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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2022 8:56:59 GMT -5
Jeez, that was a bit harsh for a face. “No wonder your parents gave you up for adoption” doesn’t scream face’s justifiable revenge here.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 12, 2022 8:58:42 GMT -5
Stat really said "you're a shitty person and I'm sure you were a shitty kid"
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Post by eJm on Feb 12, 2022 9:09:52 GMT -5
To me I'm not ignoring it. To me statlander is more of a traditional babyface what would prove their point in the ring instead of going for the verbal cheap shot. Agree to disagree Literally smashed her face amd knee with a chair. Somehow the baby face says something with convictions and she's the bad guy that makes no sense logic wise I’d see people’s point if Leyla was just being a bit of a brat and held the submission on Red Velvet for longer after the match but, like…she basically tried to end her career with the knee to the face using a chair. Sometimes you need to fight dirty a bit when someone does that, she should be a bit pissed. Would I have had her say that? No, but as someone else also said, she was using it as an excuse, a crutch to justify her behavior.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 12, 2022 9:17:49 GMT -5
I have no idea why people think babyfaces should have to be friendly goody two-shoes doing Dummy-Bears shit.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2022 9:22:17 GMT -5
I have no idea why people think babyfaces should have to be friendly goody two-shoes doing Dummy-Bears shit. There’s a wide gap between goody two shoes and telling someone that there’s a reason her parents gave her up for adoption. Just my opinion, though.
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Post by Facetious on Feb 12, 2022 9:47:40 GMT -5
I mean, I laughed, but it kinda felt out of character for Stat lol. Kingston and Punk could easily get away with that as faces though
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Post by holyshida on Feb 12, 2022 9:52:29 GMT -5
I loved it, Statlander best promo and it took their feud to the next level. People are going to be more invested in their match.
This isn't a hint of Statlander turning heel or a heel promo. Leyla has been the one acting like a bitch and attacking Statlander and Red Velvet.
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Post by sunnytaker on Feb 12, 2022 10:26:30 GMT -5
why doesn;t anyone talk about the struggles statlander faced? being cooped up in a spaceship, probably alone (unless the other andromedeans on the crew are hiding out somewhere in secret) for however many years/decades (depending on andromeda's tech level) trying to maintain her sanity all that time with nothing to go on except "there's a pale blue dot out there in another galaxy for me to find" worrying the whole time that she might miss the planet completely? or the ship breaks down between galaxies, a collision with an uncharted asteroid, flying through meteor swarms, riding the edge of an undiscovered micro black hole that shows up unexpectedly?
leyla didn;t even have to leave the planet.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 12, 2022 10:28:18 GMT -5
I have no idea why people think babyfaces should have to be friendly goody two-shoes doing Dummy-Bears shit. Because saying “you were adopted because you’re a shithead and your parents didn’t want you” when the subject was legit adopted is a deep cutting knife. It’s one thing for me to make my joke of “I was such an ooops baby my parents gave me away” but if you make light of me being adopted, I’m gonna either rip your f***ing throat out or verbally dismantle you so badly I’ll never be allowed on this board again. It’s not something I wanna hear from a babyface who I genuinely really like.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 12, 2022 10:30:48 GMT -5
Some fans these days really would not have like Steve Austin or Babyface Rock back in the day apparently.
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Post by eJm on Feb 12, 2022 10:34:56 GMT -5
For as much as I get what people are saying and understand their position, it’s harder for me to feel sympathy for someone’s struggles in kayfabe when, and this sort of needs to be said again, she smacked her back with a chair and used her hip to try and crush her face with said chair.
Like, it’s hard for me to say “Wow, Kris went way too far, there!” when the other person tried to break her nose and practically the rest of her face and then tried to bring up the subject for sympathy.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 12, 2022 10:38:37 GMT -5
I have no idea why people think babyfaces should have to be friendly goody two-shoes doing Dummy-Bears shit. Because saying “you were adopted because you’re a shithead and your parents didn’t want you” when the subject was legit adopted is a deep cutting knife. It’s one thing for me to make my joke of “I was such an ooops baby my parents gave me away” but if you make light of me being adopted, I’m gonna either rip your f***ing throat out or verbally dismantle you so badly I’ll never be allowed on this board again. It’s not something I wanna hear from a babyface who I genuinely really like. What she said was if she was like this as a kid, she could see it. Still messed up, but literally only makes sense if she started out as a little sadist, so, significantly less f***ed up.
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 12, 2022 10:48:22 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with it. I've been in a situation before and just said something so out of line to a bully to cross that line and they never bothered me again.
I did get Bella vibes with the insult with the I hope you died in the womb promo..
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2022 10:49:30 GMT -5
Because saying “you were adopted because you’re a shithead and your parents didn’t want you” when the subject was legit adopted is a deep cutting knife. It’s one thing for me to make my joke of “I was such an ooops baby my parents gave me away” but if you make light of me being adopted, I’m gonna either rip your f***ing throat out or verbally dismantle you so badly I’ll never be allowed on this board again. It’s not something I wanna hear from a babyface who I genuinely really like. What she said was if she was like this as a kid, she could see it. Still messed up, but literally only makes sense if she started out as a little sadist, so, significantly less f***ed up. The implication from it was that if you were adopted, it’s probably because you were a bad kid. Not very face-like.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2022 10:51:48 GMT -5
Some fans these days really would not have like Steve Austin or Babyface Rock back in the day apparently. Different times, a lot of what they said would not fly these days. They were also more anti-heroes than actual babyfaces. Also, did they say stuff on subjects like adoption? I suppose it’s possible though I can’t remember it offhand.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Feb 12, 2022 10:55:40 GMT -5
I loved it. It was definitely her best promo and gave her more of an edge. And really, in storyline, Leyla deserves it for the shit she’s done to her. There is no reason for Kris to play nice with her and be sympathetic to Leyla’s past hardships. If I got beat up all the time by a guy who was an orphan and was adopted, that doesn’t mean they are in the right.
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Post by eJm on Feb 12, 2022 10:58:41 GMT -5
I mean, Austin’s response to Brian Pillman antagonizing him was to go to his house and try to kill him with a gun so probably not the best comparison…
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 12, 2022 11:01:31 GMT -5
I mean, Austin’s response to Brian Pillman antagonizing him was to go to his house and try to kill him with a gun so probably not the best comparison… Point is, being a babyface doesn’t have to mean being squeaky clean or “playing nice” all the time.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2022 11:04:54 GMT -5
I loved it. It was definitely her best promo and gave her more of an edge. And really, in storyline, Leyla deserves it for the shit she’s done to her. There is no reason for Kris to play nice with her and be sympathetic to Leyla’s past hardships. If I got beat up all the time by a guy who was an orphan and was adopted, that doesn’t mean they are in the right. You wouldn’t have to show her sympathy or think she was in the right to just not make that particular dig at her. There’s a middle ground there.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Feb 12, 2022 11:07:10 GMT -5
What she said was if she was like this as a kid, she could see it. Still messed up, but literally only makes sense if she started out as a little sadist, so, significantly less f***ed up. The implication from it was that if you were adopted, it’s probably because you were a bad kid. Not very face-like. I don’t think she meant that if anyone was adopted it was because they were bad kids, but just Leyla herself. To Kris, Leyla is a horrible bitch, so to her, she must have been a bad kid. It’s really Kris throwing it back in Leyla’s face, who is the heel trying to invoke personal hardships for sympathy.
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