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Post by Glitch on Apr 5, 2022 17:03:30 GMT -5
After Wrestlemania having this number this weekend, people in some FB groups I'm in started grumbling if this was possible for AEW. With massive advertisement and a strong buildup, could AEW do this? Their position is different from wwe's, but at the same time nobody thought the Elite could pull off 11,000 for All In.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 5, 2022 17:04:35 GMT -5
I think they possibly could. But WWE papers those shows to this day and at the peak of the Attitude Era they only did 60,000 odd once.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Apr 5, 2022 17:08:08 GMT -5
It’s hard to say.
I’m sure there are enough AEW hardcore fans that would travel to Jacksonville for a major stadium show. Given the right build and matchup. So maybe. Like maybe Punk vs Danielson or Punk vs Omega. There has got to be a lot of hardcore wrestling fans, more than 70,000 who would pay and travel to see those matches.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Apr 5, 2022 17:12:45 GMT -5
My gut says no. But I think the best bet to get close would be a multi promotional mega card with a crap load of big matches that’d be built for months/a year.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 5, 2022 17:13:25 GMT -5
After Wrestlemania having this number this weekend, people in some FB groups I'm in started grumbling if this was possible for AEW. With massive advertisement and a strong buildup, could AEW do this? Their position is different from wwe's, but at the same time nobody thought the Elite could pull off 11,000 for All In. Yeah but you're talking about six All In's, or 3.5 Arthur Ashe's. It's just an enormous leap from even the top end of what they're doing now. Basically, if Tony felt even remotely that they could, they would.
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Post by AEW19 on Apr 5, 2022 17:18:06 GMT -5
It would honestly take another 10-15 years. Nothing wrong with that, just gives you a target to work towards.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2022 17:20:30 GMT -5
Probably not. Hell WWE wanted 100k on two nights for wrestlemania and didn't come close despite throwing everything at the wall. With the right card, in the right location, at the right time of year, with enough stuff around the show to justify international fans to fly in on mass, maybe 30-40k, on a good Wrestle Kingdom level? But 70k at this point feels too big an ask.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 5, 2022 17:26:27 GMT -5
Probably not. Very few companies have ever done that, especially in the modern era. Could they do 30K or even 40K? I think so with the right card. I'm especially curious if they did a European supershow.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 5, 2022 17:28:28 GMT -5
Don't see a chance in hell they could honestly.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 5, 2022 17:41:28 GMT -5
I mean it wasn't even possible for WWE, that attendance wasn't 70,000 according to peeps like Meltzer it was more like 55K or something each night, but WWE always inflates the numbers AEW's done 20K, I think they could potentially fill a football stadium's seats pretty well if they ever wanted to try a show like that, they need more time to grow I think before they get to 50K, but if you asked me if they could do a 30K event? Especially with the right card? I think it's doable...
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 5, 2022 17:56:27 GMT -5
I think they could pull off around 40K or so with the right card. Maybe over time they’ll build up and try some bigger stadiums.
Part of the hype and promotion for such an event could be, apart from the card, just the idea of them filling the stadium and selling that many seats (similar to part of All In’s promotion being the bet they couldn’t do 10K).
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 5, 2022 18:00:08 GMT -5
That's like...Wrestlemania 17 attendance. Wrestling just isn't that big anymore.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Apr 5, 2022 18:03:02 GMT -5
Absolutely not. Not right now. I say that as an AEW fan. To most people out there (seriously, most) WWE 'is' wrestling in the sense that UFC 'is' MMA.
Theres probably even a good number of people who just bought tickets to Wrestlemania at the last minute to get out of the house and see what 'WWE' is like in person. AEW doesnt have nowhere near that amount of outsider brand recognition yet.
