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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 31, 2022 7:43:50 GMT -5
Yeah, they blew it on Saturday. What a piss poor showcase of your roster.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 31, 2022 7:47:21 GMT -5
Yeah, they blew it on Saturday. What a piss poor showcase of your roster. It's especially sad because the Royal Rumble can often be a great opportunity for someone to have a standout performance, like Kane in 2001, but this was just... meh. Like, I'm sure I could scrounge up worse Royal Rumbles, but this was still one of the lamest ones in quite some time.
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Post by eJm on Jan 31, 2022 7:50:26 GMT -5
Yeah, they blew it on Saturday. What a piss poor showcase of your roster. I feel like people don’t understand enough, especially people in the company, how shows like this, ‘Mania, SummerSlam etc, are important because of the brands they have. More fans are going to watch those shows than any of the other monthly shows because of tradition and nostalgia so if those are bad, you’re not exactly going to be invested in watching Raw the next Monday or any of the shows after that. It’s why people still go on about Bianca at SummerSlam. More fans saw her choke against Becky in seconds than they did see her beating up Doudrop three times in a row so that’ll be their image of her. A goober who lost her title in seconds. A lot of people who don’t usually watch WWE watched the Royal Rumble and their impression was, as you said, it being a terrible showcase of the present roster. And if you don’t showcase your roster in a match type a lot of fans still get excited for regardless, why should they watch them the other 51 weeks of the year?
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 31, 2022 7:50:41 GMT -5
Top 5 Worst Men's Rumbles
1-2015 2-1999 3-2022 4-2009 5-2014
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 31, 2022 7:57:26 GMT -5
Top 5 Worst Men's Rumbles 1-2015 2-1999 3-2022 4-2009 5-2014 I love 2009, for obvious Orton reasons, so I'm curious why you rank it as one of the worst?
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 31, 2022 8:00:57 GMT -5
Top 5 Worst Men's Rumbles 1-2015 2-1999 3-2022 4-2009 5-2014 I love 2009, for obvious Orton reasons, so I'm curious why you rank it as one of the worst? The ring got too crowded around the midway point, and that slowed the match down. The only positive memory I have is the unexpected return of ROB...VAN..DAM!
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 31, 2022 12:36:51 GMT -5
He books like shit on a good day. He should have stayed home if he wasn't up to the task.I know we're all going armchair psychologhist again, but I don't think Vince would ever have that mindset. Working through the grief is a viable option to take, and fits Vince much more in my opinion. "the Show must go on" mentality at play. I mean this is the same feeb who thought the show should continue when one of his wrestlers just f***ing DIED in front of everyone. Vince seems he's only one step removed from rushing the ring kicking and screaming because he changed his mind in the middle of the match.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Jan 31, 2022 12:55:53 GMT -5
I love 2009, for obvious Orton reasons, so I'm curious why you rank it as one of the worst? The ring got too crowded around the midway point, and that slowed the match down. The only positive memory I have is the unexpected return of ROB...VAN..DAM! It’s funny because I hated the 2010 rumble for the opposite reason, the ring never really filled. I really enjoyed 2009 and 2014 (even though winner wasn’t ideal, the match itself was fun) For my own list I would swap those out with 2010 and 1995.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 31, 2022 13:01:41 GMT -5
There are two reasons why they depend on part timers.
One, they think the company should be just built around "the guy" meaning everyone else is sacrificed to them, and thus their own star power is diminished. So you have one prioritised star like Cena, Roman etc...who have already alienated half the audience, driving many away for good, and everyone else is just fodder.
