MJF no show AEW Fan Fest

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 29, 2022 16:39:36 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I think the only way this is a work is if AEW and mjf agreed to turn this real situation and pivot. Like I said earlier in the thread it'd be some real WCW 2000 shit if this was planned as a work from jump.

Either that or I turn into the Senator Vreenak of pro wrestling.

See THAT I can believe, it's the "Work from the jump" I can't. I can believe they can turn it into a storyline work if they worked shit out, but I absolutely believe he no showed and that was real.

[EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese]

I just don’t see what added benefit there would be of this whole thing being a work, especially since the pre-existing work (the feud with Wardlow) was seemingly doing the job of maintaining interest in MJF just fine.

People are more likely to just be frustrated by this stuff than captivated by it.

[Feargus McReddit]

Could wrestling just have one normal one, please?

Like, instead of WWE writing a petty statement or MJF performing a work or not performing a work, we have fun shows with fun matches and fun segments and people have discussions of matches and we’re all having a good time.

This stuff is, as many people have said, exhausting.

[chrom]

May 29, 2022 16:51:07 GMT -5 EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese said:

I just don’t see what added benefit there would be of this whole thing being a work, especially since the pre-existing work (the feud with Wardlow) was seemingly doing the job of maintaining interest in MJF just fine.

People are more likely to just be frustrated by this stuff than captivated by it.

Yeah this isn't the stuff that draws interest, this makes them roll their eyes and think twice about watching the product

[Legion]

May 29, 2022 16:45:39 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 29, 2022 16:39:36 GMT -5 The Captain said:

I think the only way this is a work is if AEW and mjf agreed to turn this real situation and pivot. Like I said earlier in the thread it'd be some real WCW 2000 shit if this was planned as a work from jump.

Either that or I turn into the Senator Vreenak of pro wrestling.

See THAT I can believe, it's the "Work from the jump" I can't. I can believe they can turn it into a storyline work if they worked shit out, but I absolutely believe he no showed and that was real.

What's worse - Tony just got held up and folded and worked MJF's real life unprofessional walk out in to a story, thus highlighting to others in similar positions they can also try shit like this - or - he was in on a a bad work from the beginning that may have upset a handful of fans who went to a meet and greet specifically for MJF, but they still got others and got worked?

I'm thinking the 'not a work' option is worse than the 'it's a bad work' option myself...but I really am stuck knowing what to believe here in this situation.

Neither are good really.

[Bo Rida]

May 29, 2022 16:51:07 GMT -5 EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese said:

I just don’t see what added benefit there would be of this whole thing being a work, especially since the pre-existing work (the feud with Wardlow) was seemingly doing the job of maintaining interest in MJF just fine.

People are more likely to just be frustrated by this stuff than captivated by it.

Yeah the way I see it the options are

1. MJF doesn't show and everyone is disappointed
2. MJF tries to work an angle and as a result the focus is removed from Wardlow
3. No mention, they play it straight and everyone is disappointed that's it.
4. It all comes together into some compelling master plan that is logical but nobody in pages of speculation saw coming

Option 4 isn't impossible but seems very unlikely so basically at best it's undercut what was a great 3 year build at the last moment for no obvious benefit.

[Legion]

May 29, 2022 16:51:07 GMT -5 EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese said:

I just don’t see what added benefit there would be of this whole thing being a work, especially since the pre-existing work (the feud with Wardlow) was seemingly doing the job of maintaining interest in MJF just fine.

People are more likely to just be frustrated by this stuff than captivated by it.

I suggested a few pages back this may be something specifically targeted at the smarks who may try and cheer MJF. Like, AEW doesnt want to even entertain duelling chants or anyone trying to support him, so do something that is just going to get people pissed at MJF, never confirm anything so no one can really know, and then put on a show that makes people forget anything else.

It would, absolutely, be weird. But Tony has shown he isnt above weird and has very clear ideas what he wants from his long plan booking stories.

[khali]

All this has done has made me less excited for a show I was very into. It’s not fun being unsure if a match you’re really looking forward to is going to happen.

[thegatewaydrug]

One hour 'til the Buy In broadcast begins. No official word on any matter yet?

[Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED!]

May 29, 2022 16:51:07 GMT -5 EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese said:

I just don’t see what added benefit there would be of this whole thing being a work, especially since the pre-existing work (the feud with Wardlow) was seemingly doing the job of maintaining interest in MJF just fine.

People are more likely to just be frustrated by this stuff than captivated by it.

Especially doing the work this late in the game. Like if they had a week between Wardlow completing his gauntlet and now, they could have played an angle of MJF hiding from Wardlow and raised the question of if he'd be there that wouldn't be reliant on people being up on the dirtsheets. This kind of thing isn't AEW's style.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 29, 2022 16:56:35 GMT -5 Legion said:

May 29, 2022 16:45:39 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

See THAT I can believe, it's the "Work from the jump" I can't. I can believe they can turn it into a storyline work if they worked shit out, but I absolutely believe he no showed and that was real.

