he leaves and it's an issue.. Like no one talks about the stuff AJ said, if he ever leaves will he get buried too? just wait until Sami leaves and this becomes an issue(even though right now the youtube comments are all "omg this is so funny! should totally be his new character!"). not to mention the two 1 + 2 previously mentioned aj styles clips.
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2022 23:50:30 GMT -5
I have a question about this...why were Kendricks comments not an issue for the last 5 years he was employed by WWE? It's a bit odd he leaves and it's an issue.. Like no one talks about the stuff AJ said, if he ever leaves will he get buried too? just wait until Sami leaves and this becomes an issue(even though right now the youtube comments are all "omg this is so funny! should totally be his new character!"). not to mention the two 1 + 2 previously mentioned aj styles clips. I just don't understand how no one cared till he was showing up on AEW, and it wasn't really a secret that Kendrick said a bunch of stupid conspiracy shit.
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mattyy
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Post by mattyy on Feb 2, 2022 23:53:56 GMT -5
just wait until Sami leaves and this becomes an issue(even though right now the youtube comments are all "omg this is so funny! should totally be his new character!"). not to mention the two 1 + 2 previously mentioned aj styles clips. I just don't understand how no one cared till he was showing up on AEW, and it wasn't really a secret that Kendrick said a bunch of stupid conspiracy shit. yeah like, this wasn't some "we recorded jim cornette laughing about calling a fan the n word in private" type deal. like this shit was on youtube and was basically the character kendrick used in every company but wwe. he was 'the wizard of odd' in tna because "oh boy, that brian kendrick sure is weird!" like, the kendrick and london shoot trailer has almost 50k views. like this wasn't a secret.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 2, 2022 23:56:35 GMT -5
Welcome to the internet where apologies are never accepted despite being demanded. Welcome to the internet where two separate groups of people get roped into one because you wanna paint people you don't like with the hypocrite brush and score cheap points on a pro wrestling forum.
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2022 23:58:30 GMT -5
I just don't understand how no one cared till he was showing up on AEW, and it wasn't really a secret that Kendrick said a bunch of stupid conspiracy shit. yeah like, this wasn't some "we recorded jim cornette laughing about calling a fan the n word in private" type deal. like this shit was on youtube and was basically the character kendrick used in every company but wwe. he was 'the wizard of odd' in tna because "oh boy, that brian kendrick sure is weird!" like, the kendrick and london shoot trailer has almost 50k views. like this wasn't a secret. So my question is, after it being a long time, him being in WWE for 5 years after, why does it matter now? Is it because WWE doesn't care? I actually wouldn't be stunned if he worked AEW in the future since he put out an apology and frankly it might have been weird for him to be on a show where MJF was getting a career moment.
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mattyy
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Post by mattyy on Feb 2, 2022 23:59:47 GMT -5
also what gets me, it seems like this shoot was wiped from the internet a while ago. someone didn't just stumble upon kendrick being an idiot a decade ago. they were sitting on the clip.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 3, 2022 0:00:03 GMT -5
I have a question about this...why were Kendricks comments not an issue for the last 5 years he was employed by WWE? It's a bit odd he leaves and it's an issue.. Like no one talks about the stuff AJ said, if he ever leaves will he get buried too? just wait until Sami leaves and this becomes an issue(even though right now the youtube comments are all "omg this is so funny! should totally be his new character!"). not to mention the two 1 + 2 previously mentioned aj styles clips. The Sami clip was stupid, but like... it's a whole lot of nothing tbh. He didn't say anything abhorrently offensive, it was tryhard humor at best, and unlike Kendrick, you can clearly tell this is a Sami Zayn in his like, early 20's if not younger, and I have not seen this as a pattern of his before or since at least ever documented or said.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Feb 3, 2022 0:00:53 GMT -5
Welcome to the internet where apologies are never accepted despite being demanded. No. Goodbye
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 3, 2022 0:01:12 GMT -5
This thread is flirting uncomfortably close with making a Holocaust denier somehow seem like a victim.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 3, 2022 0:01:59 GMT -5
It's hard to learn too much from a Twitter apology. We'll learn more about Brian from his actions and words going forward. I will keep an open mind. People can change but he has a long way to go.
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Feb 3, 2022 0:02:35 GMT -5
I mean shit Ronda Rousey has said a bunch of Sandy Hook conspiracy shit, no one care she said it?
I'm trying to figure out why there's a double standard.
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Mecca
Wade Wilson
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Post by Mecca on Feb 3, 2022 0:03:00 GMT -5
This thread is flirting uncomfortably close with making a Holocaust denier somehow seem like a victim. Oh no I'm saying if they probably should all have repercussions not just one.
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 3, 2022 0:04:10 GMT -5
I mean shit Ronda Rousey has said a bunch of Sandy Hook conspiracy shit, no one care she said it? I'm trying to figure out why there's a double standard. It's because WWE is completely shameless and just doesn't care. Look how long they took to fire people like Lars Sullivan, (f***ing) Gunner, Velveteen Dream, and Drake Wuertz. And their shit was widely known compared to others.
They weren't even specifically let go because they were racist goons, alleged pedophilia, or spreading QAnon garbage, but as part of a round of budget cuts.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 3, 2022 0:04:15 GMT -5
This thread is flirting uncomfortably close with making a Holocaust denier somehow seem like a victim. Oh no I'm saying if they probably should all have repercussions not just one. Sometimes things just happen in a weird way. Why did it take a comedian making jokes to take down Bill Cosby when so many people knew or should have known for years?
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Feb 3, 2022 0:05:17 GMT -5
Oh no I'm saying if they probably should all have repercussions not just one. Sometimes things just happen in a weird way. Why did it take a comedian making jokes to take down Bill Cosby when so many people knew or should have known for years? This is in terms to why the general public cared, WWE doesn't give two shits, they have to be dragged kicking and screaming into firing Drake Wuertz.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 3, 2022 0:05:26 GMT -5
Welcome to the internet where apologies are never accepted despite being demanded. I dont know if you intended for the burning irony of your statement to be matched with your Dave Chappelle profile picture but here we are lmfao
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