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Post by XIII on Dec 10, 2022 22:34:33 GMT -5
I saw Cam play a few years ago and he sucked so I’m not sure what he’s on here. |
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Dec 11, 2022 8:14:11 GMT -5
Cam, my dude, we saw you play last year. You couldn't keep Sam Darnold and PJ Walker off the field. You were cooked like you were on the Sun when you tried to pass more than 10 yards You keep trying to play this game but there's a reason not even the Colts or the Texans, as bad as their QB situations have been all year, have called you. And no, the Niners won't either. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 11, 2022 21:37:32 GMT -5
With the toughness he showed and having the locker room more in his corner looks like Mike White has the QB job in his pocket until he gets injured or f***s up
Wilson should def be the backup moving forward cause Flacco ain't it
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Post by Mecca on Dec 12, 2022 13:08:44 GMT -5
With the toughness he showed and having the locker room more in his corner looks like Mike White has the QB job in his pocket until he gets injured or f***s up Wilson should def be the backup moving forward cause Flacco ain't it Interesting note...Garrett Wilson commented on that he can't buy a call after the Bills hit him late out of bounds yesterday..said he had a ref tell him this ain't Ohio State anymore. |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 12, 2022 22:17:50 GMT -5
With the toughness he showed and having the locker room more in his corner looks like Mike White has the QB job in his pocket until he gets injured or f***s up Wilson should def be the backup moving forward cause Flacco ain't it Interesting note...Garrett Wilson commented on that he can't buy a call after the Bills hit him late out of bounds yesterday..said he had a ref tell him this ain't Ohio State anymore. Sounds like the ref went to Michigan. |
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Dec 13, 2022 2:08:53 GMT -5
Rankings after Week 14
1. Philadelphia Eagles (12 – 1)
2. Dallas Cowboys (10 – 3)
3. Minnesota Vikings (10 – 3)
4. Buffalo Bills (10 – 3)
5. Kansas City Chiefs (10 – 3)
6. Baltimore Ravens (9 – 4)
7. Cincinnati Bengals (9 – 4)
8. San Francisco 49ers (9 – 4)
9. Miami Dolphins (8 – 5)
10. New York Giants (7 – 5 – 1)
11. Washington Commanders (7 – 5 – 1)
12. New England Patriots (7 – 6)
13. New York Jets (7 – 6)
14. Seattle Seahawks (7 – 6)
15. Los Angeles Chargers (7 – 6)
16. Tennessee Titans (7 – 6)
17. Detroit Lions (6 – 7)
18. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6 – 7)
19. Jacksonville Jaguars (5 – 8)
20. Green Bay Packers (5 – 8)
21. Pittsburgh Steelers (5 – 8)
22. Cleveland Browns (5 – 8)
23. Carolina Panthers (5 – 8)
24. Atlanta Falcons (5 – 8)
25. Las Vegas Raiders (5 – 8)
26. Indianapolis Colts (4 – 8 – 1)
27. Arizona Cardinals (4 – 9)
28. New Orleans Saints (4 – 9)
29. Los Angeles Rams (4 – 9)
30. Chicago Bears (3 – 10)
31. Denver Broncos (3 – 10)
32. Houston Texans (1 – 10 – 1)
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 13, 2022 12:51:34 GMT -5
So…..I have a question for Lions fans here. I get that the idea was to play Goff this year, draft a QB and use Goff as a bridge, then dump him either before his last contracted season or let his contract expire and move on. My question is, do you still think that’s a good idea? Looking at the last several seasons’ worth of 1st rd QBs, only Lamar and Allen look to be a clear improvement over Goff. Are you willing to toss out the good to pursue the perfect? Would you rather draft a lineman and a key defensive piece instead?
