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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 13, 2022 15:30:23 GMT -5
I found the stuff through the 4th wall quite amusing. But in general, that was a real failure of an actual ending. It was anticlimatic and felt like a massive cop out rather than some innovative TV. Shame, really enjoyed the series up to now, but no, that just sucked. The intro however, the Bixby inspired thing, was f***ing brilliant. I won’t get to watch until after work but it seems to me after all the character development that they dropped all of that crap for the over the top 4th wall breaking in the last episode. {Spoiler}So all of these incels had access to an over the top facility to let them steal Jen’s blood and make their own Hulk’s and Leader wasn’t involved in any way? That’s stupid. They literally could have been one of his little side gigs to destabilize America before his full scheme is revealed in Cap 4.
Also the Emil swerve…knew he wasn’t full on evil but that’s really how they go about it? Hulk accidentally thinks he attacks Jen and they go for round 2? Rushing Bruce back was stupid and actually stole what could have been a huge character building moment for him in breaking parole by turning into Abomination to help Jen against the Hulked out idiots just to pay the price…
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…Wong back to his hi-jinx instead of Val making a deal to get Emil onboard as the Thunderbolts’ Hulk was a major let down. It would have called back to the World Security Council wanting him on the Avengers and not Banner. He and Red Guardian hamming it up would have made that movie..instead we’re stuck with a lot of angsty characters. Doesn’t make me feel that excited for a movie I was looking forward to.
Introducing Skaar in basically a throwaway gag scene? Ok.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Oct 13, 2022 16:01:02 GMT -5
One thing I want to know: {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}When it goes to the Disney+ Marvel menu. I makes the tone when interact with the menu when using the remote on a Apple TV unit.
I watched on a Apple TV so I though something happened with my device at first before realising it was part of the show.
So did they also make versions for other operating system menus?
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Post by chrom on Oct 13, 2022 16:30:39 GMT -5
The whole 4th wall and Disney+ thing they should've saved it for Deadpool 3
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 13, 2022 17:56:59 GMT -5
The whole 4th wall and Disney+ thing they should've saved it for Deadpool 3 It wouldn't really work, since Deadpool 3 is going to be a theatrical release. I do expect K.E.V.I.N. to be in it, though.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 13, 2022 18:53:31 GMT -5
I just realized…what series is up next? Do we have another this year?
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Post by chrom on Oct 13, 2022 18:59:07 GMT -5
I just realized…what series is up next? Do we have another this year? I think that's the last series for this year. Wakanda Forever is all that's left for Marvel in 2022
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 13, 2022 19:36:59 GMT -5
I just realized…what series is up next? Do we have another this year? The next actual series is Secret Invasion early next year. We do have the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special in December, though.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 13, 2022 21:37:29 GMT -5
Dan Slott is not considered a bad writer by a significant group of people, definitely not Marvel or he wouldn't be the guy who's written more of their flagship character than anyone in history. His She Hulk was great too You’ve obviously spent no time talking to Spider-Man readers then, most of whom consider Slott one of the worst writers in the characters history. He spent 10 years crapping all over Mary Jane’s character, destroying her relationship with Peter and turned Doctor Octopus into a pervert while in Peter’s body during the Brand New Day and Superior eras. Let’s not forget the damage he also did to Black Cat’s character by turning her into a full on, homicidal villain. Took Nick Spencer coming along to fix most of that. Fantastic Four readers weren’t happy with his run there either. The fact that you think Slott writing a lot of major characters is a sign of him being a good writer is absurd. You can attribute that to Marvel being stagnant with their writing and sticking with the same old writers despite the fans voicing their displeasure with their writing.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 13, 2022 21:59:37 GMT -5
I rather have seen a full episode where she actually deals with them in court, but we got the quick brush off instead. They cared more about sticking it to the internet trolls then the actual viewers. Also it’s starting to get a little annoying that someone gets jumped on the minute they don’t like something the MCU did. Two people mildly disagreeing with you is not being "jumped on." The number doesn’t matter. People seem awfully defensive when someone comes along and has an opinion that doesn’t match their own.
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Post by Cyno on Oct 13, 2022 22:45:40 GMT -5
Two people mildly disagreeing with you is not being "jumped on." The number doesn’t matter. People seem awfully defensive when someone comes along and has an opinion that doesn’t match their own. Quite frankly, the only one here being defensive and looking like they can't handle opinions that match their own is you.
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Post by thechase on Oct 13, 2022 23:37:49 GMT -5
Dan Slott is not considered a bad writer by a significant group of people, definitely not Marvel or he wouldn't be the guy who's written more of their flagship character than anyone in history. His She Hulk was great too You’ve obviously spent no time talking to Spider-Man readers then, most of whom consider Slott one of the worst writers in the characters history. He spent 10 years crapping all over Mary Jane’s character, destroying her relationship with Peter and turned Doctor Octopus into a pervert while in Peter’s body during the Brand New Day and Superior eras. Let’s not forget the damage he also did to Black Cat’s character by turning her into a full on, homicidal villain. Took Nick Spencer coming along to fix most of that. Fantastic Four readers weren’t happy with his run there either. The fact that you think Slott writing a lot of major characters is a sign of him being a good writer is absurd. You can attribute that to Marvel being stagnant with their writing and sticking with the same old writers despite the fans voicing their displeasure with their writing. Not to mention Slott is a reprehensible human being who has abused several fans online, even blocking some for even the slightest criticisms of his utterly mid works. There are members of the Snyder cult more mature than that douche.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 14, 2022 0:03:44 GMT -5
Finally got to sit down after work and watch it. Better than I was expecting it to finish.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Oct 14, 2022 2:26:01 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}They didn't break the fourth wall, they ran through it with a f***ing semi-truck. Very Blazing Saddles-esque. Not gonna lie, I was kiiiinda expecting a Deadpool cameo or maybe a reference to him but maybe that would have been a little too much. I really hope in Deadpool 3 he's pissed that She-Hulk stole his "thing", even though she did it well before him in the comics.
