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Post by Kalmia on Feb 2, 2022 22:09:02 GMT -5
Wardlow isn't going to turn until MJF is free and clear to have the angle with him. MJF isn't done with Punk yet, so it's just going to be teased. I hope they pull the trigger on that after the Punk stuff is done, although I do love Wardlow and Spears as a double act.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 2, 2022 22:10:05 GMT -5
The issue with the Wardlow thing for some is that it feels like the story has not progressed enough to justify how long it’s been?
Like they were teasing dissension back during the MJF vs. Cody feud, and it doesn’t feel like the story has progressed that much since then.
I feel like it’s been stretch out long enough, he needs to turn SOON!!
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2022 22:10:14 GMT -5
Didn't watch but given some of the responses here yeah, glad I didn't. I'll peep it this weekend probably. Just glad to know that my expectations have been lowered. I never like that "hey guys this is hype hype amazing omg" stuff anyway so this is good for me. Dont go by opinions here for how you judge something tbh. Like I loved the match and the finish, but I dont think people being weird about it should lower your bar or your experience, hope you like it anyway |
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 2, 2022 22:10:19 GMT -5
Wardlow ain't turning until MJF wins the belts...I'm convinced. If they're going to keep dragging it out just go full boar!
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Post by RKTaker on Feb 2, 2022 22:10:25 GMT -5
Didn't watch but given some of the responses here yeah, glad I didn't. I'll peep it this weekend probably. Just glad to know that my expectations have been lowered. I never like that "hey guys this is hype hype amazing omg" stuff anyway so this is good for me. the match is good though and honestly no matter who won and how it was gonna be divisive somehow |
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Feb 2, 2022 22:11:09 GMT -5
Didn't watch but given some of the responses here yeah, glad I didn't. I'll peep it this weekend probably. Just glad to know that my expectations have been lowered. I never like that "hey guys this is hype hype amazing omg" stuff anyway so this is good for me. The Bryan Danielson promo is a mustmustmust |
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Post by Blade on Feb 2, 2022 22:11:11 GMT -5
Honestly, MJF winning with the ring AGAIN is kind of lame after such a fresh, interesting match. I see where you'd think that, but MJF's whole shtick is pissing off the audience. What better way than to win the same old shit, after Punk got about twenty hope spots? Sure, that's fair, it just felt like a special match like this deserved a better ending than "MJF punches opponent with ring behind the ref's back and gets the win" for like the sixth or seventh time in the past twelve months. Honestly, I kinda wished they'd reversed the spots and done the much more clever choke-out spot as the real finish. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2022 22:11:16 GMT -5
The issue with the Wardlow thing for some is that it feels like the story has not progressed enough to justify how long it’s been? Like they were teasing dissension back during the MJF vs. Cody feud, and it doesn’t feel like the story has progressed that much since then. I feel like it’s been stretch out long enough, he needs to turn SOON!! It has escalated though? MJF constantly digging him, Spears stuff, the Punk match where MJF openly cost him a huge win, it's all clearly slowly been growing and simmering for Wardlow as a whole. |
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Feb 2, 2022 22:11:39 GMT -5
Too little too f***ing late! .it’s really not though If it doesn’t happen at Revolution, then it’s gone past when it should. But the turn happening at the PPV is the perfect place. |
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Post by chrom on Feb 2, 2022 22:11:44 GMT -5
The issue with the Wardlow thing for some is that it feels like the story has not progressed enough to justify how long it’s been? Like they were teasing dissension back during the MJF vs. Cody feud, and it doesn’t feel like the story has progressed that much since then. I feel like it’s been stretch out long enough, he needs to turn SOON!! Either finally piss or zip up your damn pants already |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2022 22:12:32 GMT -5
I see where you'd think that, but MJF's whole shtick is pissing off the audience. What better way than to win the same old shit, after Punk got about twenty hope spots? Sure, that's fair, it just felt like a special match like this deserved a better ending than "MJF punches opponent with ring behind the ref's back and gets the win" for like the sixth or seventh time in the past twelve months. Honestly, I kinda wished they'd reversed the spots and done the much more clever choke-out spot as the real finish. The ring is MJF's final out, and it's gonna backfire and when it does, I think it will be a big moment, for Wardlow and MJF alike. I like that MJF needed everything to beat Punk, and it almost wasnt enough |
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2022 22:13:02 GMT -5
It's also a huge mix of what people like, some people really dig old school 80s style where angles are drawn out and turns are hinted at for a long period of time before they happen..other people dig stuff like attitude where dude has an issue and turns within a show or 2.
