MJF no show AEW Fan Fest

[The Warthog]

I think this is all a gigantic work on MJF's part. It's getting the fans to talk. Possibly more to purchase DoN. I just did.

[06vwgti]

May 29, 2022 16:12:16 GMT -5 Celexa Bliss said:

The preview video is back up on Youtube

My head continues to spin lol

[clifford]

I will reiterate: wrestling is f***ing exhausting man. I'm wiped and the ppv hasn't even started lol

[oxbaker]

May 29, 2022 16:05:57 GMT -5 Fake Jesus said:

May 29, 2022 15:56:43 GMT -5 oxbaker said:

Or he’s betting on himself.

Cody left WWE without any assurances of anything in another promotion.

AJ Styles left Impact without any other deals.

It happens.

There's a difference between betting on yourself and being slow in the brain. MJF doesn't have outside prospects like Sasha Banks or millions in the bank like CM Punk. If he no-shows his options are working the indies or an off-peak WWE offer for the next decade+, and we have no real data to suggest Khan is as open to burying the hatchet if there's money to be made as McMahon often is

1) If he’s not happy in AEW, he shouldn’t work there. Same as if someone is unhappy at Burger King or at a top executive position at Amazon. Money may not be the driving force here, but …

2) You’re comparing what he’d making in WWE vs. what he *might* make if he waits til 2024 (and if he’s unhappy he might want want to live miserably for 18 months). He might be comparing what he thinks he’ll get there vs. what he actually is making right now — and that would probably be more.

[Kalmia]

I don't think AEW will say anything if the match is going to happen as scheduled. They'll only issue a statement if it's called off. AEW won't want to acknowledge this publicly at all and saying a match is still on and will go ahead is acknowledging that something has happened.

[oxbaker]

May 29, 2022 16:06:42 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 29, 2022 16:03:31 GMT -5 jhbboy198917 said:

I 100000% believe that there are people over in AEW, the long-tenured ones that were there before the great talent infusion of 2021, who feel as certain way about these people coming in, taking spots and pushing them back. They just aren’t as loud about it as MJF.

MJF wasn't even being pushed back, is the thing, dude had two of the best feuds in wrestling this year, that's not even a debate he just did, with one of those people who came in.

If this were like, Sonny Kiss? Yeah, sure, but if MJF is complaining about his spot, that's absurd imo, he's been one of the most featured men in the company, and has one of the lightest in-ring schedules of ANY of them.

Yeah but if you’re being pushed as a top guy and doing duty as a top guy and you’re being paid like Sonny Kiss, that might make you unhappy.

[oxbaker]

They need to sell Tony’s post-PPV media scrum as a PPV. They could probably set records.

[kingoftheindies]

May 29, 2022 16:18:44 GMT -5 oxbaker said:

May 29, 2022 16:05:57 GMT -5 Fake Jesus said:

There's a difference between betting on yourself and being slow in the brain. MJF doesn't have outside prospects like Sasha Banks or millions in the bank like CM Punk. If he no-shows his options are working the indies or an off-peak WWE offer for the next decade+, and we have no real data to suggest Khan is as open to burying the hatchet if there's money to be made as McMahon often is

1) If he’s not happy in AEW, he shouldn’t work there. Same as if someone is unhappy at Burger King or at a top executive position at Amazon. Money may not be the driving force here, but …

2) You’re comparing what he’d making in WWE vs. what he *might* make if he waits til 2024 (and if he’s unhappy he might want want to live miserably for 18 months). He might be comparing what he thinks he’ll get there vs. what he actually is making right now — and that would probably be more.

If he is unhappy legit then yes he should leave. However since he has a contract he should also be prepared to deal with a very real possibility of being told he's sitting out till 2024.

Now I don't think it'll come to that but it easily could if this isn't a work

[Legion]

May 29, 2022 16:16:29 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

The most logical explanation based on what we know is that it is a work aimed at drumming up interest in the PPV. Which it has done fairly successfully.

But we'll know in six hours or so.

That's where I was two hours ago.

Now I'm being swayed maybe not.

Who knows where I'll be in another few hours!

[y4j1981]

Events like this make me wish I was still younger and not on the internet and didn't know bout all the "inside/backstage stuff". Probably be a happier wrestling fan

[06vwgti]

May 29, 2022 16:15:08 GMT -5 Chiral said:

May 29, 2022 16:12:40 GMT -5 One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs said:

There isn't an employment lawyer on the planet that would advise someone to so blatantly violate both their contract and good will with as little leverage as MJF has, simply as a negotiation tactic. This is a nuclear option that would've been risky if tonight was his last contracted date, with 19 months left this might be career suicide.