"I would not mind seeing Daredevil again. A woman has needs."Girl, I understand 100%. Nice seeing Matt be all happy too because it's not gonna last long when he finds out Kingpin is getting his power back. Also, we're going to get a new Hulk movie, right?
I will probably rank this in the mid tier of MCU shows. Maybe on the level of WandaVision for me. Bit flawed at times (that CGI is unforgivable) but I like that they did something a little different. I wasn't sure if it needed 9 episodes until I realised it's got a shorter run time compared to the other shows. To the surprise of nobody, the reactions to this average-at-worst show has been a joke. The villains of this show are probably preparing for their next meltdown when The Marvels is out in 2023.
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Post by Hurbster on Oct 14, 2022 2:26:27 GMT -5
When I'm back in my own flat (still at my parents due to being in a wheelchair for the next month or so) I have so much to catch up on.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 14, 2022 2:29:13 GMT -5
Had time this week to watch all of this show. Much like Kenobi, I think I'm happier I did it that way and definitely happier I missed a lot of the heated debate over things that turned out fine in later episodes anyway.
She-Hulk was daft and silly and a fun time. Surprised going in how sitcom-y it was, but a nice different flavour and I think the 30 mins runtime was a strong plus point. After so much heavy plot stuff in recent shows, this was a very easy 2-3 eps a day watch.
I think 4, 8 and 9 were my favourite eps. For the MCU, some very sly and innovative things in 9.
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Post by schma on Oct 14, 2022 2:35:53 GMT -5
Looking back on it, I enjoyed the whole season and the finale. I can absolutely see why it's not everyone's cup of tea and the show definitely had flaws but I had a good time watching it.ive also enjoyed that the vast majority of discussion in this thread has been mature and we were able to explore varying opinions without the rhetoric that was invading some other venues. I will probably go back and rewatch it at some point.
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Post by clifford on Oct 14, 2022 4:37:49 GMT -5
Hulk Smash the Fourth Wall
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 14, 2022 6:23:35 GMT -5
Hulk Smash the Fourth Wall {Spoiler}And Matt Murdock. I really enjoyed this show. I think I'd rank it second of the Disney+ MCU shows, behind Hawkeye. It was so much fun.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Oct 14, 2022 8:11:38 GMT -5
Two people mildly disagreeing with you is not being "jumped on." The number doesn’t matter. People seem awfully defensive when someone comes along and has an opinion that doesn’t match their own. You got all defensive when I pointed out that the current run of She Hulk that you love barely matters. Now I have not read it and if I did I may think its the best I ever read. But Byrnes She Hulk #1 was the number 2 behind Uncanny X Men. Which means it sold hundreds of thousands of copies. While the current run probably never breaks 50,000. Byrne was considered groundbreaking for his radical take on comics. Heck even Slott was considered a breath of fresh air for his focus on legal issues in a superhero universe. Along with a renewed focus on Jen. What is groundbreaking or fresh about the new run. Not snark, I would be interested to hear. Because of their disastrous decision to focus on the hardcore audience (and guaranteed money) over an all ages and self renewing audience comics have made themselves irrelevant. If major media companies could not mine their IP for billion dollar films they would have been shuttered years ago. The MCU is what comics used to be. An all ages escapist fantasy. People dont want Hydra Cap conquering the US. They want Chris Evans being the biggest boy scout ever.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 14, 2022 8:48:11 GMT -5
Dan Slott is not considered a bad writer by a significant group of people, definitely not Marvel or he wouldn't be the guy who's written more of their flagship character than anyone in history. His She Hulk was great too You’ve obviously spent no time talking to Spider-Man readers then, most of whom consider Slott one of the worst writers in the characters history. He spent 10 years crapping all over Mary Jane’s character, destroying her relationship with Peter and turned Doctor Octopus into a pervert while in Peter’s body during the Brand New Day and Superior eras. Let’s not forget the damage he also did to Black Cat’s character by turning her into a full on, homicidal villain. Took Nick Spencer coming along to fix most of that. Fantastic Four readers weren’t happy with his run there either. The fact that you think Slott writing a lot of major characters is a sign of him being a good writer is absurd. You can attribute that to Marvel being stagnant with their writing and sticking with the same old writers despite the fans voicing their displeasure with their writing. I am a Spider-man reader. I said y'all weren't a significant nb And I said Marvel didn't think he was a bad writer. Hell they just gave him another Spidey ongoing.
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