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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 15:52:51 GMT -5
Useless tidbit but would AEW retire the whole "Ring" gimmick they have done for three years? Seems like they only had it just for the one guy and had no intention of letting anyone else win.
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Post by Hypnosis on May 29, 2022 15:55:03 GMT -5
Useless tidbit but would AEW retire the whole "Ring" gimmick they have done for three years? Seems like they only had it just for the one guy and had no intention of letting anyone else win. I'd have to think so, since MJF regularly used it as his signature weapon. |
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Post by nate5054 on May 29, 2022 15:55:33 GMT -5
Useless tidbit but would AEW retire the whole "Ring" gimmick they have done for three years? Seems like they only had it just for the one guy and had no intention of letting anyone else win. I hope not. Not that I think it's a great gimmick of anything, but if MJF ends up going out like this, even with some dumb gimmick "title," why let it be known that he was the only one to win it. |
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Post by oxbaker on May 29, 2022 15:56:43 GMT -5
Amazing the amount of people posting about WWE tampering and court cases as if that’s even been remotely alleged. As if MJF couldn’t go into business for himself. And there are plenty of legal ways without tampering that a company can let them know they’re interested in a talent — by leaking it to a dirtsheet (and there have been reports). I remember in the early days of AEW, Daniels or maybe one of the Bucks or other mentioned interest in talent in other companies publicly and someone had to walk it back. That's because if MJF is choosing to go into business for himself without at least a WWE intermediary saying "here's how much we would pay you if you were free today", he's even dumber than he now seems. Or he’s betting on himself. Cody left WWE without any assurances of anything in another promotion. AJ Styles left Impact without any other deals. It happens. |
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Post by oxbaker on May 29, 2022 15:59:46 GMT -5
His leverage would be ‘if you want me to show up and do the job tonight, give me my release.’ Tony would have to make a choice. Or at least call his bluff. If that 's really his play, I hope Khan doesn't do it. The best idea I've heard is to create some mumbo jumbo about how Khan saw a flaw in Wardlow's contract with MJF because Mark Sterling sucks as a lawyer, Khan is hiring him on the spot and first match is being for the TNT title tonight vs Sammy and Sky. He then goes and obliterates both and bam, not just a new TNT champ and a great moment, but one that people will actually give a f*** about and also end that horrible never ending feud between Sky You don’t even need the lawyer thing. Ring the bell and have the ref start counting. Creates a suspenseful moment while people hold their breath to see if MJF is going to come out. When he doesn’t the ref holds up Wardlow’s hand as the winner and he’s free from MJF’s bonds and there’s a huge pop. If they could find a way to end the TNT belt loop we’ve been on with this horrible angle, all the better. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 29, 2022 16:00:52 GMT -5
That Fightful update is interesting. I didn't know MJF had already received an extension and salary bump since signing his first contract with the company. There has to be more to why he's unhappy. Even if he thinks he should earn more, you would think that original extension would've built some level of trust and goodwill.
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Post by lildude8218 on May 29, 2022 16:01:36 GMT -5
*5 minutes into Tony Khan's shoot promo*
TK: THAT BALD HEADED SON OF A BITCH
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Post by jhbboy198917 on May 29, 2022 16:03:31 GMT -5
I 100000% believe that there are people over in AEW, the long-tenured ones that were there before the great talent infusion of 2021, who feel as certain way about these people coming in, taking spots and pushing them back. They just aren’t as loud about it as MJF.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on May 29, 2022 16:04:40 GMT -5
Longer we go without a statement the more I fear this is related to his personal life and AEW are concerned about his privacy or are unsure how to handle it as are in uncharted waters. That’s bothering me as well. Work, shoot, or otherwise, somebody needs to say something. Especially since it involves paying fans. |
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Post by Fake Jesus on May 29, 2022 16:05:57 GMT -5
That's because if MJF is choosing to go into business for himself without at least a WWE intermediary saying "here's how much we would pay you if you were free today", he's even dumber than he now seems. Or he’s betting on himself. Cody left WWE without any assurances of anything in another promotion. AJ Styles left Impact without any other deals. It happens. There's a difference between betting on yourself and being slow in the brain. MJF doesn't have outside prospects like Sasha Banks or millions in the bank like CM Punk. If he no-shows his options are working the indies or an off-peak WWE offer for the next decade+, and we have no real data to suggest Khan is as open to burying the hatchet if there's money to be made as McMahon often is |
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Post by Bo Rida on May 29, 2022 16:05:58 GMT -5
Useless tidbit but would AEW retire the whole "Ring" gimmick they have done for three years? Seems like they only had it just for the one guy and had no intention of letting anyone else win. I think Billy Gunn should find it in the trash and gift it to his new son, Max Caster. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 29, 2022 16:06:42 GMT -5
