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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 31, 2022 8:02:53 GMT -5
His 2021/2022 has been so much more entertaining than Edge's, and has had higher highs. I don’t know about that, Edge is putting out the best work of his career. Edge won the Rumble from the #1 spot. Had good TV matches against Orton and Uso. Main evented WrestleMania in a near-5 star match. Headlined another PPV with Roman in a great match. Then had a fun feud with Rollins with matches at Summerslam and the MSG Smackdown, culminating in a near-5 star Hell in a Cell match. Plus Edge cut killer promos all year long.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 31, 2022 8:07:51 GMT -5
Which AEW PPV do you think Christian is going to headline next? Does that matter? He headlined one. How many AEW wrestlers have headlined a major PPV? And Christian headlined what is currently the biggest drawing one of them all. He will more than likely continue to be on PPVs as well and used in storylines, as he is still on TV every week. He may go down the card in the future to wrestle more rising star acts to give them credible feuds and storylines, surely a feud where Jungle boy goes over is in the cards... but Christian has not been a midcarder so far in his run, that is what you insinuated, and this sounds like goalpost moving to me. He has gone above and beyond what has been asked of him at this stage of his career and what he came back from. Just looking at his match log, he hasn’t had a singles match in AEW in the last 5 months. Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing but thought that was a bit odd.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 31, 2022 8:08:30 GMT -5
His 2021/2022 has been so much more entertaining than Edge's, and has had higher highs. I don’t know about that, Edge is putting out the best work of his career. Edge won the Rumble from the #1 spot. Had good TV matches against Orton and Uso. Main evented WrestleMania in a near-5 star match. Headlined another PPV with Roman in a great match. Then had a fun feud with Rollins with matches at Summerslam and the MSG Smackdown, culminating in a near-5 star Hell in a Cell match. Plus Edge cut killer promos all year long. I don't know how to explain it, but frankly I've still been way more impressed with Christian's run. Not to take away from Edge's run, which has been a bigger highlight for WWE this last year among a lot of bullshit, I just think overall Christian has impressed the f*** out of me coming back and doing what he has, again, not taking away from Edge, just if I had to pick the run I've enjoyed more to this point, it's Christian's so far.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 31, 2022 8:10:32 GMT -5
Does that matter? He headlined one. How many AEW wrestlers have headlined a major PPV? And Christian headlined what is currently the biggest drawing one of them all. He will more than likely continue to be on PPVs as well and used in storylines, as he is still on TV every week. He may go down the card in the future to wrestle more rising star acts to give them credible feuds and storylines, surely a feud where Jungle boy goes over is in the cards... but Christian has not been a midcarder so far in his run, that is what you insinuated, and this sounds like goalpost moving to me. He has gone above and beyond what has been asked of him at this stage of his career and what he came back from. Just looking at his match log, he hasn’t had a singles match in AEW in the last 5 months. Not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing but thought that was a bit odd. Considering he was workhorsing it for awhile there, him laying back and helping Jurassic Express is probably a good thing. I really feel like he's costing Jungle Boy the belts and things will ramp back up for him. Their last match together was Christian trying to take the win himself and eating a Big Rig for it, that seed has been planted, he really wants to act like this tag title run and Express' rise is as much on him as it is them.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 31, 2022 8:12:35 GMT -5
I don’t know about that, Edge is putting out the best work of his career. Edge won the Rumble from the #1 spot. Had good TV matches against Orton and Uso. Main evented WrestleMania in a near-5 star match. Headlined another PPV with Roman in a great match. Then had a fun feud with Rollins with matches at Summerslam and the MSG Smackdown, culminating in a near-5 star Hell in a Cell match. Plus Edge cut killer promos all year long. I don't know how to explain it, but frankly I've still been way more impressed with Christian's run. Not to take away from Edge's run, which has been a bigger highlight for WWE this last year among a lot of bullshit, I just think overall Christian has impressed the f*** out of me coming back and doing what he has, again, not taking away from Edge, just if I had to pick the run I've enjoyed more to this point, it's Christian's so far. That kind of baffles me, honestly lol. And I love Christian. He’s seemed like the same technician in-ring, solid on the mic. Had a great two matches with Omega. But otherwise he’s just kind of there in that mentor role, not wrestling any singles matches, doing some solid work in tags. It’s great to see after his concussion issues cut his career short but I’m not sure how it can top what Edge just did.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 31, 2022 8:22:18 GMT -5
