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Post by oxbaker on May 29, 2022 15:30:06 GMT -5
If MJF walks, AEW can suspend Samoa Joe for no-showing the meet and greet and hotshot Wardlow into the Owen final to put over Cole. /s
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Post by clifford on May 29, 2022 15:30:23 GMT -5
Can we get Wardlow and Takeshita beating the ever loving shit out of each other if this MJF match isn't going ahead? PLEASE?
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Post by chrom on May 29, 2022 15:30:24 GMT -5
Think I'll play Kirby and The Forgotten Land until this all blows over
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Post by The Ichi on May 29, 2022 15:30:49 GMT -5
Honestly even though he has a lot of sympathy right now, I think just putting the belt on Wardlow tonight runs the risk of fans turning on him.
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Post by chrom on May 29, 2022 15:30:56 GMT -5
If MJF walks, AEW can suspend Samoa Joe for no-showing the meet and greet and hotshot Wardlow into the Owen final to put over Cole. /s Why do that just so Cole can win? |
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Post by lionheart21 on May 29, 2022 15:31:07 GMT -5
Well, we dont know what his contract looks like, much like anyone else, we assume and we pick things up from others and Newz, but none of us have ever had an AEW or a WWE talent contract. Lord knows what are in those things. I'd assume he has an agent with some degree of legal knowledge giving him advice over what he's doing here, if indeed, he is doing something here. But is his attorney going to be able to outmaneuver the lawyers of Tony Khan in court? With the kind of money he has I'm pretty sure Tony can afford the kind of lawyers who could convince a jury that MJF was behind the deaths of Biggie and Tupac even if he was just born when it happened. I’m imagining that scene in The Simpsons where Mr Burns reveals his army of lawyers to Lionel Hutz and now I’m imagining that same scenario except with Mark Sterling as Hutz. |
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Post by Legion on May 29, 2022 15:31:12 GMT -5
Well, we dont know what his contract looks like, much like anyone else, we assume and we pick things up from others and Newz, but none of us have ever had an AEW or a WWE talent contract. Lord knows what are in those things. I'd assume he has an agent with some degree of legal knowledge giving him advice over what he's doing here, if indeed, he is doing something here. But is his attorney going to be able to outmaneuver the lawyers of Tony Khan in court? With the kind of money he has I'm pretty sure Tony can afford the kind of lawyers who could convince a jury that MJF was behind the deaths of Biggie and Tupac even if he was just born when it happened. Oh, I'm not saying they would at all, but I am assuming there is some sort of grey area somewhere in the contract, or the extension more likely, that is giving them a reason to think they can do this and not end up in court like that. Or this is a work. Or MJF is just unhinged. |
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Post by oxbaker on May 29, 2022 15:32:36 GMT -5
If MJF walks, AEW can suspend Samoa Joe for no-showing the meet and greet and hotshot Wardlow into the Owen final to put over Cole. /s Why do that just so Cole can win? It’s a joke. Hence the /s (A lot of people have been cringe about the possibility of Britt and Cole winning the Owen.) |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 15:32:53 GMT -5
Longer we go without a statement the more I fear this is related to his personal life and AEW are concerned about his privacy or are unsure how to handle it as are in uncharted waters.
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Post by oxbaker on May 29, 2022 15:35:08 GMT -5
Amazing the amount of people posting about WWE tampering and court cases as if that’s even been remotely alleged.
As if MJF couldn’t go into business for himself.
And there are plenty of legal ways without tampering that a company can let them know they’re interested in a talent — by leaking it to a dirtsheet (and there have been reports). I remember in the early days of AEW, Daniels or maybe one of the Bucks or other mentioned interest in talent in other companies publicly and someone had to walk it back.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 29, 2022 15:35:56 GMT -5
Longer we go without a statement the more I fear this is related to his personal life and AEW are concerned about his privacy or are unsure how to handle it as are in uncharted waters. At this point a simple "MJF will not be at the show tonight", and maybe a "a replacement opponent for Wardlow will be announced" would be a big help. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 29, 2022 15:37:27 GMT -5
Amazing the amount of people posting about WWE tampering and court cases as if that’s even been remotely alleged. As if MJF couldn’t go into business for himself. And there are plenty of legal ways without tampering that a company can let them know they’re interested in a talent — by leaking it to a dirtsheet (and there have been reports). I remember in the early days of AEW, Daniels or maybe one of the Bucks or other mentioned interest in talent in other companies publicly and someone had to walk it back. That's because if MJF is choosing to go into business for himself without at least a WWE intermediary saying "here's how much we would pay you if you were free today", he's even dumber than he now seems. |
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Post by Mike Strike on May 29, 2022 15:38:28 GMT -5
MJF comes out and lays down in The middle of the ring, giving Wardlow the quick win so he can get out of there. Wardlow instead power bombs him 20 times.
