Rate the AEW Dynamite!: 5/11/2022

[Gremlin]

8. I would have rated it a 10 but I had to deduct a point for each rung that Darby Allin was down from the top of the ladder.

[r.]

May 11, 2022 21:51:06 GMT -5 Tom Selleck said:

May 11, 2022 21:35:31 GMT -5 r. said:

Report it as I did. The mod ban is the one cutter no one kicks out of, avoid avoid avoid.

Wasn't trying to start anything. Just stating my opinion. I hope I don't get banned for that. I've been here a long long time.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough before. Stop.

[The Ichi]

Strong 9. Great mix of matches, promos and story advancement.

[Deleted]

Going with a 9. Storm/Hayter was great, Cole/Dax and Jungle Boy/Stroke Daddy were both very good, the main event was a ridiculous spotfest, and the MJF/Wardlow segment was fantastic on multiple levels. Punk/Silver was fun for the time it got and the subsequent Punk/Hangman segment somehow made me even more hyped for that match. And of course the (unofficial?) formation of Hookhausen coupled with Tony Nese getting a win on Dynamite. I would've liked to see more presence from Thunder Rosa beyond a hype video for the Serena match but otherwise, a very good show.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 11, 2022 21:51:06 GMT -5 Tom Selleck said:

May 11, 2022 21:35:31 GMT -5 r. said:

Report it as I did. The mod ban is the one cutter no one kicks out of, avoid avoid avoid.

Wasn't trying to start anything. Just stating my opinion. I hope I don't get banned for that. I've been here a long long time.

This isn't opinion, you are putting words in a widow's mouth and thinking AEW isn't in constant discussion with her over how the Tournament goes

What happened to Owen was a tragedy, it sucked. High spots in matches don't immediately connect to Owen's death, Owen WAS a high flyer, he was one of the earliest high flyers ever, and he died in a silly gimmick that was the farthest from hardcore ever. 

A highspot didn't kill Owen Hart, a Highspot off a ladder is not distasteful to Owen Hart. An accident on a stunt that never should have happened when he was being brought down on a rafter line killed Owen Hart. It's not the same, and when people act like they know what Martha Hart is thinking, it's more distasteful than anything Darby or Jeff could have ever done imo.

I'm not trying to pile on here, if you are genuinely not trying to cause trouble here, I'm just trying to give you others perspective.

[Dub H]

May 11, 2022 21:11:18 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Highlights:
- Hayter/Storm was fantastic, hard hitting but with a great pace. Best match in any of the Owen tourney matches so far.
- I liked how much offence Silver got in against Punk, way more fun than being a squash.
- Regal getting a punch in on Jericho was great.
- Starks/Jungle Boy was good too, as was Harwood/Cole.

Lowlights:
- The bizarre decision to have a one move squash match, making Tony Nese seem even more uninteresting because we don't even see him wrestle, the one thing he's presumably good at beyond growing extra sets of abs.
- The main event. Uncomfortable spot after spot, with no flow, direction, or relevance to the tourney it's in, the kind of match I could happily never watch again.
- Britt Baker getting more promo time rather than either of the women actually wrestling tonight.

Your reviews is pretty much In line with mine.

Not just a squash does disrespect to Danhausen,it robs Nese from showing off( But I do like Mark Sterling being cursed)

Main Event I didnt mind it was high risk nor I think it was offensive( I think the only thing you could do that would be offensive is having a wrestler come down on a zipline) but for some reaosn I really wasnt into it as much as I should.

And yeh Britt Baker has had a promo EVERY SINGLE WEEK SINCE HER RETURN

SOMETIMES ON BOTH SHOWS!

Still the positives largely outweights the negative.

[The Ichi]

Actually I just remembered the Dark Side of the Ring parody and that just inches my score to a 10.

[Celgress]

8 out of 10, IMHO.

[Teemu]

Jeff paying tribute to the No Mercy 2008 finish against Triple H, hah. Not the biggest fan of that finish type because it kind of nosells the other guys's move, but oh well. Main event was fun. The episode as a whole gets about a 4/10, pretty much par the course for Dynamite.

