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Post by asuka007 on Jan 24, 2023 12:24:39 GMT -5
for clarification, I mean nxt. Not anywhere else Well, Shayna was fine for the longest time, but yeah, just talking NXT, gotcha. Shotzi was in NXT and she is LGBTQ as well.
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Post by avenger on Jan 24, 2023 13:44:29 GMT -5
Well, Shayna was fine for the longest time, but yeah, just talking NXT, gotcha. Shotzi was in NXT and she is LGBTQ as well. Tegan Nox too.
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Post by stevescorpio on Jan 24, 2023 15:16:14 GMT -5
I feel for the person outed since they didn't ask for this. My sister is an out lesbian. Many of us knew for a while but left it up to her to tell us. She came out a few years ago, and we have all treated her with respect. It is not right to out someone, and I hope Quincy won't be with WWE for much longer.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 24, 2023 15:28:54 GMT -5
Shotzi was in NXT and she is LGBTQ as well. Tegan Nox too. Also Doudrop.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fingers on Jan 24, 2023 15:33:27 GMT -5
It's been too long since someone got fired for some Man Mountain Rock backstage creeper with a camera type shit.
Them Mountain Rock
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Post by Display Name on Jan 24, 2023 16:00:17 GMT -5
So I didn’t see the latest comments this shithead made. Was he talking about a certain Aussie? Because if that’s the one, I don’t think she’s really been trying to keep it a secret lately.
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Post by avenger on Jan 24, 2023 16:24:39 GMT -5
So I didn’t see the latest comments this shithead made. Was he talking about a certain Aussie? Because if that’s the one, I don’t think she’s really been trying to keep it a secret lately. Dont. Speculating on people's sexual orientation when they haven't commented on it themselves, is a spectacularly shitty thing to do.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 25, 2023 9:48:01 GMT -5
also not to throw oil on any flames cause I’m quite a big fan of everyone in this thread but as someone who is lgbtq+ it really is confusing and exhausting that every time we seem to get someone that can push things forward in not only a positive way but inventive way that sings true to being lgbtq+ itself, insane shit happens that’s not to take away from those who aren’t who espew crazy shit too (hi ronda) but it really sucks that seemingly as soon as things are going great everything goes up in a dumpster fire Kidd Bandit, Max the Impaler, Nyla Rose, VENY, Effy, Sonny Kiss, Sonya Deville, Leyla Hirsch, Anthony Bowens, Shayna Baszler, Diamante and Kiera Hogan, etc. There are a lot of open LGBTQ+ wrestlers who have not, to my knowledge, been connected to skeeviness. I get that people like Quincy, Jake Atlas, and Velveteen Dream have let people down, but they remain in the minority of what has been an explosion of queer talent in wrestling in recent years. Kid Bandit finds themselves in controversy every now and then. Nothing super egregious just more out of naivety with getting themselves into dumb (not bad) arguments/situations. But it feels like there are some wrestlers who feel like they become gatekeepers when they get a following. There are stories about Dark Shiek doing this with trans wrestlers. There are also stories of it for several wrestlers doing it for women, black, and latin wrestlers especially on the indies
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Post by Legion on Jan 25, 2023 10:11:44 GMT -5
I found out who it was by chance. and yeah what a scummy nice Quincy. At least, I saw on Twitter from somebody who regularly attends NXT that it was already well known by people who attend the shows and it wasn't like they tried to keep it a secret. They were actually surprised it wasn't common knowledge already, but still its really awful of Quincy to be leaking people's business to random fans in a group chat. Not that it makes it any better, as it isn't Quincy's business, but I suppose it is always possible that Quincy didnt know it was a secret, if the above is the case? I dunno, probably not, it would depend on what Quincy was writing in whatever Twitter groups, but younger proudly out people have a very different view on how sensitive others can be about that, it may not have necessarily been malicious. Though still, I revert back to what I said a few pages back - clearly not worth the issues, fire, and hire someone less messy.
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Post by Display Name on Jan 25, 2023 14:34:29 GMT -5
So I didn’t see the latest comments this shithead made. Was he talking about a certain Aussie? Because if that’s the one, I don’t think she’s really been trying to keep it a secret lately. Dont. Speculating on people's sexual orientation when they haven't commented on it themselves, is a spectacularly shitty thing to do. I didn’t say this person needed to be outed, all I was saying is that if you follow their social media, it’s no secret, at all. They’re just living their life and showing off their sweetie. Not everyone wants a big coming out party.