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Post by nate5054 on May 29, 2022 15:38:29 GMT -5
I just think it's complete madness by MJF. If he'd stayed in AEW until 2024, encouraged the bidding war then signed with WWE he'd have made huge money and left AEW on decent terms. Then in WWE if it doesn't go as well as he hoped, and there's no guarantee he'd be a success in WWE with his size and the fact he wouldn't be given free reign on the mic, he'd always be able to go back to AEW. But if he has walked out he's totally burned his bridges with AEW and put all his eggs on being treated well by Vince and WWE. It's one hell of a risky gamble. The other thing is, if MJF had done things the proper way, and gone to WWE when his deal expired, I’d be rooting for him to absolutely blow the world away and kill it in WWE. Just like Cody. If this is really playing out like is being speculated, I hope he f***ing flops in WWE and is cutting promos about suffering succotashes and jobbing to Madcap Moss. Within the year. Like, seriously, f*** that guy. If he’s leaving like this, I wish him nothing but the worst and professional failure in his career. I won’t be the only one who feels that way. And not in a way that helps his heel wrestling character. In a way that, like, I will never watch another show with MJF on it because I don’t want to support this kind of unprofessional behavior. I agree, which is a shame because before this mess he was one of my favorites in all of pro wrestling. It's one thing to be hated, but when you accomplish it by being this unprofessional, it's not a good kind of hate. |
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Post by The Captain on May 29, 2022 15:44:07 GMT -5
Amazing the amount of people posting about WWE tampering and court cases as if that’s even been remotely alleged. As if MJF couldn’t go into business for himself. And there are plenty of legal ways without tampering that a company can let them know they’re interested in a talent — by leaking it to a dirtsheet (and there have been reports). I remember in the early days of AEW, Daniels or maybe one of the Bucks or other mentioned interest in talent in other companies publicly and someone had to walk it back. That's because if MJF is choosing to go into business for himself without at least a WWE intermediary saying "here's how much we would pay you if you were free today", he's even dumber than he now seems. If this is related to mental health problems as some have suggested, such things can make you do really irrational and, on the surface, really stupid and self-destructive things. I'd almost prefer it being MJF going into business for himself as opposed to having a mental health crisis. |
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Post by cornettesracket on May 29, 2022 15:45:16 GMT -5
This is such a mess. I mean MJF is one of the best things in wrestling and his feud with wardlow has been 24 carat gold, and given how good he is I expected him to be smarter then this but from what’s transpired over the past few hours, maybe my faith in him was misplaced. I mean what the actual f*** is he thinking ? I also don’t buy that WWE have a hand in this, because yes they are many things but even you’d think they’d be smarter than that to touch this mess. I’m actually slightly stunned.
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Post by nate5054 on May 29, 2022 15:48:00 GMT -5
None of what MJF is doing really feels to me that he has any leverage, if anything, I really think what he's done and continues to do is killing his leverage... His leverage would be ‘if you want me to show up and do the job tonight, give me my release.’ Tony would have to make a choice. Or at least call his bluff. If that 's really his play, I hope Khan doesn't do it. The best idea I've heard is to create some mumbo jumbo about how Khan saw a flaw in Wardlow's contract with MJF because Mark Sterling sucks as a lawyer, Khan is hiring him on the spot and first match is being for the TNT title tonight vs Sammy and Sky. He then goes and obliterates both and bam, not just a new TNT champ and a great moment, but one that people will actually give a f*** about and also end that horrible never ending feud between Sky |
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Post by Fake Jesus on May 29, 2022 15:49:38 GMT -5
That's because if MJF is choosing to go into business for himself without at least a WWE intermediary saying "here's how much we would pay you if you were free today", he's even dumber than he now seems. If this is related to mental health problems as some have suggested, such things can make you do really irrational and, on the surface, really stupid and self-destructive things. I'd almost prefer it being MJF going into business for himself as opposed to having a mental health crisis. I don't know, if you have a mental health episode that doesn't lead to some catastrophic outcome it's probably possible to walk it back, whereas if you're just a f***ing dickhead (Speaking from experience) that's going to be much harder. Especially these days when going insane is more or less socially accepted unless you hit the 'Dominos pizza drivers want to replace me with a Zimbabwean immigrant' threshold |
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Post by The Captain on May 29, 2022 15:51:37 GMT -5
If this is related to mental health problems as some have suggested, such things can make you do really irrational and, on the surface, really stupid and self-destructive things. I'd almost prefer it being MJF going into business for himself as opposed to having a mental health crisis. I don't know, if you have a mental health episode that doesn't lead to some catastrophic outcome it's probably possible to walk it back, whereas if you're just a f***ing dickhead (Speaking from experience) that's going to be much harder. Especially these days when going insane is more or less socially accepted unless you hit the 'Dominos pizza drivers want to replace me with a Zimbabwean immigrant' threshold The catastrophic outcome is what I'm worried about, yes. |
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Post by nate5054 on May 29, 2022 15:52:32 GMT -5
I know wrestlers have short memories when it comes to business, but this could really hurt the chances of Wardlow jumping ship to WWE if MJF is there. Especially if this is some shady effort, I know I wouldn't want to work somewhere that was in cahoots to ruin a career-defining moment. That's also why I can't see this as something WWE is doing even through proxies and it's more likely that MJF is going into business for himself. Unless Vince has just completely lost his mind. Wardlow has been mentioned a ton too as a guy WWE is very interested in signing. They should be interested. It's hard to think of someone lately who is such a can't miss prospect. He reminds me of a 2020s Diesel. Which I guess some people could take as a negative, but I don't. Plus I think he'll end up being better than Nash when all is said and done. |
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