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Post by greyfmdan on May 29, 2022 14:13:43 GMT -5
If AEW releases him and he shows up in WWE shortly thereafter crowing about what he did, AEW could very well file a contract tampering suit just to get to discovery and see what shakes out. Tony has the money to throw at this. WWE, with it's shareholders, would do well to not try and force his hand. There's no way AEW or anyone else wants to open that can of worms. Jeff Hardy debuted in AEW the day his no-compete ended. You'd have to be the most gullible person in the world to believe that he contacted Tony for the very first time that morning, negotiated a deal, arranged travel to whatever city Dynamite was in and magically had a whole line of merch ready to sell all within a matter of hours, not to mention there was all the teases on TV for weeks beforehand. Legal or not, Tony clearly struck a deal with Hardy before his previous contract expired just like every big company in any sport does. Matt flat out said in an interview a week or two earlier that Jeff was coming in and was just waiting for his WWE deal to expire. Someone obviously got in his ear and told him to watch what he was saying because the next day in another interview he tried to walk back those comments. It's this weird thing were literally everyone knows it happens all the time but you can't admit to doing it because it's illegal. It may depend on how the contract is written. But generally, negotiating with another company during the non-compete period is fine. The individual just can’t do any actual work for a competing company, and in the case of media, the new employer-to-be can’t mention the new hire or have them appear on air until the non-compete period ends. The local TV stations in my area have had a few occasions over the years where a newscaster or other on-air talent would jump from one station to another in the market. It was reported in the local newspaper that the move was taking place, and those of us who follow local media knew it was happening. But the talent couldn’t appear on the new station during the non-compete period, and the new station couldn’t promote “X is coming” during the period (though I can remember one occasion where a station dropped strong hints). And for local TV, at least in this market, I believe the non-compete is usually a full six months. |
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Post by Legion on May 29, 2022 14:15:05 GMT -5
Doudrop and Nikki didn’t get to appear on Raw in a match neither of them was winning. Asuka and Becky’s program got moved back a month probably. That’s a far cry from what MJF no-showing would do to Wardlow. At the very core of it, Naomi and Sasha left before a program could begin. Wardlow is potentially being walked out on at the very final climax of his huge star-making storyline. It's another galaxy. Yeah, gotta say I'm very much still on the Naomi and Sasha have been unprofessional in their situation, but this is above and beyond. If this isnt a work and he genuinely is planning to no show, he should be black balled for a good while to go away and learn some humility and professionalism - and WWE bringing him in immediately would absolutely send the wrong message to everyone, including unhappy people in their own locker rooms. Mothman and I literally never agree, but he's right here. |
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Post by spagett on May 29, 2022 14:15:44 GMT -5
Doudrop and Nikki didn’t get to appear on Raw in a match neither of them was winning. Asuka and Becky’s program got moved back a month probably. That’s a far cry from what MJF no-showing would do to Wardlow. At the very core of it, Naomi and Sasha left before a program could begin. Wardlow is potentially being walked out on at the very final climax of his huge star-making storyline. It's another galaxy. Yep it's a very important distinction. In the infamous Cabana podcast I specifically remember CM Punk making the point that he walked out the day after the Rumble without really being involved in any major feud. I know he was eventually going to face HHH and they'd started to hint in that direction but there was nothing concrete and he made the valid point he wasn't preventing any big time advertised match from happening. So for MJF to walk out the day before a huge PPV match, that's been building for 2 and a half years, it really is shitty. |
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on May 29, 2022 14:15:48 GMT -5
Well, what about
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Post by Dub H on May 29, 2022 14:17:00 GMT -5
The raise stuff has been denied. SRS said countless times that TK is willing to pay the money to keep him. Whatever this is, it isn’t about money. Isn't the story that he wants a raise without an extension? Which TK would be a moron to give him. Fightful Select ,in the youtube podcast, said MJF's side denied wanting just a raise without an extension. |
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Post by Bo Rida on May 29, 2022 14:17:19 GMT -5
MJF leaving is worse than Sasha and Naomi walking out. But. The it feels like the main reason some cheered them and are upset with MJF is simply that they like AEW and dislike WWE. Partially but that's largely because WWE's contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on. You get a AEW contract and providing you avoid getting fired for gross misconduct you'll be paid for it's duration. There's a tradeoff, maybe it's less pay at the top end but the benefit is the security it will be honoured, MJF could have flopped or been unable to work for a year and he'd be paid for the agreed time. Really I think they're all at fault but like others said MJF's is way worse, particulary for the timing. |
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Post by spagett on May 29, 2022 14:19:43 GMT -5
Isn't the story that he wants a raise without an extension? Which TK would be a moron to give him. Fightful Select ,in the youtube podcast, said MJF's side denied wanting just a raise without an extension. They also said though that Tony Khan has said he wants to talk with MJF about giving him more money and extending his contract and MJF refuses to do it, with SRS has said he doesn't understand the logic of. Personally I think he's been tapped up by WWE and told they'd offer him a huge deal and he's trying to get out of his contract now by being an unprofessional dick. |
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Post by Dub H on May 29, 2022 14:20:27 GMT -5
MJF leaving is worse than Sasha and Naomi walking out. But. The it feels like the main reason some cheered them and are upset with MJF is simply that they like AEW and dislike WWE. Partially but that's largely because WWE's contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on. You get a AEW contract and providing you avoid getting fired for gross misconduct you'll be paid for it's duration. There's a tradeoff, maybe it's less pay at the top end but the benefit is the security it will be honoured, MJF could have flopped or been unable to work for a year and he'd be paid for the agreed time. Really I think they're all at fault but like others said MJF's is way worse, particulary for the timing. I would be perfectly fine with MJF's decision to leave if he is unhappy. Again its all about trying to use someone else's career of a 3 years build as a bargaining chip. |
