MJF no show AEW Fan Fest

[Raw is Doodie101]

May 29, 2022 14:53:10 GMT -5 Legion said:

May 29, 2022 14:51:29 GMT -5 Raw is Doodie101 said:

Agreed! They're working themselves into a situation where they might have to give refunds because they've been promoting this match til basically 7 hours before start time. Need to say something and not play with people's money.

"Card Subject to Change"

People may point and moralise, but what's good for WWE could be good for Tony here.

"Card Subject to Change" means no refunds unless Tony is feeling generous.

That's very true with the whole Sasha debacle but at least Vince gave the big surprise with Becky. I think the Goldberg "rumor" is stupid but it would at least be something.

[Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED!]

We've been looking at this from a business perspective, but legally speaking there's no version of this that MJF wins.

A: If he no shows then more likely than not he's going to be suspended without pay for the remainder of his contract and/or sued for breach of contract. Ending up in the court room opposite one of the richest men in America is an unenviable situation at the best of times, but even more so when you're there for the most open an shut case in the history of breach of contract.

B: If he forces a new deal out of this one most likely he's fired on the spot afterwards as the contract would be invalid because it was signed under economic duress. After all Tony Khan only agreed to the deal as a result of MJF threatening to breach contract in bad faith. Again open and shut.

Believe me, there will be no sympathy from me if he ruins himself on this one.

[The Ichi]

I wonder if he hasn't shown up to the building yet out of fear for the shit everyone would be giving him, which would be his own fault, but if it's true he suffers from anxiety that would make sense. Hopefully he does show still.

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May 29, 2022 14:49:16 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

I do think now would be a time for a statement to come out. If he’s not in the arena and you’re pulling advertising and hype, you need to say something. I could understand before if negotiations were ongoing, if they even started, but now you need to say something. Especially with the show as soon as it is.

This is very true, too. The absolute worst thing to do, and something that’ll really sour me in AEW, would be to turn this into a Bash at the Beach 2000 situation.

[y4j1981]

May 29, 2022 0:43:17 GMT -5 Lance Uppercut said:

May 28, 2022 22:39:13 GMT -5 mistery said:

I mean keep in mind MJF launched his own crypto coin at one point and ran off with the money (all crypto is a scam to be fair), and people just bought it as him being a heel.

What?!

MJF set up his own bitcoin on Rally.io. To be fair its a site where several celeb and internet figures can set up coins "to interact with fans". Other people on there are like Felicia Day, Portugal the Man, and random youtubers, internet people, etc. Usually there is "rewards" each person can offer, varies by person

Including MJF
rally.io/creator/MJF/

Have to out myself, I own some MJF coin, after first few rewards when he started it, doesn't seem like he remembers bout it anymore

[Nr1Humanoid]

Just when Amber is about to be the new Karen, here comes Maxwell.

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May 29, 2022 14:52:55 GMT -5 Raw is Doodie101 said:

May 29, 2022 14:50:30 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

I don’t feel like openings major legal can of worms, or pull a douchy card, but I’m a contract lawyer.

Like I said, there’s a major difference, even if it’s just in measure of damages, between talking to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and in his notice period, and outright inducing MJF to breach a contract that still has 2 years on it.

The LeBron/Bosh situation isn’t even remotely within the same stratosphere, because there’s a CBA in the NBA that governs how and when you’re allowed to contact upcoming free agents. That doesn’t exist in wrestling. And, on top of that, even if you want to draw that analogy, MJF isn’t an upcoming free agent. He’s got 2 years left on his deal.

I'm not going to argue with a lawyer. Good to know. I still don't think MJF is doing this with any WWE agreement on the table that's been discussed or talked about with anybody from that company.

No, and I seriously wasn’t trying to be an asshole. We don’t know what the contracts say. But, if it turns out to be true that MJF walked out because WWE put a bug in his ear, there’ll be a legal battle. That’s not the kind of thing that’s just going to blow over.

[Chiral]

me rn

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If he's not actually showing uo it's a dick move not to announce before show time.

[Legion]

May 29, 2022 14:54:57 GMT -5 Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! said:

We've been looking at this from a business perspective, but legally speaking there's no version of this that MJF wins.