I don't know how to explain it, but frankly I've still been way more impressed with Christian's run. Not to take away from Edge's run, which has been a bigger highlight for WWE this last year among a lot of bullshit, I just think overall Christian has impressed the f*** out of me coming back and doing what he has, again, not taking away from Edge, just if I had to pick the run I've enjoyed more to this point, it's Christian's so far. That kind of baffles me, honestly lol. And I love Christian. He’s seemed like the same technician in-ring, solid on the mic. Had a great two matches with Omega. But otherwise he’s just kind of there in that mentor role, not wrestling any singles matches, doing some solid work in tags. It’s great to see after his concussion issues cut his career short but I’m not sure how it can top what Edge just did. It's preference I guess? I didn't say I even hated what Edge is doing, I like his run, just have liked Christian's more. He drug out a really good match with Matt Hardy in 2021, that alone deserves high praise lol, he also had a good Impact run alongside the AEW one. Great matches in singles against the likes of Josh Alexander, Ace Austin, Angelico, Sydal, Kaz, Hobbs, Matt Hardy, Omega, and more, and then great multi man matches insluding the six person street fight which was damn good itself. Edge has put on entertaining bangers, but I don't think it's insane to enjoy Christian's run more because it's been just as fun imo, he's put a good resume together. And only just now has taken what is only currently a one month break
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 31, 2022 9:39:37 GMT -5
Dude’s doing fine. I think it’s unrealistic to expect him to be a full-on main eventer at this point of his career both in terms of his own mileage and the talents currently in those positions doing as well as they are, but he’s still very good.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 31, 2022 9:53:09 GMT -5
I feel like Christian was earmarked to be the big veteran workhorse of the company but then both Bryan Danielson and CM Punk became available and have taken on that role. It's not a bad thing, but he's just one of the vets whose TV presence has been slightly diminished as a result of the way the roster's been legit flooded with talent since August 2021.
I have no doubt that when they're ready to kick the Christian/Jungle Boy thing into gear (probably for DoN), you'll start seeing Christian wrestling more on TV. I'm sure he's working out in-ring to keep himself ready. I think it's honestly for the best, Christian probably doesn't have that many matches left, better to conserve them and make it count.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 31, 2022 12:53:27 GMT -5
They tried to present him as a big deal when they announced his signing, and the reaction on here and elsewhere was as lukewarm as Todd Grisham commentary. Christian's ended up in a right spot, veteran midcard star getting over rising talent. Yeah. While the arguments with whether his debut was over hyped or not I think he has found his groove as a mentor to Jurassic Express. I think he has really helped both Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus find themselves a bit as performers and helped give them a bit of an edge. Adding him over Marko also gives JE more credibility... no offense to Marko
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Post by Andee9001 on Jan 31, 2022 13:28:47 GMT -5
At his age and body condition he is exactly where he needs to be and there is nothing wrong with that
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 31, 2022 13:44:13 GMT -5
Really, what was the point in signing him? He’s an upgrade from Marko Stunt, I’ll give you that, but buddying up with the Jurassic Express is really the best they’ve got for him? I’m not saying he should be champion, although that wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, but really a returning to action Christian should still be a big deal. If he was still in WWE a reunion with Edge would be obvious money, but then an actual long term feud with Christian, at this point in their careers with the history and legacy of the two - that’s Wrestlemania worthy. I dunno, he’ll be making good money and he doesn’t have to do much (if anything) but it’s still a waste. So teaming with one of these most popular acts in the company is a waste to you? He came in had a feud for the AEW championship. Had a run as Impact champion being Omega. Feuded with Adam Cole and the Young Bucks and won on PPV may I add. So he teaming with a team that going against top of the card guys and helping young talent. Thats the role that works with him. If he stayed with the WWE talk like there was a choice to be made. There was a reason why right after the rumble he was gone from WWE and he ended up in AEW. I'm sure he wanted to have his final run there but I bet WWE didn't see it the same way. Edge was also more into feuding with guys he never really worked with before. Like Roman, Seth, and ext. You noticed that Edge has been feuding with people he never had a feud with. It started with Orton who have a history but never really faced of0 in a legit feud, more so as MEers. Than it was Roman and the Usos stuff again non of them where here yet and established. Than Seth, and last was the Miz which was perfect way to setup the chance to team up with Beth at less once. All people he never really worked with or feuded with. The only thing Christian would been able to do was maybe a feud with the Usos. There really wouldn't be another Christian vs. Edge deal.
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Post by Kalmia on Jan 31, 2022 14:14:33 GMT -5
I admit that I find it strange that Christian has barely wrestled since dropping the Impact title but I think overall, he's been used well by AEW. As people have already said, he won a title from Kenny Omega. Let's not forget how huge that was. Now he's helping get a star of the future over, is being treated as a respected vet, and is probably going to have a fire program with Jungle Boy down the road. I don't see what more AEW should be doing with someone who's 48 years old.
