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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 28, 2022 9:13:39 GMT -5
Meltzer said this on the Observer Board - "It was a one time thing because Ronda requested it. Could he be back? Yes, but that's what the deal was for yesterday."
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 28, 2022 9:25:29 GMT -5
I used to go back and forth on how I felt about Kendrick and his apology.
Right now, anti-semitism is on the rise and shit like what this guy said helps push that.
So, f*** him. I hope that any dipshit in wrestling that does anything remotely anti-semitic gets shown the f***ing door from the industry.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Nov 28, 2022 9:25:58 GMT -5
Meltzer said this on the Observer Board - "It was a one time thing because Ronda requested it. Could he be back? Yes, but that's what the deal was for yesterday." Did he help train her? I know he worked with Eva Marie.
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Post by pinja on Nov 28, 2022 9:31:41 GMT -5
Meltzer said this on the Observer Board - "It was a one time thing because Ronda requested it. Could he be back? Yes, but that's what the deal was for yesterday." Did he help train her? I know he worked with Eva Marie. I would say he trained her. He trained her really good.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 28, 2022 10:41:04 GMT -5
Guess that’s why Shotzi broke out the sliced bread number 2.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Nov 28, 2022 11:23:49 GMT -5
hahahahahahaha
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Post by Legion on Nov 28, 2022 11:31:23 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about them possibly giving him a second chance.
On the one hand, what he said was so wrong but I can believe someone who got in to the business as young as he did could get sucked into that sort of insanity because I am doubting he has much real schooling. He did apologise, and as far as I know, he wasn't out being actively involved in any of this, he was just saying it which is a little better than say actively marching or promoting any of the ideas a lot.
However, on the other hand, he still said it, and it's hard to believe someone could just deprogram themselves when he said and appeared to believe that much.
Can there be a way back for someone after an apology and some time has passed, or are they forever black balled regardless of how much they may apologise?
I think it has to be contextual. Nash Carter and his picture for example, I'd say he can return tomorrow and likely should never have been released as it was clearly a joke, in bad taste, but a joke all the same. Velveteen Dream appears to genuinely be a pervert and no, there likely isnt a way back no matter how much he may apologise in the future.
Where does Kendrick and his now decade old rant fit? I honestly dont know.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 28, 2022 11:48:44 GMT -5
Meltzer said this on the Observer Board - "It was a one time thing because Ronda requested it. Could he be back? Yes, but that's what the deal was for yesterday." It reflects super badly on Ronda, who already has dipped into the "Conspiracies that reflect very badly on you as a person" well with the whole Sandy Hook shit, that she requested it, let alone that WWE approved it knowing it would get them negative press If it were me I would have said "No Ronda, I will not bring in the Holocaust denier as a favor to you", I don't care how mad it would make her, I don't care if it'd make her walk, shit ain't worth it.
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Post by Chris Hammers on Nov 28, 2022 11:51:03 GMT -5
I do wonder where all the drama and backlash was for this in 2010 when the shoot first came out. Highspots is still even selling it on their website. In fact, at the time the only drama from the interview was their Benoit takes.
Guys an idiot if they're his actual views, and surprisingly a bigger idiot if his "whacky character to sell shoot interview dvds" story is true.
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 28, 2022 12:28:15 GMT -5
Reckon they got mixed up and thought it was InfoWarGames?