[Raw is Doodie101]

I could see how someone could think that Darby spot was offensive tbh. I don't think it was since it's so different but just doing such a dangerous spot that easily could gone wrong. Yeah, I could see why somebody would think that. But I don't think you should assume what other people think especially a widow. Also maybe, Tony told her that spot was coming. We don't know so we shouldn't assume what people were thinking.

I went with a 5. Before the main event, I thought it was a good show but that Main Event is why I struggle to watch the AEW product at times. That Darby spot was so f***ing stupid & dangerous that it just pissed me off. I wish sometimes AEW had someone who has the guts to tell these guys no sometimes. That spot could have easily crippled him especially since Jeff didn't really catch him but it still wouldn't have been a safe spot.

EDIT: Also the wrong guy won. Darby is the future and could have definitely used this week and some progression after his feud with Andrade ended. Hardy is f***ING DONE. He didn't need the win. You can build to the Hardys vs YB without him going over.

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May 11, 2022 22:23:03 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 11, 2022 21:51:06 GMT -5 Tom Selleck said:

Wasn't trying to start anything. Just stating my opinion. I hope I don't get banned for that. I've been here a long long time.

This isn't opinion, you are putting words in a widow's mouth and thinking AEW isn't in constant discussion with her over how the Tournament goes

What happened to Owen was a tragedy, it sucked. High spots in matches don't immediately connect to Owen's death, Owen WAS a high flyer, he was one of the earliest high flyers ever, and he died in a silly gimmick that was the farthest from hardcore ever. 

A highspot didn't kill Owen Hart, a Highspot off a ladder is not distasteful to Owen Hart. An accident on a stunt that never should have happened when he was being brought down on a rafter line killed Owen Hart. It's not the same, and when people act like they know what Martha Hart is thinking, it's more distasteful than anything Darby or Jeff could have ever done imo.

I'm not trying to pile on here, if you are genuinely not trying to cause trouble here, I'm just trying to give you others perspective.

This guy’s most recent post was an “all Asians look the same” joke about Mia Yim and Gail Kim. He’s a troll and he’s not arguing in good faith. Don’t give him the time of day.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 11, 2022 22:34:44 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

May 11, 2022 22:23:03 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

This isn't opinion, you are putting words in a widow's mouth and thinking AEW isn't in constant discussion with her over how the Tournament goes

What happened to Owen was a tragedy, it sucked. High spots in matches don't immediately connect to Owen's death, Owen WAS a high flyer, he was one of the earliest high flyers ever, and he died in a silly gimmick that was the farthest from hardcore ever. 

A highspot didn't kill Owen Hart, a Highspot off a ladder is not distasteful to Owen Hart. An accident on a stunt that never should have happened when he was being brought down on a rafter line killed Owen Hart. It's not the same, and when people act like they know what Martha Hart is thinking, it's more distasteful than anything Darby or Jeff could have ever done imo.

I'm not trying to pile on here, if you are genuinely not trying to cause trouble here, I'm just trying to give you others perspective.

This guy’s most recent post was an “all Asians look the same” joke about Mia Yim and Gail Kim. He’s a troll and he’s not arguing in good faith. Don’t give him the time of day.

Sometimes I like to cover a base, we've had recent discussions about people feeling like they're being "Attacked for expressing AEW Criticism", and while I know that can be a legit concern, this one seems pretty blatant, I'm just trying to cover a base and not act like this is some other example of that

The fact we had multiple posters in the main thread trying to make this a thing too is exhausting imo.

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May 11, 2022 22:37:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 11, 2022 22:34:44 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

This guy’s most recent post was an “all Asians look the same” joke about Mia Yim and Gail Kim. He’s a troll and he’s not arguing in good faith. Don’t give him the time of day.

