MJF no show AEW Fan Fest

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honestly don't think mjf is probably listening to anyone except likely vince

dude probably contacted him and there's a mutual agreement to attempt to f*** aew over lmao

[Nr1Humanoid]

May 29, 2022 14:59:56 GMT -5 oxbaker said:

May 29, 2022 14:47:04 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

None of what MJF is doing really feels to me that he has any leverage, if anything, I really think what he's done and continues to do is killing his leverage...

His leverage would be ‘if you want me to show up and do the job tonight, give me my release.’ Tony would have to make a choice. Or at least call his bluff.

Give me my release. Talk about mirroring his current storyline.

[chrom]

Doors open in about 2 hours

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May 29, 2022 15:12:18 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

honestly don't think mjf is probably listening to anyone except likely vince

dude probably contacted him and there's a mutual agreement to attempt to f*** aew over lmao

That's literally contract tampering, like... quite literally that'd be illegal.

[Facetious]

Per fightful

Date MJF's Contract Is Said To Be Up.

MJF's contract is set to come up in 2024, but Fightful has specifically learned when the deal is up.

January 1, 2024 is the date of expiration for the MJF AEW contract, according to sources close to MJF himself. MJF had originally signed with the company in 2019, but signed an extension that significantly increased his salary over the amount he'd signed for. However, since then, MJF has felt like he's drastically outperformed even that deal and had expressed his frustration with his AEW contract. This led to he and Tony Khan butting heads in early April, leading to much of the drama that has unfolded this weekend.

It's worth noting that multiple times this year, talent and AEW haven't quite been on the same page as it pertains to when their deals are officially up, and this info came from people close to MJF. 

MJF has been advertised for tonight's AEW Double or Nothing against Wardlow. 

[Feargus McReddit]

May 29, 2022 15:11:14 GMT -5 spagett said:

Now having him win the TNT title somehow? That I could get behind.

I’d say have a clause in the contract where Wardlow can be put in a title match if his opponent is unavailable (because, as established, Mark Sterling is an idiot), change the six person to a 4 way (saving PVZ’s debut for the Forum), have Wardlow win and kick start the TNT title again with open challenges and build someone to go toe to toe.

[Raw is Doodie101]

May 29, 2022 15:12:18 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

honestly don't think mjf is probably listening to anyone except likely vince

dude probably contacted him and there's a mutual agreement to attempt to f*** aew over lmao

I just don't see it. That's such a big risk. Vince likes to gamble and do some slimy shit but he usually tries to be careful where Jerry can handle it. He'd be risking too much to do that.

[spagett]

May 29, 2022 15:11:58 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

May 29, 2022 15:05:59 GMT -5 The Captain said:

This whole situation makes me respect Cody a lot more. He went above and beyond to put Sammy over on the way out. He even worked a risky match he definitely didn't have to do after his contract expired as a free agent.

It's why I can't really buy him being in mjf's ear encouraging this. He and Tony Khan are apparently still on amicable terms and this sort of stunt is the antithesis of the kind of work ethic Cody has had his entire career.

I can’t, either. If anything, the way he went out is something that rarely happens in wrestling. Super amicable, respectful and appreciative of the contributions both sides made to their careers. There are wrestling retirements with less class.

I’d say Cody would be annoyed with all this going on right now.

I am sure Cody has been talking MJF up so something like this makes him look bad.

Plus by all accounts Cody is a real mentor to Wardlow and they're still very close, he can't be happy with his friend being completely f***ed over by MJF.

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May 29, 2022 15:14:31 GMT -5 Raw is Doodie101 said:

May 29, 2022 15:12:18 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

honestly don't think mjf is probably listening to anyone except likely vince

dude probably contacted him and there's a mutual agreement to attempt to f*** aew over lmao

I just don't see it. That's such a big risk. Vince likes to gamble and do some slimy shit but he usually tries to be careful where Jerry can handle it. He'd be risking too much to do that.

It is a massive risk but none of this makes any sense. MJF isn't stupid, he has to have some sort of guarantee, however super illegal. Otherwise he just throwing his career straight down the drain when he was arguably at the top.

[Kalmia]

I wonder if AEW has been able to get in contact with MJF yet or if he's still ignoring the calls. I'm sure WWE would still sign MJF and is probably enjoying the chaos, but at the same time, someone willing to walk out on one company has a higher chance of walking out another. Vince has to be aware of that.

[Legion]

May 29, 2022 15:12:18 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

honestly don't think mjf is probably listening to anyone except likely vince

dude probably contacted him and there's a mutual agreement to attempt to f*** aew over lmao

Vince isnt that dumb.

If he condones this, even by hiring MJF quickly, he opens the door to Tony doing this back, or to talent just trying it on their own.

There a many more unhappy people in WWE than AEW, and frankly, Tony has a much bigger wallet than Vince if Vince really wanted to play that game.

He wont. Vince is a carny, but he isnt totally dumb and he's been playing this game a very long time.

[Facetious]

May 29, 2022 15:14:31 GMT -5 Raw is Doodie101 said:

May 29, 2022 15:12:18 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

honestly don't think mjf is probably listening to anyone except likely vince

dude probably contacted him and there's a mutual agreement to attempt to f*** aew over lmao

I just don't see it. That's such a big risk. Vince likes to gamble and do some slimy shit but he usually tries to be careful where Jerry can handle it. He'd be risking too much to do that.

Vince himself would never, but the company has recently tampered with ROH contracts that stopped KOR and a few others from signing back in 2017. That being said, I don't think WWE is pulling any strings, I think MJF is just acting out after hitting his breaking point.

[chrom]

May 29, 2022 15:16:19 GMT -5 Legion said:

May 29, 2022 15:12:18 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

honestly don't think mjf is probably listening to anyone except likely vince

dude probably contacted him and there's a mutual agreement to attempt to f*** aew over lmao

Vince isnt that dumb.