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Post by chazraps on Nov 28, 2022 12:40:43 GMT -5
I do wonder where all the drama and backlash was for this in 2010 when the shoot first came out. Highspots is still even selling it on their website. Wrong shoot and no, they aren't.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 28, 2022 13:01:36 GMT -5
I do wonder where all the drama and backlash was for this in 2010 when the shoot first came out. Highspots is still even selling it on their website. In fact, at the time the only drama from the interview was their Benoit takes. Guys an idiot if they're his actual views, and surprisingly a bigger idiot if his "whacky character to sell shoot interview dvds" story is true. Truthfully, a lot of stuff that was said in earlier years in shoot interviews has flown under the radar for a variety of reasons. The Cornette and Kevin Nash ones tend to be exceptions where they got reposted to hell and back and became big talking point opinions for a long time, and there's obviously here-and-there clips like Iron Sheik losing his mind, but a lot of the videos didn't get nearly that kind of traction, and when you still had to buy a DVD outright for it, it was easy for a lot of stuff to never really get noticed. Similarly, the early '10s were just a time where you could get away with saying shit on the internet. The cultural changes between now and then are massive. An entirely different world. But then, a third layer; if someone says some insane bigot shit on a podcast right now, it will be all over every wrestling news site and drive a ton of clicks off of "former WWE tag team champion denies the holocaust" headlines because the clicks driven by controversial things on podcasts is now a big part of that business where in the past there was that big hole and none of this stuff really got posted. So similarly, for instance, Michael Elgin giving this long and 'very funny' story about how he peed on a woman without her consent after she asked him not to pee on hers didn't get anywhere near the level of scrutiny or backlash it should have because most people didn't watch f***ing Michael Elgin shoot videos you had to pay money for. People didn't know it was said and anyone who did didn't really have the loudness or care to push those words out there and make them spread until Kendrick was actually news-worthy, but I know I saw people saying he'd said stuff about the holocaust for years. It just never manifested materially because it got overlooked and underexamined.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2022 13:03:48 GMT -5
I don't know how I feel about them possibly giving him a second chance. On the one hand, what he said was so wrong but I can believe someone who got in to the business as young as he did could get sucked into that sort of insanity because I am doubting he has much real schooling. He did apologise, and as far as I know, he wasn't out being actively involved in any of this, he was just saying it which is a little better than say actively marching or promoting any of the ideas a lot. However, on the other hand, he still said it, and it's hard to believe someone could just deprogram themselves when he said and appeared to believe that much. Can there be a way back for someone after an apology and some time has passed, or are they forever black balled regardless of how much they may apologise? I think it has to be contextual. Nash Carter and his picture for example, I'd say he can return tomorrow and likely should never have been released as it was clearly a joke, in bad taste, but a joke all the same. Velveteen Dream appears to genuinely be a pervert and no, there likely isnt a way back no matter how much he may apologise in the future. Where does Kendrick and his now decade old rant fit? I honestly dont know. I think it's one of those situations where his talents don't outweigh the drama that would come from hiring him back full time. He's not worth the drama. Maybe other promotions would be willing to take the risk or give him the benefit of the doubt, but just looking at it purely from a business standpoint, it makes no sense.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 28, 2022 13:05:44 GMT -5
Guess that’s why Shotzi broke out the sliced bread number 2. She was going to break out the Hollycaust but Kendrick denied it.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 28, 2022 13:06:42 GMT -5
Of f***ing course Ronda requested him LOL
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Post by darbus alan on Nov 28, 2022 13:15:13 GMT -5
Meltzer said this on the Observer Board - "It was a one time thing because Ronda requested it. Could he be back? Yes, but that's what the deal was for yesterday." Of course she did. Conspiracy theorist birds of a feather stick together.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 28, 2022 13:18:25 GMT -5
Meltzer said this on the Observer Board - "It was a one time thing because Ronda requested it. Could he be back? Yes, but that's what the deal was for yesterday." Of course she did. Conspiracy theorist birds of a feather stick together. Probably more that he trained her.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Nov 28, 2022 15:07:08 GMT -5
Of course she did. Conspiracy theorist birds of a feather stick together. Probably more that he trained her. You know, sometimes, you don't have to defend, justify or explain everything shitty in WWE.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Nov 28, 2022 15:27:41 GMT -5
Oh my god of course she did dude, you can't write anything funnier than real life LMAO {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Though honestly I kinda wonder if Ronda's still even on the conspiracy wave after having a kid and just years of shit happening to her in general. I don't keep up with Ronda Rousey news and interviews but wearing a bright orange Every Child Matters shirt in Canada a few months ago (she was also the only person on the show that did this) was a FAR cry from batshit early aughts Ronda and a very far cry from denying Sandy Hook ever happened considering that people denying Residential Schools ever killed anyone is unfortunately very much a thing. I genuinely do wonder where she's at in regards to Thi Shit in 2022.
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 28, 2022 15:57:31 GMT -5
Probably more that he trained her. You know, sometimes, you don't have to defend, justify or explain everything shitty in WWE. Don’t feel like I do that, but feel free to block my posts or just comment on the posts themselves. Also, is saying that she probably asked because he trained her and not because of any shared conspiracies me defending WWE in some way? Just pointing out their connection.
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