MJF no show AEW Fan Fest

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May 29, 2022 14:31:18 GMT -5 jhbboy198917 said:

AEW seemed so “we’re all a family” eight months ago, wonder what went wrong

Vin Diesel sued.

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May 29, 2022 14:31:26 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

May 29, 2022 14:28:05 GMT -5 spagett said:

I just think it's complete madness by MJF.

If he'd stayed in AEW until 2024, encouraged the bidding war then signed with WWE he'd have made huge money and left AEW on decent terms. Then in WWE if it doesn't go as well as he hoped, and there's no guarantee he'd be a success in WWE with his size and the fact he wouldn't be given free reign on the mic, he'd always be able to go back to AEW.

But if he has walked out he's totally burned his bridges with AEW and put all his eggs on being treated well by Vince and WWE.

It's one hell of a risky gamble.

The other thing is, if MJF had done things the proper way, and gone to WWE when his deal expired, I’d be rooting for him to absolutely blow the world away and kill it in WWE. Just like Cody.

If this is really playing out like is being speculated, I hope he f***ing flops in WWE and is cutting promos about suffering succotashes and jobbing to Madcap Moss. Within the year.

Like, seriously, f*** that guy. If he’s leaving like this, I wish him nothing but the worst and professional failure in his career. I won’t be the only one who feels that way. And not in a way that helps his heel wrestling character. In a way that, like, I will never watch another show with MJF on it because I don’t want to support this kind of unprofessional behavior.

I completely agree.

He's completely shit all over Wardlows big moment, it's such a horrible thing to do to someone.

If I'm a wrestler and I get put in a programme with MJF I'm definitely wary about working with him or putting him over.

[Fake Jesus]

If he no-shows, the likeliest course of action is getting benched by AEW for two years and then low-balled by WWE or just not signed because Vince will have forgotten he exists. Which is lmao territory.

At least I won't have to hear people pretending this dude's midwit promos are Piper-tier anymore

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May 29, 2022 14:31:18 GMT -5 jhbboy198917 said:

AEW seemed so “we’re all a family” eight months ago, wonder what went wrong

Lot of families are dysfunctional behind scenes

[One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs]

Outlandish theory time: the main event is going so late because MJF is gonna help Punk beat Hangman and they want to have free reign over social media engagement. The Hangman promo makes a little more sense if the plan is "Punk's been a terrible influence backstage" and they're planning on a Summer of Punk 3

[rnrk supports BLM]

I can't believe this is just about money. Spectacularly burning your bridge with one of the two promoters you're expecting to have a bidding war over your contract kneecaps your own negotiating power.

I don't know if or when it'll ever come out, but I've got to think there's another underlying issue here behind MJF wanting out this badly.

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Perhaps Khan and MJF negotiated the latters release weeks ago, and this is their plan to write MJF off from AEW. He gets squashed by Wardlow taking an insane amount of punishment, and I dunno, Khan does a mock “YERRR FIREDDDD” Vince growl on the mic as MJF does a stretcher job.

Not the way I’d do it but, not outside the realms of possibility.

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May 29, 2022 14:25:52 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

May 29, 2022 14:19:43 GMT -5 spagett said:

They also said though that Tony Khan has said he wants to talk with MJF about giving him more money and extending his contract and MJF refuses to do it, with SRS has said he doesn't understand the logic of.

Personally I think he's been tapped up by WWE and told they'd offer him a huge deal and he's trying to get out of his contract now by being an unprofessional dick.

If this is really what happened, then AEW is going to sue WWE into the ground.

And, yes, they’ll be more than willing to “open that can of worms,” even in light of the Jeff Hardy situation.

There’s a major difference between potentially having talked to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and is within the notice period of his contract, and outright inducing MJF to breach his contract with two years left on the deal.

Speculation is rampant, but if that’s truly what happened it won’t be pretty. TK won’t take that lying down.

Then Vince would just sue for the Jeff shit.

Also, I highly doubt anybody from WWE corporate told MJF to do this. They could have just had Cody talk to him like Lebron & Wade before they joined the heat. Pat Riley didn't need to do that directly. Just made sure he had the cap space. Vince wouldn't have to tell MJF anything. Just have the money ready.

[clifford]

MJF has always struck me as a very intelligent dude, so if this is going down the way most people are thinking its going down, I am just dumbfounded, cause its the stupidest move he could make.

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May 29, 2022 14:28:05 GMT -5 spagett said:

I just think it's complete madness by MJF.

If he'd stayed in AEW until 2024, encouraged the bidding war then signed with WWE he'd have made huge money and left AEW on decent terms. Then in WWE if it doesn't go as well as he hoped, and there's no guarantee he'd be a success in WWE with his size and the fact he wouldn't be given free reign on the mic, he'd always be able to go back to AEW.

But if he has walked out he's totally burned his bridges with AEW and put all his eggs on being treated well by Vince and WWE.

It's one hell of a risky gamble.

At some point, if he didn't renew his contract, he would have been depushed.

At least MJF basically walked out the day before rather than during the show like Noami and Sasha.

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May 29, 2022 14:38:41 GMT -5 papagiorgio said:

May 29, 2022 14:28:05 GMT -5 spagett said:

I just think it's complete madness by MJF.

