Velveteen Dream in WWE

[Feyrhausen]

May 9, 2022 15:25:38 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

May 9, 2022 12:50:25 GMT -5 GodzillaIsMyMonster said:

Again I ask...

Whatever came of the allegations?

Like... is he a POS? Or not?

Does something need to "come" of an allegation? Like I don't know what you're looking for here.

He probably thinks this was Brooke Hogans fault as well.

[GodzillaIsMyMonster]

May 9, 2022 15:25:38 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

May 9, 2022 12:50:25 GMT -5 GodzillaIsMyMonster said:

Again I ask...

Whatever came of the allegations?

Like... is he a POS? Or not?

Does something need to "come" of an allegation? Like I don't know what you're looking for here.

I mean... yes?

Just because someone is accused of doing something, doesn't actually mean they did the thing.

As someone who has both been falsely acussed and charged and also studied law, I was wondering if there was more.



Like... I don't understand your question.

[Final Countdown Jones]

May 9, 2022 15:38:02 GMT -5 GodzillaIsMyMonster said:

May 9, 2022 15:25:38 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Does something need to "come" of an allegation? Like I don't know what you're looking for here.

I mean... yes?

Just because someone is accused of doing something, doesn't actually mean they did the thing.

As someone who has both been falsely acussed and charged and also studied law, I was wondering if there was more.



Like... I don't understand your question.

Well what is "come of" here? Is it specifically him going to jail or copping to what he did? Because the implication of we're 'assuming' because nothing "came of" it is a very slippery slope. If you've studied law then maybe you've also seen the statistics on how underreported sex crimes often are. What we do know is that WWE claimed they did an investigation, Josh Fuller claims WWE never contacted him in that course of that investigation, and eventually WWE released Dream for unspecified reasons and 'budget cuts'.

Just because someone is accused of doing something might not mean they did the thing, but that doesn't stop people from looking at the evidence put forward and coming to their own conclusions about what happened.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

I will say that it shocks me they never tried with Dream when he was at his hottest when no one knew nothing, but they tried to make Lars Sullivan work on the main roster, twice, WITH his bullshit ever present and honestly seemingly getting worse, both resounding failures too.

I GET why, because "big", but even then... yeesh.

[Cyno]

He was good at the character work but not that good in the ring. Trips also viewed him as something of a pet project. Probably why he never got a chance to get exposed on Raw or Smackdown.

Considering who Patrick Clark turned out to be, I'd say that ended up for the best.

[facethatrunstheplace]

To everyone that responded to my post, he could've been hacked like he has been in the past. And he wouldn't be the first wrestler to be hacked. We also must remember that Adam Cole was hacked, and screenshots of his messages were leaked. These messages included conversations with Toni Storm that referenced an affair that they had. However, Brit Baker later said that they were actually messages to her that were photoshopped to look like they were messages to Toni Storm. So if someone is capable of doing something like that, it's not hard to believe that they could be capable of manipulating the messages that Velveteen Dream allegedly sent.

www.ringsidenews.com/2018/08/28/velveteen-dream-gets-twitter-hacked-personal-phone-number-released/

www.ringsidenews.com/2018/08/27/adam-coles-girlfriend-britt-baker-comments-alleged-released-dms-toni-storm/

[stoptheclocks]

"Patrick Clark Jr. (born August 19, 1995) is an American professional wrestler and alleged child predator. He is best known for his time in WWE where he performed under the ring name Velveteen Dream."

While I guess not wholly inaccurate... that is a brutal way for your Wikipedia to start.

I'm not sure what the right outcome is. The messages I saw definitely didn't look good, but the punishment is about as big and serious as it gets ('life ruined and branded a child predator forever'). Not sure that sits right with me either.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Think the only matches he really ever had that were worth seeing, not counting the North American title ladder match, are the Black and Riddle ones.

[kingoftheindies]

Taking out the allegations, even when Dream was at his hottest as a performer the word out of NXT was they felt Dream was too immature to get called up to the main roster so it seems like the feeling among many was that he would have flamed out

[Nosnorb]

Dude could have been a Once in a Lifetime talent. Instead, that talent was wasted and turns out he was a Nonce in a Lifetime.