Sometimes I like to cover a base, we've had recent discussions about people feeling like they're being "Attacked for expressing AEW Criticism" and while I know this one seems pretty blatant, I'm just trying to cover a base and not act like this is some other example of that

The fact we had multiple posters in the main thread trying to make this a thing too is exhausting imo.

No, I agree with you completely. I find it far more offensive to Martha to trivialize Owen’s death and why and how it happened by comparing it to a stupid high spot in a wrestling match than I do having a high spot in a wrestling match on a show she is attending. The two things aren’t even in the same stratosphere.

That dude’s just very deliberately trying to troll, so it’s probably best not to feed him lol

[Teemu]

Catching up on this. I'm never one to defend AEW, but the Owen thing never even crossed my mind. It was Darby doing a Jeff Hardy type spot in a match against Jeff, one of his favorites. He even did Jeff's pose. That's what the story was. In order to beat Jeff, Darby had to become Jeff.

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May 11, 2022 22:31:53 GMT -5 Raw is Doodie101 said:

I could see how someone could think that Darby spot was offensive tbh. I don't think it was since it's so different but just doing such a dangerous spot that easily could gone wrong. Yeah, I could see why somebody would think that. But I don't think you should assume what other people think especially a widow. Also maybe, Tony told her that spot was coming. We don't know so we shouldn't assume what people were thinking.

I went with a 5. Before the main event, I thought it was a good show but that Main Event is why I struggle to watch the AEW product at times. That Darby spot was so f***ing stupid & dangerous that it just pissed me off. I wish sometimes AEW had someone who has the guts to tell these guys no sometimes. That spot could have easily crippled him especially since Jeff didn't really catch him but it still wouldn't have been a safe spot.

EDIT: Also the wrong guy won. Darby is the future and could have definitely used this week and some progression after his feud with Andrade ended. Hardy is f***ING DONE. He didn't need the win. You can build to the Hardys vs YB without him going over.

I didn't think the spot was that bad at all, they landed flush and Darby was good. That's a spot they probably rehearsed and made sure went fine. A simple front flip into the chair casket.

Darby can afford the loss imo, and I think you save Cole vs Darby. Jeff can lose to Cole easier, it builds Hardy's vs Bucks, and frankly this is probably the swan song run for both Hardy's or at the very least Matt... Jeff can win some here, Darby is the future, it's why losses like this won't hurt as much, and honestly, if they have another match, Darby probably wins.

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May 11, 2022 22:43:10 GMT -5 Teemu said:

Catching up on this. I'm never one to defend AEW, but the Owen thing never even crossed my mind. It was Darby doing a Jeff Hardy type spot in a match against Jeff, one of his favorites. He even did Jeff's pose. That's what the story was. In order to beat Jeff, Darby had to become Jeff.

The Owen is there to honor Owen and the entire Hart family. Earlier in the night we had literal Shawn vs Bret shoutouts, Darby vs Jeff was them going out there and having a dream match, Darby facing his idol, and doing daredevil stuff to try and beat him and the like

The fact we had people immediately try and speak for Martha Hart on what she would approve or want to see just... we need less of this, I wouldn't find these takes cool if it was in WWE either, I wanna make that perfectly clear.

[Mecca]

They didn't sign Jeff to be a job guy, they're gonna get some dream matches out of this.

[Cyno]

I didn't see Darby or Jeff use a poorly rigged zip line to fall dozens of feet, so that's a pretty gross thing to imply. Or put words in Martha Hart's mouth. It's this kind of garbage that is the reason why we have a sticky thread.

Anyway I'm giving it an 8. Would've been higher but I wasn't really into the main event, though I have no problem with who won.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

The other thing about the main event I'll say is I know the spot had risk to it, but Darby hit nothing but Jeff and the flats of the chairs, you can see Jeff and him talking post spot just to make sure all was good and it seemed to be

Darby was a professional stuntman before this wrestling thing, I actually think I'd trust him, as insane as he is, with these spots more than anyone else. He literally pissed off his first wrestling coach because his first bumps didn't hurt him at all.

[Duke Cameron]

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