If he'd stayed in AEW until 2024, encouraged the bidding war then signed with WWE he'd have made huge money and left AEW on decent terms. Then in WWE if it doesn't go as well as he hoped, and there's no guarantee he'd be a success in WWE with his size and the fact he wouldn't be given free reign on the mic, he'd always be able to go back to AEW.

But if he has walked out he's totally burned his bridges with AEW and put all his eggs on being treated well by Vince and WWE.

It's one hell of a risky gamble.

At some point, if he didn't renew his contract, he would have been depushed.

At least MJF basically walked out the day before rather than during the show like Noami and Sasha.

Are you seriously trying to argue MJF walking out the day before the PPV with his match that's been building for 2 and a half years is better than Sasha and Naomi walking out on a match that hadn't even been announced to the public yet?

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May 29, 2022 14:29:14 GMT -5 Nosnorb said:

May 29, 2022 14:15:44 GMT -5 spagett said:

Yep it's a very important distinction.

In the infamous Cabana podcast I specifically remember CM Punk making the point that he walked out the day after the Rumble without really being involved in any major feud. I know he was eventually going to face HHH and they'd started to hint in that direction but there was nothing concrete and he made the valid point he wasn't preventing any big time advertised match from happening.

So for MJF to walk out the day before a huge PPV match, that's been building for 2 and a half years, it really is shitty.

Punk was also so injured he could only do like 2-3 moves and looked like death warmed up.

There's also the fact that Punk fulfilled all the dates on his contract, THEN left.

Look, I don't know the full story so I'm not going to pick a side. Tony Khan can be a thin-skinned dumbass, and MJF needs to grow up and realize the "Kayfabe: 24/7" thing isn't cute.

What I find fairly indisputable though is the damage to MJF's professional reputation. Even if the WWE does want him and does snap him up (which I still find questionable), there's still the problem of:

A. Tony Khan can put him on ice until 2024. I personally wouldn't because I firmly believe anyone should be free to leave a job they hate anytime, but he definitely could.

B. He may get ONE big contract out of WWE, but at the price of burning his bridge pretty much anywhere else. When that one big one is up from WWE, he'll get low-balled.

C. MJF ain't Cody. Cody was/is a sorely needed babyface in a heel dominated WWE, and was a literal executive in AEW. Generational talent or not, they don't need him right now, as much as they may want him.

It really does read like some mental health issues arose and MJF did something erratic and silly.

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May 29, 2022 14:36:54 GMT -5 Raw is Doodie101 said:

May 29, 2022 14:25:52 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

If this is really what happened, then AEW is going to sue WWE into the ground.

And, yes, they’ll be more than willing to “open that can of worms,” even in light of the Jeff Hardy situation.

There’s a major difference between potentially having talked to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and is within the notice period of his contract, and outright inducing MJF to breach his contract with two years left on the deal.

Speculation is rampant, but if that’s truly what happened it won’t be pretty. TK won’t take that lying down.

Then Vince would just sue for the Jeff shit.

Also, I highly doubt anybody from WWE corporate told MJF to do this. They could have just had Cody talk to him like Lebron & Wade before they joined the heat. Pat Riley didn't need to do that directly. Just made sure he had the cap space. Vince wouldn't have to tell MJF anything. Just have the money ready.

Hardy did nothing to violate his contract, MJF is potentially blowing off a contracted date. The NBA analogy doesn't work because the NBA is governed by internal rules, Cody's a WWE employee and he can't be the intermediary because he'd be an official agent of the company. This is the dumbest possible negotiation tactic.

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I feel terrible for the big man Wardlow. I really like him and this is just shitting on his big moment.

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May 29, 2022 14:31:18 GMT -5 jhbboy198917 said:

AEW seemed so “we’re all a family” eight months ago, wonder what went wrong

Is it really "AEW is out of sorts" or is it "MJF went into business for himself?"

Sometimes people make their own decisions and outlooks change. I don't think what MJF is doing means that AEW's backstage or overall mood/morale is a mess, I think MJF is just at this point, risking it all, especially if he doesn't compete tonight.

[Nosnorb]

I feel so bad for Wardlow. This match has been building for the better part of two years, it was one of the biggest storylines in the company and now it looks as though there won't be any payoff. Imagine if Batista had never even faced Triple H in 2005.

Wardlow needed this.

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May 29, 2022 14:35:58 GMT -5 rnrk supports BLM said:

I can't believe this is just about money. Spectacularly burning your bridge with one of the two promoters you're expecting to have a bidding war over your contract kneecaps your own negotiating power.

I don't know if or when it'll ever come out, but I've got to think there's another underlying issue here behind MJF wanting out this badly.

At this point MJF kinda needs another reason because just about all of what's been reported hasn't made him look great, nor does this situation and screwing over fans at a meet and greet.

[Celexa Bliss]

OK, so I will admit it doesn't look good right now. I'm still holding out, since he could always show up closer to bell time. But if he doesn't show up, f*** that guy forever.

[oxbaker]

My best guess on available information is MJF has played his cards — sending his opening salvo by no-showing the meet and greet — and told Tony, ‘If you give me my release in writing effective Monday, I’ll be there and do the job. If not, consider this a holdout.’

So he would be waiting for the paperwork and not arriving at the arena until he has it.

Or it’s a work. Or it isn’t and he’s stuck in traffic. Or he’s going to show up as late as possible to further make his point. Or … something else.