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Post by Dub H on May 29, 2022 14:20:55 GMT -5
Fightful Select ,in the youtube podcast, said MJF's side denied wanting just a raise without an extension. They also said though that Tony Khan has said he wants to talk with MJF about giving him more money and extending his contract and MJF refuses to do it, with SRS has said he doesn't understand the logic of. Personally I think he's been tapped up by WWE and told they'd offer him a huge deal and he's trying to get out of his contract now by being an unprofessional dick. If all the facts are correct really seems like it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 14:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 29, 2022 14:23:22 GMT -5
MJF leaving is worse than Sasha and Naomi walking out. But. The it feels like the main reason some cheered them and are upset with MJF is simply that they like AEW and dislike WWE. Partially but that's largely because WWE's contracts aren't worth the paper they're written on. You get a AEW contract and providing you avoid getting fired for gross misconduct you'll be paid for it's duration. There's a tradeoff, maybe it's less pay at the top end but the benefit is the security it will be honoured, MJF could have flopped or been unable to work for a year and he'd be paid for the agreed time. Really I think they're all at fault but like others said MJF's is way worse, particulary for the timing. One company has a deep history of mistreating its workers and people dont feel bad when someone does it back to them, one company has like one big misstep but by and large doesn't f*** people eight ways from Sunday like that |
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Post by khali on May 29, 2022 14:24:07 GMT -5
Fightful Select ,in the youtube podcast, said MJF's side denied wanting just a raise without an extension. They also said though that Tony Khan has said he wants to talk with MJF about giving him more money and extending his contract and MJF refuses to do it, with SRS has said he doesn't understand the logic of. Personally I think he's been tapped up by WWE and told they'd offer him a huge deal and he's trying to get out of his contract now by being an unprofessional dick. So MJF is coming out tonight as Body Suit Man? |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 14:25:52 GMT -5
Fightful Select ,in the youtube podcast, said MJF's side denied wanting just a raise without an extension. They also said though that Tony Khan has said he wants to talk with MJF about giving him more money and extending his contract and MJF refuses to do it, with SRS has said he doesn't understand the logic of. Personally I think he's been tapped up by WWE and told they'd offer him a huge deal and he's trying to get out of his contract now by being an unprofessional dick. If this is really what happened, then AEW is going to sue WWE into the ground. And, yes, they’ll be more than willing to “open that can of worms,” even in light of the Jeff Hardy situation. There’s a major difference between potentially having talked to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and is within the notice period of his contract, and outright inducing MJF to breach his contract with two years left on the deal. Speculation is rampant, but if that’s truly what happened it won’t be pretty. TK won’t take that lying down. |
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Post by chrom on May 29, 2022 14:27:16 GMT -5
I say the match doesn't have a pulse now. Why could they not agree to do a career vs career match and have him go out like that. I'm sure he'd be open to doing that instead |
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Post by spagett on May 29, 2022 14:28:05 GMT -5
I just think it's complete madness by MJF.
If he'd stayed in AEW until 2024, encouraged the bidding war then signed with WWE he'd have made huge money and left AEW on decent terms. Then in WWE if it doesn't go as well as he hoped, and there's no guarantee he'd be a success in WWE with his size and the fact he wouldn't be given free reign on the mic, he'd always be able to go back to AEW.
But if he has walked out he's totally burned his bridges with AEW and put all his eggs on being treated well by Vince and WWE.
It's one hell of a risky gamble.
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Post by Nosnorb on May 29, 2022 14:29:14 GMT -5
At the very core of it, Naomi and Sasha left before a program could begin. Wardlow is potentially being walked out on at the very final climax of his huge star-making storyline. It's another galaxy. Yep it's a very important distinction. In the infamous Cabana podcast I specifically remember CM Punk making the point that he walked out the day after the Rumble without really being involved in any major feud. I know he was eventually going to face HHH and they'd started to hint in that direction but there was nothing concrete and he made the valid point he wasn't preventing any big time advertised match from happening. So for MJF to walk out the day before a huge PPV match, that's been building for 2 and a half years, it really is shitty. Punk was also so injured he could only do like 2-3 moves and looked like death warmed up. |
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Post by AEW19 on May 29, 2022 14:31:06 GMT -5
Welp, MJF isn't backstage. I wonder what they will do.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on May 29, 2022 14:31:18 GMT -5
AEW seemed so “we’re all a family” eight months ago, wonder what went wrong
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 14:31:26 GMT -5
I just think it's complete madness by MJF. If he'd stayed in AEW until 2024, encouraged the bidding war then signed with WWE he'd have made huge money and left AEW on decent terms. Then in WWE if it doesn't go as well as he hoped, and there's no guarantee he'd be a success in WWE with his size and the fact he wouldn't be given free reign on the mic, he'd always be able to go back to AEW. But if he has walked out he's totally burned his bridges with AEW and put all his eggs on being treated well by Vince and WWE. It's one hell of a risky gamble. The other thing is, if MJF had done things the proper way, and gone to WWE when his deal expired, I’d be rooting for him to absolutely blow the world away and kill it in WWE. Just like Cody. If this is really playing out like is being speculated, I hope he f***ing flops in WWE and is cutting promos about suffering succotashes and jobbing to Madcap Moss. Within the year. Like, seriously, f*** that guy. If he’s leaving like this, I wish him nothing but the worst and professional failure in his career. I won’t be the only one who feels that way. And not in a way that helps his heel wrestling character. In a way that, like, I will never watch another show with MJF on it because I don’t want to support this kind of unprofessional behavior. |
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Post by chrom on May 29, 2022 14:31:57 GMT -5
Welp, MJF isn't backstage. I wonder what they will do. Have Wardlow interrupt and win The Owen Finals or TNT Belt |
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