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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on May 25, 2022 21:15:28 GMT -5
I hope the mods are ok with this thread.
I am lucky enough to live next to my sister and her kids. They are incredibly awesome and often excitedly show me their elementary school art projects or tell me facts or jokes they have learned. The recent shooting really hit home and I can't imagine how heartbroken I would be if I was in their position.
It isn't much but I wanted to make a thread to send my love to all those affected. Something has to change.
-Chris-
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Post by Matt on May 25, 2022 21:30:09 GMT -5
Mine does too, it’s just so awful the whole thing. I’m in Buffalo, NY and we had one 11 days ago here that they are still doing funerals for.
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Post by Cyno on May 25, 2022 21:54:37 GMT -5
I'm a regular listener of the Michael Kay Show and he started off the show talking about this. He was so upset and angry. Really sounded like he was crying while taking about it. Was a really powerful listen.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on May 25, 2022 22:22:13 GMT -5
Sadly it's like cyberbullying, when you hear (CELEBRITY) died from drugs, and such. We're sad for a while, then the show must go on.
(with wrestling, there was the time everyone was dying young due to drug use. Same thing. Shoot, the cyberbullying thing is valid too...2 years after Hana Kimura it still happens...)
And we REALLY will get nothing done so long as we remain as tribal as we've been... Why am I surprised, seeing as this is the same society that can't agree on election results, civil rights, and a medical issue, in the name of what they believe in politically.
(Sorry I can't resist one jab, no pun intended. Certain types would be worried if they were not gun shots, but shots you get at CVS or Walgreens...)
Shoot I think we don't agree about Dolly Parton anymore, FFS! (because of a rare "political" statement she made 2 years ago) I bet if we find out what (POLITICIAN) likes for breakfast, we'll argue forever about cereals too.
I'm mad at everyone and everything. Some days I feel like if I didn't have stakes in things where I am now, the only chance for me is to leave here some day altogether and go somewhere else. Believe me, that's a tame example of quitting I've felt like some times throughout my life too...right up to now even...
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 25, 2022 22:41:51 GMT -5
We waited until the kids had their last day of school today to talk to them about it. My son is the same age and in the same grade as the children. My wife told them about it while I was at work and my son asked why anyone would do something like that? Unfortunately that’s a question I’ve been dealing with since Columbine happened my senior year of high school.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on May 25, 2022 23:01:04 GMT -5
I live in San Antonio and Uvalde is so close by. Just so awful every time this happens and it hit really close to home this time. I can’t even fathom what the families are feeling.
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Post by lucas_lee on May 25, 2022 23:07:23 GMT -5
I haven't been able to sleep peacefully knowing that we'll all just move on. This like Sandy Hook bothers me a lot. It takes a special kind of evil to plan something this cowardly and calculated. Whatever sympathy of mental issues I had for the killer went out the window the minute he killed all those innocent people
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J. Hova
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Post by J. Hova on May 25, 2022 23:19:32 GMT -5
As others have said, we won't do anything about it.
I remember when Columbine happened and we all had a long talk in Junior High about it. I remember vividly my gym teacher telling us that he may or may not keep a revolver in his trunk (these were different times in a small town).
I also remember vividly when Sandy Hook happened as I was getting Direct TV upgraded in my house and the first thing that came on was that. The install tech and I just sat there in stunned silence at what we were watching.
Listen, I'm a gun owner and I firmly believe that if you are a sane human being in the USA, you should be allowed to own a gun if your heart desires. I don't believe that everyone who so desires should be able to get a gun. I also don't believe that assault weapons should be easily accessible.
I don't know what the answer to this is, but I know what we have been doing isn't working. There is absolutely zero excuse for this and the fact that children are being slaughtered while at school.
I can't even imagine the heartache that those families are going through and what the survivors will endure for the rest of their lives. I only hope that they can honor the memory of those who were slain by living their lives to the fullest.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 26, 2022 0:08:14 GMT -5
Do something. Anything. Every thinking person knows the answer. If this happened all over the world, maybe it would be a mystery. It happens in one country.
Do something.
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Post by HeyYo on May 26, 2022 1:47:09 GMT -5
Thoughts and prayers aren't a policy. It hasn't worked.
Sadly nothing will change. I can't put into words how pissed off I am about what happened itself and that politicians will keep the status quo.
I know someone that was killed in a mass shooting. The family is still, understandably, suffering greatly. Our town is still suffering greatly two years later.