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Post by RKTaker on Feb 2, 2022 22:13:08 GMT -5
The issue with the Wardlow thing for some is that it feels like the story has not progressed enough to justify how long it’s been? Like they were teasing dissension back during the MJF vs. Cody feud, and it doesn’t feel like the story has progressed that much since then. I feel like it’s been stretch out long enough, he needs to turn SOON!! this is what AEW does though remember when people thought page was never gonna beat onega? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2022 22:13:11 GMT -5
Didn't watch but given some of the responses here yeah, glad I didn't. I'll peep it this weekend probably. Just glad to know that my expectations have been lowered. I never like that "hey guys this is hype hype amazing omg" stuff anyway so this is good for me. The Bryan Danielson promo is a mustmustmust The Moxley/Bryan stuff's the only thing I actually went back and checked. All this other stuff I just results for. No matter what I always make sure I check out whatever they're doing weekly.
Didn't watch but given some of the responses here yeah, glad I didn't. I'll peep it this weekend probably. Just glad to know that my expectations have been lowered. I never like that "hey guys this is hype hype amazing omg" stuff anyway so this is good for me. Dont go by opinions here for how you judge something tbh. Like I loved the match and the finish, but I dont think people being weird about it should lower your bar or your experience, hope you like it anyway Didn't watch but given some of the responses here yeah, glad I didn't. I'll peep it this weekend probably. Just glad to know that my expectations have been lowered. I never like that "hey guys this is hype hype amazing omg" stuff anyway so this is good for me. the match is good though and honestly no matter who won and how it was gonna be divisive somehow When it comes to anything AEW I always lower expectations because people overhype the company so regardless of what people thought about the match, I was gonna always go in lesser than most who tune in. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2022 22:13:21 GMT -5
The issue with the Wardlow thing for some is that it feels like the story has not progressed enough to justify how long it’s been? Like they were teasing dissension back during the MJF vs. Cody feud, and it doesn’t feel like the story has progressed that much since then. I feel like it’s been stretch out long enough, he needs to turn SOON!! Either finally piss or zip up your damn pants already AEW does long form storytelling with stuff like this, like it's clearly coming, and it's coming soon, just dont know why people thought it'd be tonight specifically. |
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 2, 2022 22:13:26 GMT -5
The issue with the Wardlow thing for some is that it feels like the story has not progressed enough to justify how long it’s been? Like they were teasing dissension back during the MJF vs. Cody feud, and it doesn’t feel like the story has progressed that much since then. I feel like it’s been stretch out long enough, he needs to turn SOON!! It has escalated though? MJF constantly digging him, Spears stuff, the Punk match where MJF openly cost him a huge win, it's all clearly slowly been growing and simmering for Wardlow as a whole. I don’t see it, not enough for it to be dragged out for YEARS now. It feels like a story being dragged out for the sake of dragging it out, not because it NEEDS to be. |
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Post by Mecca on Feb 2, 2022 22:13:43 GMT -5
I see where you'd think that, but MJF's whole shtick is pissing off the audience. What better way than to win the same old shit, after Punk got about twenty hope spots? Sure, that's fair, it just felt like a special match like this deserved a better ending than "MJF punches opponent with ring behind the ref's back and gets the win" for like the sixth or seventh time in the past twelve months. Honestly, I kinda wished they'd reversed the spots and done the much more clever choke-out spot as the real finish. At the end of the day though it's still a TV match, as good as it was and they want people to buy their ppvs. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 2, 2022 22:13:54 GMT -5
The other thing about the Wardlow stuff, besides being provoked all the time, was that last week, he wasn’t exactly happy about powerbombing Punk after the beat down, nor was he exactly sprinting down to face Punk and hurling the ring at him this week. Commentary even mentioned the contract.
Like, I get people thinking it’s gone too long (I disagree but anyway) but it’s not even subtext. It’s the actual bonafied text of the story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2022 22:14:10 GMT -5
I’m not going to sit here and tell people their opinions are wrong, but sometimes it feels like we’re all watching different shows. Wardlow’s slow burn face turn is still very much happening. He didn’t seem especially thrilled at having to help MJF cheat to win that match. It’s mystifying to me that some people watched that and were like “yeah, Wardlow’s back to just being a heel lackey.” I don’t see any reason to rush the build, because when the payoff finally happens it’s going to be star making. I'm sick of waiting. This slow burn shit just pisses me off. All I can say is this is why CrashTV was a thing in the Russo Era, and I was no fan of that. Difference of opinion, I guess. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 2, 2022 22:14:41 GMT -5
The Bryan Danielson promo is a mustmustmust The Moxley/Bryan stuff's the only thing I actually went back and checked. All this other stuff I just saw reviews for. Dont go by opinions here for how you judge something tbh. Like I loved the match and the finish, but I dont think people being weird about it should lower your bar or your experience, hope you like it anyway the match is good though and honestly no matter who won and how it was gonna be divisive somehow When it comes to anything AEW I always lower expectations because people overhype the company so regardless of what people thought about the match, I was gonna always go in lesser than most who tune in. I mean... when AEW constantly delivers really good to great matches, it's easy to overhype it *shrug* but this was a classic in my eyes, one of the best TV matches they ever did, dont think the hype is out of whack for this one but you'll see for yourself |
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