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Post by clifford on Jan 31, 2022 15:14:18 GMT -5
The venn diagram of 'people who complain that AEW haven't used ex-WWE guys better' and 'people who complain that AEW don't push their own homegrown talent enough' is just one big circle.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 31, 2022 15:20:35 GMT -5
His 2021/2022 has been so much more entertaining than Edge's, and has had higher highs. I don’t know about that, Edge is putting out the best work of his career. Edge won the Rumble from the #1 spot. Had good TV matches against Orton and Uso. Main evented WrestleMania in a near-5 star match. Headlined another PPV with Roman in a great match. Then had a fun feud with Rollins with matches at Summerslam and the MSG Smackdown, culminating in a near-5 star Hell in a Cell match. Plus Edge cut killer promos all year long. This is not the best work of his career. His sitting on a stool "i have grit and i came back" promos are largely interchangable to me. Outside the Daniel Bryan stuff where he got to heel it up again, so much of it feels like it's just hitting the same "i came back and this is something you couldn't do" beats. Especially with him as a face considering he never got any sort of significant come-uppens for being such a nasty shit heel due to his career being cut short at a time when he was face. Kayfabe wise, he has no room to call out heels. 2006 Edge, 2008 Edge and 2000/2001 tag Edge were all better.
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Post by thehottag on Jan 31, 2022 15:22:25 GMT -5
Christian main-evented arguably the best PPV in company history & got a clean title win over Omega at a time nobody did. Whilst he might not be main-eventing right now, being part of one of most over acts in AEW is hardly a bad thing, either.
And in the end, you just know that he's going to turn heel on Jungle Boy, & it'll be fantastic when he does.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 31, 2022 15:23:03 GMT -5
I don't know how to explain it, but frankly I've still been way more impressed with Christian's run. Not to take away from Edge's run, which has been a bigger highlight for WWE this last year among a lot of bullshit, I just think overall Christian has impressed the f*** out of me coming back and doing what he has, again, not taking away from Edge, just if I had to pick the run I've enjoyed more to this point, it's Christian's so far. That kind of baffles me, honestly lol. And I love Christian. He’s seemed like the same technician in-ring, solid on the mic. Had a great two matches with Omega. But otherwise he’s just kind of there in that mentor role, not wrestling any singles matches, doing some solid work in tags. It’s great to see after his concussion issues cut his career short but I’m not sure how it can top what Edge just did. Edge hasn't done a promo as entertaining, memorable or quotable as calling Don Callis a "carny piece of shit."
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 31, 2022 15:35:04 GMT -5
I just wish they'd get him the hell away from Matt Hardy.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 31, 2022 16:09:47 GMT -5
I just wish they'd get him the hell away from Matt Hardy. That applies to anyone, really.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Jan 31, 2022 16:35:33 GMT -5
Which AEW PPV do you think Christian is going to headline next? Does that matter? He headlined one. How many AEW wrestlers have headlined a major PPV? And Christian headlined what is currently the biggest drawing one of them all. He will more than likely continue to be on PPVs as well and used in storylines, as he is still on TV every week. He may go down the card in the future to wrestle more rising star acts to give them credible feuds and storylines, surely a feud where Jungle boy goes over is in the cards... but Christian has not been a midcarder so far in his run, that is what you insinuated, and this sounds like goalpost moving to me. He has gone above and beyond what has been asked of him at this stage of his career and what he came back from. Sometimes there's just arguing for the sake of it. I said I think AEW see Christian as a midcarder, you said you think there's a good chance he'll be in the midcard going forward. So, we agree?
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Post by polarbearpete on Jan 31, 2022 16:36:52 GMT -5
I don’t know about that, Edge is putting out the best work of his career. Edge won the Rumble from the #1 spot. Had good TV matches against Orton and Uso. Main evented WrestleMania in a near-5 star match. Headlined another PPV with Roman in a great match. Then had a fun feud with Rollins with matches at Summerslam and the MSG Smackdown, culminating in a near-5 star Hell in a Cell match. Plus Edge cut killer promos all year long. This is not the best work of his career. His sitting on a stool "i have grit and i came back" promos are largely interchangable to me. Outside the Daniel Bryan stuff where he got to heel it up again, so much of it feels like it's just hitting the same "i came back and this is something you couldn't do" beats. Especially with him as a face considering he never got any sort of significant come-uppens for being such a nasty shit heel due to his career being cut short at a time when he was face. Kayfabe wise, he has no room to call out heels. 2006 Edge, 2008 Edge and 2000/2001 tag Edge were all better. Agree to disagree on Edge’s work. I think he’s a top 5 promo right now of those in major companies. And his in-ring work has been superb outside of the one too-long Orton match.
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