Two, part timers are only seen relatively rarely, which makes them more appealing. We see too much of everyone else. They wrestle each other so many times, that it's impossible to make them stand out due to repetition of matches and oversaturation of talent and the product itself.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 31, 2022 13:50:26 GMT -5
There are two reasons why they depend on part timers. One, they think the company should be just built around "the guy" meaning everyone else is sacrificed to them, and thus their own star power is diminished. So you have one prioritised star like Cena, Roman etc...who have already alienated half the audience, driving many away for good, and everyone else is just fodder. Two, part timers are only seen relatively rarely, which makes them more appealing. We see too much of everyone else. They wrestle each other so many times, that it's impossible to make them stand out due to repetition of matches and oversaturation of talent and the product itself. WWE has always been mostly built around "the guy". Bruno, Hogan, Austin. But they had the attention span to still build a mid card around them. The problem is that these days "the guy" is not a wrestler, but the company. I mean if Roman was gone tomorrow they would just put someone else into his spot and carry on as of nothing changed.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 31, 2022 14:15:42 GMT -5
There are two reasons why they depend on part timers. One, they think the company should be just built around "the guy" meaning everyone else is sacrificed to them, and thus their own star power is diminished. So you have one prioritised star like Cena, Roman etc...who have already alienated half the audience, driving many away for good, and everyone else is just fodder. Two, part timers are only seen relatively rarely, which makes them more appealing. We see too much of everyone else. They wrestle each other so many times, that it's impossible to make them stand out due to repetition of matches and oversaturation of talent and the product itself. WWE has always been mostly built around "the guy". Bruno, Hogan, Austin. But they had the attention span to still build a mid card around them. The problem is that these days "the guy" is not a wrestler, but the company. I mean if Roman was gone tomorrow they would just put someone else into his spot and carry on as of nothing changed. Oh yeah they've already anointed Bron Breaker as the next Guy, and I wouldn't be surprised if they edge Roman out in favor of Bron in a couple years because he's cheaper.
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Post by chrom on Jan 31, 2022 14:45:04 GMT -5
The quarter earnings are Thursday, so expect some budget cuts soon
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 31, 2022 15:16:58 GMT -5
It'll reform when we see the formation of the Mighty Molly Bosstones Knock on wood No Mighty Morphing Bosstones?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2022 15:19:10 GMT -5
"It's Bosstones time!" - Michael Cole before listening to The Mighty Mighty Bosstones
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Post by john84 on Jan 31, 2022 15:31:41 GMT -5
I honestly would be more frustrated for the women than anything else I know I am. I am frustrated about the men's side of things but compared to the women they get a lot more attention at least (more talking about those not in title picture really)
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Post by john84 on Jan 31, 2022 15:35:43 GMT -5
There will be another mandatory Talent Show soon Omos: "For my talent I'm going to be really tall." Some of the noises he made whilst in the ring last night like he was doing a homage to Braun
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Post by mistery on Jan 31, 2022 15:36:02 GMT -5
I honestly would be more frustrated for the women than anything else I know I am. I am frustrated about the men's side of things but compared to the women they get a lot more attention at least (more talking about those not in title picture really) Yup. The women are basically down to like 10-15 minutes a week if they are lucky. On a three hour RAW. And it's sandwiched between recaps. That's definitely a side effect of the Johnny Ace and Bruce Pritchard power trip. Because Stephanie had mentioned before this whole creative shakeup, that WWE was aiming to give women the same amount of time the men get. It also doesn't help that with Bruce and Johnny in charge, there's virtually no chance of the women getting any time outside of when they are in the title picture or already heavily favored by the company.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 31, 2022 15:42:43 GMT -5
"It's Bosstones time!" - Michael Cole before listening to The Mighty Mighty Bosstones Holy shit this f***ing popped me goddam.
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Post by thehottag on Jan 31, 2022 16:21:50 GMT -5
The Royal Rumble is an hour long match, featuring 30 wrestlers. Think of how many storylines you could set up, or feuds could start/continue with just a single interaction?
The fact they have all that time to fill, all those wrestlers to use & still don't do anything with them, must be a clear indication to talent that the company doesn't care.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jan 31, 2022 16:24:19 GMT -5
I know we're all going armchair psychologhist again, but I don't think Vince would ever have that mindset. Working through the grief is a viable option to take, and fits Vince much more in my opinion. "the Show must go on" mentality at play. I mean this is the same feeb who thought the show should continue when one of his wrestlers just f***ing DIED in front of everyone. Vince seems he's only one step removed from rushing the ring kicking and screaming because he changed his mind in the middle of the match. You're not wrong about Owen, I wouldn't say the thought process during Over the Edge should be 100% applicable to here mind you. That time stopping the show really was the only reasonable option in my opinion, I agree.
I know Inoki once interrupted a match he hated, can't recall who it was with though. I swear Vince has came out during an intermission and shat on the crowd at one show, can't remember if it was a house show, a TV taping, or one of those newz rubbish.
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