A: If he no shows then more likely than not he's going to be suspended without pay for the remainder of his contract and/or sued for breach of contract. Ending up in the court room opposite one of the richest men in America is an unenviable situation at the best of times, but even more so when you're there for the most open an shut case in the history of breach of contract.

B: If he forces a new deal out of this one most likely he's fired on the spot afterwards as the contract would be invalid because it was signed under economic duress. After all Tony Khan only agreed to the deal as a result of MJF threatening to breach contract in bad faith. Again open and shut.

Believe me, there will be no sympathy from me if he ruins himself on this one.

Well, we dont know what his contract looks like, much like anyone else, we assume and we pick things up from others and Newz, but none of us have ever had an AEW or a WWE talent contract.

Lord knows what are in those things.

I'd assume he has an agent with some degree of legal knowledge giving him advice over what he's doing here, if indeed, he is doing something here.

[oxbaker]

MFJ should show up where the meet and greet was supposed to take place yesterday and just say he got his schedule confused.

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Equating what Sasha/Naomi did to what MJF is evidently doing is laughable and brainless lmao.

I'm all for MJF doing what he thinks is best for him but their contracts actually mean something and this is right before the company's most worked on (lmao) moment. I wish the best for all three of them but if this isn't a work, it is insanely shortsighted and selfish as f***.

[oxbaker]

May 29, 2022 14:47:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 29, 2022 14:45:54 GMT -5 oxbaker said:

My best guess on available information is MJF has played his cards — sending his opening salvo by no-showing the meet and greet — and told Tony, ‘If you give me my release in writing effective Monday, I’ll be there and do the job. If not, consider this a holdout.’

So he would be waiting for the paperwork and not arriving at the arena until he has it.

Or it’s a work. Or it isn’t and he’s stuck in traffic. Or he’s going to show up as late as possible to further make his point. Or … something else.

None of what MJF is doing really feels to me that he has any leverage, if anything, I really think what he's done and continues to do is killing his leverage...

His leverage would be ‘if you want me to show up and do the job tonight, give me my release.’ Tony would have to make a choice. Or at least call his bluff.

[The Captain]

This whole situation makes me respect Cody a lot more. He went above and beyond to put Sammy over on the way out. He even worked a risky match he definitely didn't have to do after his contract expired as a free agent.

It's why I can't really buy him being in mjf's ear encouraging this. He and Tony Khan are apparently still on amicable terms and this sort of stunt is the antithesis of the kind of work ethic Cody has had his entire career.

[asuka007]

TK: “Or, I could put Wardlow in the title match and perhaps have him win. And he’d be an even bigger star by the end.”

[Legion]

Have we seen a situation like this since Warrior at Summerslam '91?

I know Jarrett held Vince up for cash to work a show out of contract, but an under contract hold up like this?

[Raw is Doodie101]

Tony should put the belt on Wardlow tonight. He has massive sympathy and he'd become a star tonight. Plus it would be the first big WTF moment for AEW that wasn't a new signing or a big return. A Goldberg/Brock at SS 2017 where it's like OMG I can't believe that just happened. It would help Wardlow. It would help the company and it would be a big FU to MJF.

[spagett]

I wouldn't be putting the World title on Wardlow.

The big thing with a babyface world champ is the chase, that's the compelling thing. Just hotshotting the title onto takes that away, plus he's not ready in my opinion.

One of the problems with Big E's title reign was him winning via cash in. There was no story, no big build up.

Now having him win the TNT title somehow? That I could get behind.

[Feargus McReddit]

May 29, 2022 15:05:59 GMT -5 The Captain said:

This whole situation makes me respect Cody a lot more. He went above and beyond to put Sammy over on the way out. He even worked a risky match he definitely didn't have to do after his contract expired as a free agent.

It's why I can't really buy him being in mjf's ear encouraging this. He and Tony Khan are apparently still on amicable terms and this sort of stunt is the antithesis of the kind of work ethic Cody has had his entire career.

I can’t, either. If anything, the way he went out is something that rarely happens in wrestling. Super amicable, respectful and appreciative of the contributions both sides made to their careers. There are wrestling retirements with less class.

I’d say Cody would be annoyed with all this going on right now.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Unless there are ongoing talks that we aren't aware of, I'd expect a statement soon given all we've seen. It really doesn't feel like the match is gonna happen right now, unless we get a last second miracle.