News like this has become way too normalized. Don't just feel bad and move on tomorrow, like Cranjis McBasketball said, do something.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 26, 2022 2:00:52 GMT -5
Parents of the deceased children have had to give DNA samples to help with the investigation, which says to me that there is very little in the way of identifiable remains. I'm of the opinion that individuals in a position to do something but choose not to should be made to see the crime scene photos, to view exactly what their stances have enabled time and time again.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 26, 2022 2:05:55 GMT -5
AEW has a really good response to this. As I said in the thread, JR has had his critics of late, but he handled that with class and said a lot with very little and without crossing any lines. I assume WWE will as well at the very least have a moment of silence if a statement as well on Smackdown.
I can't imagine what the families are going through, more over as said above me, the fact DNA is needed to identify some bodies makes the horror first responders more than likely saw when they arrived all the clearer.
No one deserves to go through this. Also knowing that there was an awards event like an hour before this happened and some parents saw their kids for the last time there? Just... man. The video of the high school graduates walking the halls of the school with all the kids too is just heartbreaking.
If there is any ray of hope in this at all, it's that the Grandmother is still fighting and hopefully pulls through this.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on May 26, 2022 2:09:29 GMT -5
One of the best books I read last year was Gunfight by Ryan Bussey. He was a Kimber executive and one time big wheel in the gun industry, before becoming disillusioned and quitting. Incredible book that talks about the rise to power and influence the NRA has over the gun manufacturers, and the change in culture of gun owners through the years. If you want to know why this happens and why nothing has been done about it, read this book. At the very least, listen to his interview on Fresh Air. archive.org/details/WNPR_90_5_FM_20211122_170000
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Post by thechase on May 26, 2022 2:55:45 GMT -5
I lived through Dunblane here in the UK...I can't imagine how people keep living through these like it's an everyday occurrence, but for those who are forced to, you are valued and respected. We must do better.
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Post by ERON on May 26, 2022 3:15:23 GMT -5
I have been worried about my brother and his family who are moving to Buffalo this week, not far from where the recent shooting occurred - we just had a going away party for them this past Sunday. And then this happened not 40 minutes from where I live. It's everywhere.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 26, 2022 4:16:02 GMT -5
I lived through Dunblane here in the UK...I can't imagine how people keep living through these like it's an everyday occurrence, but for those who are forced to, you are valued and respected. We must do better. The problem is, it is an every day occurrence. It's just that only the particularly horrifying cases that make the national and international news. Since the start of the year, the Robb Elementary School shooting was the 252nd shooting in which four or more people were shot, the 213th with fatalities, and the 27th school shooting. At this point mass shootings are as American as apple pie.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on May 26, 2022 5:27:35 GMT -5
I lived through Dunblane here in the UK...I can't imagine how people keep living through these like it's an everyday occurrence, but for those who are forced to, you are valued and respected. We must do better. I was in primary school when Dunblane happened, I wouldn't have been too different in age to those kids. It was so unusual and so bizarre and I couldn't imagine a world in which having to have a drill for a gunman was the norm in the same way that having a fire drill was, or going to school and genuinely having to fear someone murdering me while I was there.
But what really blows my mind is that I remember the reaction to that from pretty much everyone regardless of political position was what I would consider to be the normal one, which was to make sure it would never happen again. So at the risk of getting too political, as an outsider I can't get my head around the idea of keeping children safe from people with guns in school being as contentious an issue as it is after incidents like this. And I hate that I had to say incidents, plural.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 26, 2022 5:55:38 GMT -5
After Sandy Hook, we all said 'Never again'.
Know what's changed since then? Kids have been taught how to duck, run and cover. That's it. We've basically told the kids "Here's whatcha do, Good luck!"
That's incredibly f***ed up and it should make everyone angry
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 26, 2022 6:18:42 GMT -5
Those poor souls and I can't imagine how the parents feel.
Home and school should be the two safest places for kids.
This is so very sad and action needs to be taken.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 6:28:27 GMT -5
I live in the far east and I have American friends who have married women from countries where for obvious reasons this is unthinkable. A lot of these couples are now living in the States and have elementary school aged children. I wonder what these women are thinking, full of fear for their kids and a kind of fear that would be alien to their peers raising children back home.
It can be done. America was the first major country to take on the then powerful tobacco lobby, making their product so expensive and inconvenient to use that it vastly reduced the lobby's power and has saved millions of lives worldwide.
I hope they can do it again.
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