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Post by Legion on May 29, 2022 14:46:32 GMT -5
OK, so I will admit it doesn't look good right now. I'm still holding out, since he could always show up closer to bell time. But if he doesn't show up, f*** that guy forever. Yeah, beginning to actually gawk at the idea this might not be a work and MJF really has managed to work himself in to a shoot and is actually about to try and screw over Tony, Wardlow and all the fans. Honestly didnt see this coming. Genuinely thought this was just going to be a bad idea work. |
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 29, 2022 14:46:56 GMT -5
This doesn't look good. Absolutely inexcusable behaviour by MJF. Put the guy over and go immediately if you want, but he's screwing over Wardlow and in many ways Punk/Hangman by overshadowing their main event.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 29, 2022 14:47:04 GMT -5
My best guess on available information is MJF has played his cards — sending his opening salvo by no-showing the meet and greet — and told Tony, ‘If you give me my release in writing effective Monday, I’ll be there and do the job. If not, consider this a holdout.’ So he would be waiting for the paperwork and not arriving at the arena until he has it. Or it’s a work. Or it isn’t and he’s stuck in traffic. Or he’s going to show up as late as possible to further make his point. Or … something else. None of what MJF is doing really feels to me that he has any leverage, if anything, I really think what he's done and continues to do is killing his leverage... |
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Post by Fake Jesus on May 29, 2022 14:47:23 GMT -5
I feel so bad for Wardlow. This match has been building for the better part of two years, it was one of the biggest storylines in the company and now it looks as though there won't be any payoff. Imagine if Batista had never even faced Triple H in 2005. Wardlow needed this. Wardlow will be fine. He's over as f*** and would gain massive sympathy from the fans if this plays out how it's looking. As for his big moment, there are other ways to get that. |
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Post by Mid-Carder on May 29, 2022 14:48:10 GMT -5
AEW seemed so “we’re all a family” eight months ago, wonder what went wrong Is it really "AEW is out of sorts" or is it "MJF went into business for himself?" Sometimes people make their own decisions and outlooks change. I don't think what MJF is doing means that AEW's backstage or overall mood/morale is a mess, I think MJF is just at this point, risking it all, especially if he doesn't compete tonight. It could be a bit of both rather than one or the other? |
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on May 29, 2022 14:48:22 GMT -5
There was talk earlier in the thread about Vince being a stickler for wresters keeping their scheduled dates. When did that start? I seem to remember Bobby Heenan saying he was the only AWA guy to honor his commitments before going to the WWF.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 29, 2022 14:49:16 GMT -5
I do think now would be a time for a statement to come out. If he’s not in the arena and you’re pulling advertising and hype, you need to say something. I could understand before if negotiations were ongoing, if they even started, but now you need to say something. Especially with the show as soon as it is.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 29, 2022 14:50:04 GMT -5
There was talk earlier in the thread about Vince being a stickler for wresters keeping their scheduled dates. When did that start? I seem to remember Bobby Heenan saying he was the only AWA guy to honor his commitments before going to the WWF. It's a recent history thing with examples like Cesaro & other indy NXT guys/girls. |
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Post by Bo Rida on May 29, 2022 14:50:11 GMT -5
Ugh this is so disappointing, he's been the best thing about the show this year and looked set to have it all over the next year or two.
Now I can't see any scenario which works out from my viewing perspective.
Keeping the big names away from each other as much as possible is wise but I really hope they shift things into gear quicker after this and Cody. Do the matches while you can.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 14:50:30 GMT -5
If this is really what happened, then AEW is going to sue WWE into the ground. And, yes, they’ll be more than willing to “open that can of worms,” even in light of the Jeff Hardy situation. There’s a major difference between potentially having talked to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and is within the notice period of his contract, and outright inducing MJF to breach his contract with two years left on the deal. Speculation is rampant, but if that’s truly what happened it won’t be pretty. TK won’t take that lying down. Then Vince would just sue for the Jeff shit. Also, I highly doubt anybody from WWE corporate told MJF to do this. They could have just had Cody talk to him like Lebron & Wade before they joined the heat. Pat Riley didn't need to do that directly. Just made sure he had the cap space. Vince wouldn't have to tell MJF anything. Just have the money ready. I don’t feel like opening a major legal can of worms, or pull a douchy card, but I’m a contract lawyer. Like I said, there’s a major difference, even if it’s just in measure of damages, between talking to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and in his notice period, and outright inducing MJF to breach a contract that still has 2 years on it. The LeBron/Bosh situation isn’t even remotely within the same stratosphere, because there’s a CBA in the NBA that governs how and when you’re allowed to contact upcoming free agents. That doesn’t exist in wrestling. And, on top of that, even if you want to draw that analogy, MJF isn’t an upcoming free agent. He’s got 2 years left on his deal. |
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Post by spagett on May 29, 2022 14:50:36 GMT -5
There was talk earlier in the thread about Vince being a stickler for wresters keeping their scheduled dates. When did that start? I seem to remember Bobby Heenan saying he was the only AWA guy to honor his commitments before going to the WWF. Like with everything when it comes Vince he seems to change his mind on it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 14:50:36 GMT -5
He’s certainly rolling the dice, this time next year he could be challenging Roman for the big belt or he could be controlling his narrative.