What's worse - Tony just got held up and folded and worked MJF's real life unprofessional walk out in to a story, thus highlighting to others in similar positions they can also try shit like this - or - he was in on a a bad work from the beginning that may have upset a handful of fans who went to a meet and greet specifically for MJF, but they still got others and got worked?

I'm thinking the 'not a work' option is worse than the 'it's a bad work' option myself...but I really am stuck knowing what to believe here in this situation.

Neither are good really.

You misunderstand what I'm saying

I don't think it was a work at the onset

I do however, think if they reached out to MJF, worked something out, and are having the match, they can kayfabe what happened INTO the storyline, not showing up, trying to get a plane out of Vegas, all trying to duck Wardlow and not have the match

This isn't to say MJF wouldn't be punished or what he did would be handwaved away, I'm saying it could be a compromise to get shit back on track, and then deal with MJF postmatch, if he gets a suspension or something, Wardlow destroying him would be a good time to write him out if that'd be the case.

[smokinvokoun86]

May 29, 2022 17:00:35 GMT -5 khali said:

All this has done has made me less excited for a show I was very into. It’s not fun being unsure if a match you’re really looking forward to is going to happen.

I hate to say it, but I agree with you. I’m sure it will be an overall great show but MJF really sank a lot of the excitement I had. Maybe I’ll enjoy it more in future viewings. But thing just sucks overall.

[khali]

May 29, 2022 17:07:59 GMT -5 smokinvokoun86 said:

May 29, 2022 17:00:35 GMT -5 khali said:

All this has done has made me less excited for a show I was very into. It’s not fun being unsure if a match you’re really looking forward to is going to happen.

I hate to say it, but I agree with you. I’m sure it will be an overall great show but MJF really sank a lot of the excitement I had. Maybe I’ll enjoy it more in future viewings. But thing just sucks overall.

That’s why I really hope they make it clear one way or the other. Maybe then I might just get lost in the show again. But the mystery kind of sinks it some.

[Allie Kitsune]

May 29, 2022 16:55:06 GMT -5 chrom said:

May 29, 2022 16:51:07 GMT -5 EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese said:

I just don’t see what added benefit there would be of this whole thing being a work, especially since the pre-existing work (the feud with Wardlow) was seemingly doing the job of maintaining interest in MJF just fine.

People are more likely to just be frustrated by this stuff than captivated by it.

Yeah this isn't the stuff that draws interest, this makes them roll their eyes and think twice about watching the product

Exactly. This isn't making me think "MJF is a Fourth Dimensional Genius!", it's just making me roll my eyes.

[Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED!]

May 29, 2022 17:07:59 GMT -5 smokinvokoun86 said:

May 29, 2022 17:00:35 GMT -5 khali said:

All this has done has made me less excited for a show I was very into. It’s not fun being unsure if a match you’re really looking forward to is going to happen.

I hate to say it, but I agree with you. I’m sure it will be an overall great show but MJF really sank a lot of the excitement I had. Maybe I’ll enjoy it more in future viewings. But thing just sucks overall.

I'm going to have a great time tonight, I'm not going to let the attention whore that is MJF ruin my night to get himself heat.

But still f*** that guy.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Will say for me personally, I was fully on board with buying this PPV earlier and this whole situation has made me fall firmly into being undecided on it.

[Nosnorb]

A much anticipated match which has been building for literally months. Fans salivating over a face finally getting his hands on an absolute twat.

Why on earth would AEW do a work like this when the match is perfect as it is?

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

May 29, 2022 16:54:10 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

Could wrestling just have one normal one, please?

Like, instead of WWE writing a petty statement or MJF performing a work or not performing a work, we have fun shows with fun matches and fun segments and people have discussions of matches and we’re all having a good time.

This stuff is, as many people have said, exhausting.

We still have Seth Rollins and his confused coked up car salesman and Milli Vanilli backup dancing preacher gimmick.

And Miz, who’s just been doing just fine being a dick without being a real life asshole about it.

[Celexa Bliss]

Well, on the bright side, is anyone thinking about the basketball game right now?? Anyone?? Huh??

[stoptheclocks]

May 29, 2022 16:28:42 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 29, 2022 16:16:29 GMT -5 stoptheclocks said:

The most logical explanation based on what we know is that it is a work aimed at drumming up interest in the PPV. Which it has done fairly successfully.

But we'll know in six hours or so.

Again, why is it so obviously a work when a bunch of fans got legitimately screwed at a meet and greet when MJF didn't show up?

Like we've been over this already but  "It's a work" doesn't really seem to work here. It feels like it's been a fairly real situation.

I didn't say it was obviously a work. I said it made more sense than MJF no showing a major PPV because of what appear to be very minor reasons.

But anyway, there's no point discussing it because neither of us know. If MJF isn't on the show tonight, that pretty much settles it for me that it's legit.