MJF if he gambles his whole career on advice from his legal team:

He shouldnt have gotten attorney advice from Taz

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 29, 2022 16:20:15 GMT -5 oxbaker said:

May 29, 2022 16:06:42 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

MJF wasn't even being pushed back, is the thing, dude had two of the best feuds in wrestling this year, that's not even a debate he just did, with one of those people who came in.

If this were like, Sonny Kiss? Yeah, sure, but if MJF is complaining about his spot, that's absurd imo, he's been one of the most featured men in the company, and has one of the lightest in-ring schedules of ANY of them.

Yeah but if you’re being pushed as a top guy and doing duty as a top guy and you’re being paid like Sonny Kiss, that might make you unhappy.

They literally said he signed an extension which saw him get paid more than he was already getting paid, which we don't know what that was

He just, reportedly, wanted even more.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 29, 2022 16:16:29 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

The most logical explanation based on what we know is that it is a work aimed at drumming up interest in the PPV. Which it has done fairly successfully.

But we'll know in six hours or so.

Again, why is it so obviously a work when a bunch of fans got legitimately screwed at a meet and greet when MJF didn't show up?

Like we've been over this already but  "It's a work" doesn't really seem to work here. It feels like it's been a fairly real situation.

[Andy Martin]

May 29, 2022 16:21:11 GMT -5 oxbaker said:

They need to sell Tony’s post-PPV media scrum as a PPV. They could probably set records.

The Colombian Tourism Board just started grinning from ear to ear.

[polarbearpete]

May 29, 2022 16:12:40 GMT -5 One of the Cooler, Candid TOKs said:

May 29, 2022 14:58:03 GMT -5 Legion said:

Well, we dont know what his contract looks like, much like anyone else, we assume and we pick things up from others and Newz, but none of us have ever had an AEW or a WWE talent contract.

Lord knows what are in those things.

I'd assume he has an agent with some degree of legal knowledge giving him advice over what he's doing here, if indeed, he is doing something here.

There isn't an employment lawyer on the planet that would advise someone to so blatantly violate both their contract and good will with as little leverage as MJF has, simply as a negotiation tactic. This is a nuclear option that would've been risky if tonight was his last contracted date, with 19 months left this might be career suicide.

I’d be curious of the language in their contracts, as that’s really what’s going to control in these situations most of the time. I’ve seen copies of WWE contracts before and they’d be able to do similar to what they did with Sasha and Naomi, suspend and also extend the contract for the suspended period.

[polarbearpete]

May 29, 2022 14:50:30 GMT -5 @mattyphatty said:

May 29, 2022 14:36:54 GMT -5 Raw is Doodie101 said:

Then Vince would just sue for the Jeff shit.

Also, I highly doubt anybody from WWE corporate told MJF to do this. They could have just had Cody talk to him like Lebron & Wade before they joined the heat. Pat Riley didn't need to do that directly. Just made sure he had the cap space. Vince wouldn't have to tell MJF anything. Just have the money ready.

I don’t feel like opening a major legal can of worms, or pull a douchy card, but I’m a contract lawyer.

Like I said, there’s a major difference, even if it’s just in measure of damages, between talking to Jeff Hardy when he’s already been released and in his notice period, and outright inducing MJF to breach a contract that still has 2 years on it.

The LeBron/Bosh situation isn’t even remotely within the same stratosphere, because there’s a CBA in the NBA that governs how and when you’re allowed to contact upcoming free agents. That doesn’t exist in wrestling. And, on top of that, even if you want to draw that analogy, MJF isn’t an upcoming free agent. He’s got 2 years left on his deal.

It’s definitely different than Jeff, although it could be similar in that Matt likely talked to Jeff about them being interested before he left the show and got himself fired. Just like I’d bet MJF has talked to people in WWE that are not in positions of power about them being interested. I doubt anyone from the company told him to breach his contract, though, that would likely be all on him.

[The Captain]

I think the only way this is a work is if AEW and mjf agreed to turn this real situation and pivot. Like I said earlier in the thread it'd be some real WCW 2000 shit if this was planned as a work from jump.

Either that or I turn into the Senator Vreenak of pro wrestling.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

If this is a work it’s ducking stupid, cause I’m not putting down money for a match I really want to see that might not happen.

If it’s real, then MJF is a dummy for basically killing his career since promoters can see how untrustworthy he is on a grand stage, and this really is one of AEW’s biggest black eyes so far.

[Richard]

I've said it's a work and I'm sticking with it. Probably run an angle where he refuses to face Wardlow because the wrong ref counted three 3 and Tony forces him into this (f***ing page 18 man). Then MJF wins the title at All Out from Punk and goes on his own Summer of Punk run.

[polarbearpete]

I can’t imagine this being a work, as this match being in question probably has a lot of fans waiting on deciding to buy the PPV. It’s one of the two matches people have most been looking forward to.