I 100000% believe that there are people over in AEW, the long-tenured ones that were there before the great talent infusion of 2021, who feel as certain way about these people coming in, taking spots and pushing them back. They just aren’t as loud about it as MJF. MJF wasn't even being pushed back, is the thing, dude had two of the best feuds in wrestling this year, that's not even a debate he just did, with one of those people who came in. If this were like, Sonny Kiss? Yeah, sure, but if MJF is complaining about his spot, that's absurd imo, he's been one of the most featured men in the company, and has one of the lightest in-ring schedules of ANY of them. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 29, 2022 16:06:53 GMT -5
That's because if MJF is choosing to go into business for himself without at least a WWE intermediary saying "here's how much we would pay you if you were free today", he's even dumber than he now seems. Or he’s betting on himself. Cody left WWE without any assurances of anything in another promotion. AJ Styles left Impact without any other deals. It happens. Cody and Styles finished their deals and then let their respective companies know they would not be re-signing. Do you really not see the distinction? |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 29, 2022 16:11:30 GMT -5
Longer we go without a statement the more I fear this is related to his personal life and AEW are concerned about his privacy or are unsure how to handle it as are in uncharted waters. That’s bothering me as well. Work, shoot, or otherwise, somebody needs to say something. Especially since it involves paying fans. The thing that bothers me is no one is apparently in contact with MJF? Like we've heard statements from people close to him about stuff that's already happened, but have we heard one clean cut update about what's happening right now, where he is right now, or why he definitely skipped out? All we know is he was physically fine last night, he did not get on that red eye plane, and his phone is on but he's not picking it up, as far as I've seen. The whole "He was at the casino" thing was even fan reports, not a confirmation. So yeah, I would hope he's ok mentally. If it comes out to be that, this would definitely take a major turn in terms of how the fans are taking it right now. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 16:11:42 GMT -5
Well one thing is for sure it has made tonights show all the more intriguiging whether good or bad.
But I so want the situation to be WWE got caught contract tampering here so TK just goes all f*** it tit for tat and just brings in Sasha and possibly Naomi regardless of their contract situation in the E.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on May 29, 2022 16:12:16 GMT -5
The preview video is back up on Youtube
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Post by One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs on May 29, 2022 16:12:40 GMT -5
We've been looking at this from a business perspective, but legally speaking there's no version of this that MJF wins. A: If he no shows then more likely than not he's going to be suspended without pay for the remainder of his contract and/or sued for breach of contract. Ending up in the court room opposite one of the richest men in America is an unenviable situation at the best of times, but even more so when you're there for the most open an shut case in the history of breach of contract. B: If he forces a new deal out of this one most likely he's fired on the spot afterwards as the contract would be invalid because it was signed under economic duress. After all Tony Khan only agreed to the deal as a result of MJF threatening to breach contract in bad faith. Again open and shut. Believe me, there will be no sympathy from me if he ruins himself on this one. Well, we dont know what his contract looks like, much like anyone else, we assume and we pick things up from others and Newz, but none of us have ever had an AEW or a WWE talent contract. Lord knows what are in those things. I'd assume he has an agent with some degree of legal knowledge giving him advice over what he's doing here, if indeed, he is doing something here. There isn't an employment lawyer on the planet that would advise someone to so blatantly violate both their contract and good will with as little leverage as MJF has, simply as a negotiation tactic. This is a nuclear option that would've been risky if tonight was his last contracted date, with 19 months left this might be career suicide. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 29, 2022 16:15:04 GMT -5
The preview video is back up on Youtube We oh so badly need a statement, and soon, doors open in less than an hour lol |
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Post by Chiral on May 29, 2022 16:15:08 GMT -5
Well, we dont know what his contract looks like, much like anyone else, we assume and we pick things up from others and Newz, but none of us have ever had an AEW or a WWE talent contract. Lord knows what are in those things. I'd assume he has an agent with some degree of legal knowledge giving him advice over what he's doing here, if indeed, he is doing something here. There isn't an employment lawyer on the planet that would advise someone to so blatantly violate both their contract and good will with as little leverage as MJF has, simply as a negotiation tactic. This is a nuclear option that would've been risky if tonight was his last contracted date, with 19 months left this might be career suicide. MJF if he gambles his whole career on advice from his legal team:  |
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Post by stoptheclocks on May 29, 2022 16:16:29 GMT -5
The most logical explanation based on what we know is that it is a work aimed at drumming up interest in the PPV. Which it has done fairly successfully.
But we'll know in six hours or so.
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