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Post by salz4life on Jan 25, 2023 16:11:10 GMT -5
Outing someone is just the worst. I don't care if it's an "open secret" or not. If true (which I assume it is), the person is a scumbag for that.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 26, 2023 0:34:38 GMT -5
Outing someone is just the worst. I don't care if it's an "open secret" or not. If true (which I assume it is), the person is a scumbag for that. Yeah, like, everyone knows who Shayna's girlfriend is, but they're not open about it so noone says it.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jan 26, 2023 1:33:30 GMT -5
I will say though that the frequency with which higher profile queer wrestlers turn out to be scumbags is an absolute misery and a problem that absolustely plays nasty and unhelpful and I would like it if they stopped. There's a lot of them who have not run afoul of any accusations or slime behavior, and that's great, but every time one of them with a WWE contract pulls something sleazy it's going to get more coverage to it than an indie or Japanese wrestler by default. That's coverage and perception during a time where it's just fuel for the bigots every time they get caught doing creep shit. I'm glad that the business is now more accepting of openly queer wrestlers, but it's sort of like that Wrestle Queerdom show from last year where it was just a clueless internet idiot scummily f***ing up their first indie show, something that happens constantly, but which ended up attracting more attention and 'reasons to use slurs' because of who was organizing it. There's a scrutiny and a double standard that it feels is still years away from being dropped because this kind of stuff plays into prejudices and ideas right now so hardcore in their revival as public, 'acceptable' rhetoric. Anyway f*** Quincy. Yeah I mean, I definitely agree with this. As a queer man, it is frustrating seeing people who could be trailblazers being shitheads. That said, I also think its necessary to acknowledge that not all queer people are good people, and it follows that not all queer wrestlers will be good people. Especially since, unfortunately, pro wrestlers kind of have a higher likelyhood of being shtitheads than the average population lmao. And I don't want to let bigots off the hook here because like, bigots will hate queer people whether they have examples of queer people being shitheads or not. Like, would I like every queer wrestler to be a good role model? Yes definitely. (Hell, I'd like every wrestler in general to be). Is it realistic to expect that? Not really. There's nothing we can really do as a queer community to prevent this really. Other than ostracize the shitheads when they reveal themselves and make it clear that we are not that.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jan 26, 2023 1:48:36 GMT -5
Re: Quincy, my read here is that they are an absolutely desperately insecure person who is deeply addicted to the approval of others. There is no way a person who doesn't have insecurities would be this desperate for attention from fans. I don't want to diagnose, but I wonder if they're neurodiverse and suffer from Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria?
I say this as a ND person who did some awful shit a decade ago because of desperation for attention and approval. And still sometimes f***s up a little bit because of it. Quincy's behavior does not strike me as mentally healthy behavior is what I'm saying I guess.
Not that that lets them off the hook. They are an adult who should know better. I'm just interested in the mindset.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jan 26, 2023 2:16:21 GMT -5
Re: Quincy, my read here is that they are an absolutely desperately insecure person who is deeply addicted to the approval of others. There is no way a person who doesn't have insecurities would be this desperate for attention from fans. I don't want to diagnose, but I wonder if they're neurodiverse and suffer from Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria? I say this as a ND person who did some awful shit a decade ago because of desperation for attention and approval. And still sometimes f***s up a little bit because of it. Quincy's behavior does not strike me as mentally healthy behavior is what I'm saying I guess. Not that that lets them off the hook. They are an adult who should know better. I'm just interested in the mindset. I mean, that could be a possibility but I think social media has fried people's brains and we know how toxic stan Twitter is.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 26, 2023 3:06:15 GMT -5
Outing someone is just the worst. I don't care if it's an "open secret" or not. If true (which I assume it is), the person is a scumbag for that. Yeah, like, everyone knows who Shayna's girlfriend is, but they're not open about it so noone says it. If a wrestler posts a picture of themself examining someone of the same gender's tonsils with their tongue, and they aren't publicly out, you comment 'Wow you and your roommate are so close' and then respectfully go on your f***ing way.
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Post by schma on Jan 26, 2023 4:44:42 GMT -5
Shit, I had figured this guy was fired after last month. I guess I should have known better. This is damned low.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 26, 2023 4:52:08 GMT -5
Shit, I had figured this guy was fired after last month. I guess I should have known better. This is damned low. Like, I'd have at least suspended him the moment the whole peeping accusations came out to at least investigate that stuff. But then for some reason, the Performance Centre has to be pushed to actually do anything to anyone working there (Demott, Wuertz, Dream etc).
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Post by theghost on Jan 26, 2023 14:27:40 GMT -5
Shit, I had figured this guy was fired after last month. I guess I should have known better. This is damned low. Like, I'd have at least suspended him the moment the whole peeping accusations came out to at least investigate that stuff. But then for some reason, the Performance Centre has to be pushed to actually do anything to anyone working there (Demott, Wuertz, Dream etc). Maybe it's just the cynic in me, but I wonder if WWE is worried about potential PR blowback from firing Quincy. Despite how they've acted, there could still be groups that would raise hell in WWE for firing someone like that. Not saying it's so, just a gut feeling on my part.
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Post by schma on Jan 26, 2023 14:36:24 GMT -5
Like, I'd have at least suspended him the moment the whole peeping accusations came out to at least investigate that stuff. But then for some reason, the Performance Centre has to be pushed to actually do anything to anyone working there (Demott, Wuertz, Dream etc). Maybe it's just the cynic in me, but I wonder if WWE is worried about potential PR blowback from firing Quincy. Despite how they've acted, there could still be groups that would raise hell in WWE for firing someone like that. Not saying it's so, just a gut feeling on my part. While I can see that, I think there's enough receipts that they could squash that. It might be messy for a short period but this is one time where WWE would actually have the moral high ground.
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