At least he’s in the right city for it.
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Post by Legion on May 29, 2022 14:50:39 GMT -5
There was talk earlier in the thread about Vince being a stickler for wresters keeping their scheduled dates. When did that start? I seem to remember Bobby Heenan saying he was the only AWA guy to honor his commitments before going to the WWF. When he was the leader. Vince was vicious in getting to the top, but once he was there, he was happy to look magnanimous, and now he'd have to be just because everything is so legal. |
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 29, 2022 14:51:29 GMT -5
I do think now would be a time for a statement to come out. If he’s not in the arena and you’re pulling advertising and hype, you need to say something. I could understand before if negotiations were ongoing, if they even started, but now you need to say something. Especially with the show as soon as it is. Agreed! They're working themselves into a situation where they might have to give refunds because they've been promoting this match til basically 7 hours before start time. Need to say something and not play with people's money. |
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Post by Bo Rida on May 29, 2022 14:52:16 GMT -5
I feel so bad for Wardlow. This match has been building for the better part of two years, it was one of the biggest storylines in the company and now it looks as though there won't be any payoff. Imagine if Batista had never even faced Triple H in 2005. Wardlow needed this. Wardlow will be fine. He's over as f*** and would gain massive sympathy from the fans if this plays out how it's looking. As for his big moment, there are other ways to get that. It won't be the same but him destroying everyone involved in the TNT title picture and removing Dan Lambert from our screens would make him the biggest face since Austin was his prime. |
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Post by chrom on May 29, 2022 14:52:21 GMT -5
He’s certainly rolling the dice, this time next year he could be challenging Roman for the big belt or he could be controlling his narrative. At least he’s in the right city for it. Or he could Terminus his career with this |
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Post by spagett on May 29, 2022 14:52:23 GMT -5
I do think now would be a time for a statement to come out. If he’s not in the arena and you’re pulling advertising and hype, you need to say something. I could understand before if negotiations were ongoing, if they even started, but now you need to say something. Especially with the show as soon as it is. Agreed. I can understand no announcement up until now if they were trying to smooth things over and get MJF to wrestle. But if he's not at the show and the match is cancelled they need to tell the fans within the next hour at the very least. |
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 29, 2022 14:52:55 GMT -5
Then Vince would just sue for the Jeff shit. Also, I highly doubt anybody from WWE corporate told MJF to do this. They could have just had Cody talk to him like Lebron & Wade before they joined the heat. Pat Riley didn't need to do that directly. Just made sure he had the cap space. Vince wouldn't have to tell MJF anything. Just have the money ready. I don’t feel like openings major legal can of worms, or pull a douchy card, but I’m a contract lawyer. Like I said, there’s a major difference, even if it’s just in measure of damages, between talking to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and in his notice period, and outright inducing MJF to breach a contract that still has 2 years on it. The LeBron/Bosh situation isn’t even remotely within the same stratosphere, because there’s a CBA in the NBA that governs how and when you’re allowed to contact upcoming free agents. That doesn’t exist in wrestling. And, on top of that, even if you want to draw that analogy, MJF isn’t an upcoming free agent. He’s got 2 years left on his deal. I'm not going to argue with a lawyer. Good to know. I still don't think MJF is doing this with any WWE agreement on the table that's been discussed or talked about with anybody from that company. |
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Post by Legion on May 29, 2022 14:53:10 GMT -5
I do think now would be a time for a statement to come out. If he’s not in the arena and you’re pulling advertising and hype, you need to say something. I could understand before if negotiations were ongoing, if they even started, but now you need to say something. Especially with the show as soon as it is. Agreed! They're working themselves into a situation where they might have to give refunds because they've been promoting this match til basically 7 hours before start time. Need to say something and not play with people's money. "Card Subject to Change" People may point and moralise, but what's good for WWE could be good for Tony here. "Card Subject to Change" means no refunds unless Tony is feeling generous. |
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Post by spagett on May 29, 2022 14:54:08 GMT -5
I do think now would be a time for a statement to come out. If he’s not in the arena and you’re pulling advertising and hype, you need to say something. I could understand before if negotiations were ongoing, if they even started, but now you need to say something. Especially with the show as soon as it is. Agreed! They're working themselves into a situation where they might have to give refunds because they've been promoting this match til basically 7 hours before start time. Need to say something and not play with people's money. Has that ever happened though? Did WWE do refunds for lying about Sasha vs Bianca at Summerslam? |
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