If he condones this, even by hiring MJF quickly, he opens the door to Tony doing this back, or to talent just trying it on their own.

There a many more unhappy people in WWE than AEW, and frankly, Tony has a much bigger wallet than Vince if Vince really wanted to play that game.

He wont. Vince is a carny, but he isnt totally dumb and he's been playing this game a very long time.

He's arrogant and narcissistic yes, but not dumb enough to pull a stunt like that

[lionheart21]

May 29, 2022 15:05:59 GMT -5 The Captain said:

This whole situation makes me respect Cody a lot more. He went above and beyond to put Sammy over on the way out. He even worked a risky match he definitely didn't have to do after his contract expired as a free agent.

It's why I can't really buy him being in mjf's ear encouraging this. He and Tony Khan are apparently still on amicable terms and this sort of stunt is the antithesis of the kind of work ethic Cody has had his entire career.

Completely agree. Cody showed the absolutely correct way to leave (putting a talent over and leaving on good terms to gamble on a run in the WWE), whereas MJF is looking to be a shining example of how to potentially sabotage a promising career (his own and Wardlow’s) and absolutely napalm the bridge between himself and AEW.

[Facetious]

May 29, 2022 15:15:25 GMT -5 spagett said:

May 29, 2022 15:11:58 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

I can’t, either. If anything, the way he went out is something that rarely happens in wrestling. Super amicable, respectful and appreciative of the contributions both sides made to their careers. There are wrestling retirements with less class.

I’d say Cody would be annoyed with all this going on right now.

I am sure Cody has been talking MJF up so something like this makes him look bad.

Plus by all accounts Cody is a real mentor to Wardlow and they're still very close, he can't be happy with his friend being completely f***ed over by MJF.

Cody should be used to this by now! His heel MJF turned on him 2 years ago!

[The Captain]

May 29, 2022 15:15:25 GMT -5 spagett said:

May 29, 2022 15:11:58 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

I can’t, either. If anything, the way he went out is something that rarely happens in wrestling. Super amicable, respectful and appreciative of the contributions both sides made to their careers. There are wrestling retirements with less class.

I’d say Cody would be annoyed with all this going on right now.

I am sure Cody has been talking MJF up so something like this makes him look bad.

Plus by all accounts Cody is a real mentor to Wardlow and they're still very close, he can't be happy with his friend being completely f***ed over by MJF.

I know wrestlers have short memories when it comes to business, but this could really hurt the chances of Wardlow jumping ship to WWE if MJF is there. Especially if this is some shady effort, I know I wouldn't want to work somewhere that was in cahoots to ruin a career-defining moment.

That's also why I can't see this as something WWE is doing even through proxies and it's more likely that MJF is going into business for himself. Unless Vince has just completely lost his mind.

[spagett]

May 29, 2022 15:22:10 GMT -5 The Captain said:

May 29, 2022 15:15:25 GMT -5 spagett said:

I am sure Cody has been talking MJF up so something like this makes him look bad.

Plus by all accounts Cody is a real mentor to Wardlow and they're still very close, he can't be happy with his friend being completely f***ed over by MJF.

I know wrestlers have short memories when it comes to business, but this could really hurt the chances of Wardlow jumping ship to WWE if MJF is there. Especially if this is some shady effort, I know I wouldn't want to work somewhere that was in cahoots to ruin a career-defining moment.

That's also why I can't see this as something WWE is doing even through proxies and it's more likely that MJF is going into business for himself. Unless Vince has just completely lost his mind.

Wardlow has been mentioned a ton too as a guy WWE is very interested in signing.

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You have to remember though the rules are different now. The WWE stans and staff will celebrate MJF coming over, no matter the context, because that's a win. AEW's simple existence has helped WWE with a certain group of tossers simply by existing

[asuka007]

May 29, 2022 15:11:14 GMT -5 spagett said:

I wouldn't be putting the World title on Wardlow.

The big thing with a babyface world champ is the chase, that's the compelling thing. Just hotshotting the title onto takes that away, plus he's not ready in my opinion.

One of the problems with Big E's title reign was him winning via cash in. There was no story, no big build up.

Now having him win the TNT title somehow? That I could get behind.

Sometimes you’re presented with an unexpected opportunity and just need to run with it. Sometimes you just take a chance and see what happens.

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May 29, 2022 14:58:03 GMT -5 Legion said:

May 29, 2022 14:54:57 GMT -5 Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! said:

We've been looking at this from a business perspective, but legally speaking there's no version of this that MJF wins.

A: If he no shows then more likely than not he's going to be suspended without pay for the remainder of his contract and/or sued for breach of contract. Ending up in the court room opposite one of the richest men in America is an unenviable situation at the best of times, but even more so when you're there for the most open an shut case in the history of breach of contract.

B: If he forces a new deal out of this one most likely he's fired on the spot afterwards as the contract would be invalid because it was signed under economic duress. After all Tony Khan only agreed to the deal as a result of MJF threatening to breach contract in bad faith. Again open and shut.

Believe me, there will be no sympathy from me if he ruins himself on this one.

Well, we dont know what his contract looks like, much like anyone else, we assume and we pick things up from others and Newz, but none of us have ever had an AEW or a WWE talent contract.

Lord knows what are in those things.

I'd assume he has an agent with some degree of legal knowledge giving him advice over what he's doing here, if indeed, he is doing something here.

But is his attorney going to be able to outmaneuver the lawyers of Tony Khan in court? With the kind of money he has I'm pretty sure Tony can afford the kind of lawyers who could convince a jury that MJF was behind the deaths of Biggie and Tupac even if he was just born when it happened.