I hope they do at some point though. Right now, I see their cap being around the 35k mark and im not sure what would drive that unless they market a show for a year saying that is their attendance goal, but then yiu run the risk of that failing and AEW looking like big ol' dummies.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 5, 2022 18:03:05 GMT -5
It would take a stacked card, an impeccable build and a main event which was absolutely molten to get even half of that in a stadium. And as stated before, thats not a knock on AEW. They have only been in existance for 3 years, it will probably take quite a lot more for the company to get to that level, if they can.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 5, 2022 18:04:54 GMT -5
Yeah like waaaay down the line I could see it, but stadiums for wrestling need a lot of time to build a brand up for.
Semi related, but I hope for one of their PPVs or Grand Slam maybe that they make the glitz and glamor show like Wrestlemania. I love AEW's big four but I think there should be one that's got that spectacle vibe even if it isn't necessarily above the others since they want to keep the big four pretty equal.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 5, 2022 18:14:59 GMT -5
I think some people are over-estimating how hot wrestling is, both today and just generally throughout history.
70,000 is more than Hogan/Rock in Toronto, Hogan/Goldberg at the Georgia Dome, every attitude era show, every WCW/NWA show, every Wrestle Kingdom or Japanese wrestling show ever, every show in Mexican wrestling history, more than each individual night of Wrestlemania this year and not far off Hogan/Andre (78,000 is supposedly the legit number).
The only non-Wrestlemania shows to ever draw 70,000 or more are Summerslam in Wembley Stadium and Collision in Korea. The latter of which didn't even sell tickets. The government basically forced people to attend.
WWE doing a major overseas PPV could probably do it. Super Showdown in Australia a couple years ago did 65,000 and one in the UK could probably top that. Other than that the absolute peak for a non-Wrestlemania show right now is probably 40-50,000. Summerslam last year with one of the biggest main events you could possibly do in wrestling today did a little over 50,000. It took a hit since the pandemic but NJPW was really hot throughout the Tanahashi/Okada eras and even those Wrestle Kingdoms usually "only" had around 25-40,000.
The G1 supercard in 2019 didn't sell out MSG. If they did a much bigger version of that though, a huge AEW/NJPW/ROH/Impact supercard in a stadium, with Punk/Danielson/Jericho/Sting/Moxley/Omega/Bucks/Okada/Naito/Tanahashi/White/Ibushi/Ospreay all on the card in big matches and hyped it to the moon and back for 6-12 months I could see them selling 30,000, maybe even close to 40,000 tickets.
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Post by holyshida on Apr 5, 2022 18:30:21 GMT -5
AEWs first UK show could
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 5, 2022 18:30:46 GMT -5
I mean it wasn't even possible for WWE, that attendance wasn't 70,000 according to peeps like Meltzer it was more like 55K or something each night, but WWE always inflates the numbers AEW's done 20K, I think they could potentially fill a football stadium's seats pretty well if they ever wanted to try a show like that, they need more time to grow I think before they get to 50K, but if you asked me if they could do a 30K event? Especially with the right card? I think it's doable... 65k each night, as per WrestleTix.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2022 18:34:50 GMT -5
No it couldn't. I'd aim for 10k (New Japan did 6k, WWE has obviously done more) but you aren't going to get US fans flying over and outside the wrestling nerd bubble (do you like my membership pin?), it has no mainstream penetration.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 5, 2022 18:37:57 GMT -5
I mean it wasn't even possible for WWE, that attendance wasn't 70,000 according to peeps like Meltzer it was more like 55K or something each night, but WWE always inflates the numbers AEW's done 20K, I think they could potentially fill a football stadium's seats pretty well if they ever wanted to try a show like that, they need more time to grow I think before they get to 50K, but if you asked me if they could do a 30K event? Especially with the right card? I think it's doable... 65k each night, as per WrestleTix. Still wasn't 77K like they claimed Even still my point stands, I think AEW could fill a Jacksonville stadium pretty decently, could probably get a 30K gate with the right card or even a big crossover event with New Japan, but they're still very new, and people are still like... discovering them, so not just yet, probably not for awhile, but they can get a big crowd already which is promising.
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