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Dec 13, 2022 15:16:26 GMT -5
So…..I have a question for Lions fans here. I get that the idea was to play Goff this year, draft a QB and use Goff as a bridge, then dump him either before his last contracted season or let his contract expire and move on. My question is, do you still think that’s a good idea? Looking at the last several seasons’ worth of 1st rd QBs, only Lamar and Allen look to be a clear improvement over Goff. Are you willing to toss out the good to pursue the perfect? Would you rather draft a lineman and a key defensive piece instead? Not a Lions fan obviously but looking at where teams are currently slotted to draft you got Houston, Seattle via Denver, Chicago, Lions via LA and Philly via New Orleans. If that holds as the top 5 then you know 1 and 2 are gonna be QBs and the Bears would probably trade down to a QB team looking to get the 3rd best guy. Detroit would have to absolutely be in love with the 3rd or 4th QB available if they wanted to draft a new QB. Lions probably roll with Goff again and draft the best non QB in the draft at 4 |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 13, 2022 15:34:34 GMT -5
So…..I have a question for Lions fans here. I get that the idea was to play Goff this year, draft a QB and use Goff as a bridge, then dump him either before his last contracted season or let his contract expire and move on. My question is, do you still think that’s a good idea? Looking at the last several seasons’ worth of 1st rd QBs, only Lamar and Allen look to be a clear improvement over Goff. Are you willing to toss out the good to pursue the perfect? Would you rather draft a lineman and a key defensive piece instead? Not a Lions fan obviously but looking at where teams are currently slotted to draft you got Houston, Seattle via Denver, Chicago, Lions via LA and Philly via New Orleans. If that holds as the top 5 then you know 1 and 2 are gonna be QBs and the Bears would probably trade down to a QB team looking to get the 3rd best guy. Detroit would have to absolutely be in love with the 3rd or 4th QB available if they wanted to draft a new QB. Lions probably roll with Goff again and draft the best non QB in the draft at 4 Look at last year’s crop of rookie QBs. I think everyone should evaluate whether they are in love with any of these QBs. Even Lawrence is not quite as advertised, though I imagine the Jags feel they have more reason to be patient than the others. Still, Lawrence got favorably compared to Andrew Luck in terms of expectations and he hasn’t been close. Granted, Luck had Arians around as a rookie while Lawrence got the Urban Meyer Experience, but Luck didn’t have the kind of overall support that Lawrence has until his final season (which we now know for certain he played hurt the entire year during). |
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Post by XIII on Dec 13, 2022 15:41:40 GMT -5
If I was in charge of a team unless a can’t miss prospect was available I would always trade down for more picks and load up on O and D Line before searching for decent skill players wherever you could. Surprised more bad teams don’t build this way, then again I’m just a guy talking on the internet so what do I know?
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Post by ToyfareMark on Dec 13, 2022 16:47:57 GMT -5
So…..I have a question for Lions fans here. I get that the idea was to play Goff this year, draft a QB and use Goff as a bridge, then dump him either before his last contracted season or let his contract expire and move on. My question is, do you still think that’s a good idea? Looking at the last several seasons’ worth of 1st rd QBs, only Lamar and Allen look to be a clear improvement over Goff. Are you willing to toss out the good to pursue the perfect? Would you rather draft a lineman and a key defensive piece instead? It looks like at this point they're gonna stay with Goff. It'd be foolish to mess up a good thing while also ending up with a top 5 pick. If they can make that push and fight their way into the playoffs they may also attract some good free agents, from what I've heard lots of guys want to play for Dan Campbell. I think its best to just stay the course, they have the top rated red zone offense in the league right now, go with what is working. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 13, 2022 19:22:28 GMT -5
If I was in charge of a team unless a can’t miss prospect was available I would always trade down for more picks and load up on O and D Line before searching for decent skill players wherever you could. Surprised more bad teams don’t build this way, then again I’m just a guy talking on the internet so what do I know? That sounds good in theory but 1. OL and DL are generally taken high 2. A team has to value someone highly and for the most part teams don't usually mortgage picks for those players unless it is a QB 3. You have to hope things fall in your path in order for that to happen |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Dec 13, 2022 19:57:25 GMT -5
If I was in charge of a team unless a can’t miss prospect was available I would always trade down for more picks and load up on O and D Line before searching for decent skill players wherever you could. Surprised more bad teams don’t build this way, then again I’m just a guy talking on the internet so what do I know? That sounds good in theory but 1. OL and DL are generally taken high 2. A team has to value someone highly and for the most part teams don't usually mortgage picks for those players unless it is a QB 3. You have to hope things fall in your path in order for that to happen I’ll counter that a bit: 1) Edge and LT are taken high. Some damned fine DT, RT, and IOL can be mid round and 2nd round. If you need those but already have Edge and LT more or less set, trading down is a smart play. 2) There’s mortgaging your future and there’s trading up. The Eagles are in a good place for this upcoming draft because the Saints wanted to trade up, not knowing just about everything that could go wrong would go wrong. In a few years, however, the Saints might still be satisfied with their trade in the end. 3) There’s always some breaks that go your way, though Denver has stepped in it for years now. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 15, 2022 0:24:17 GMT -5
Teams are saying OBJ misjudged his worth and he doesn't look ready to play
He didn't work out for them and based upon Bills and Buffalo bringing in WRs, at the very least the looking not being able to play part seems true
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Post by ToyfareMark on Dec 16, 2022 3:40:39 GMT -5
It might seem silly, but what do you think of the possibility of Jared Goff winning MVP? I mean statistically no, he's not really a candidate in the traditional sense. However the way the team rallies behind him, and the with how inspired his play has been after a subpar 2021, I think at the very least he belongs in the conversation. Even more so if Detroit can fight their way into the playoffs. If you guys think this is dumb, that's fine. I'd just like to read some opinions on it.
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Dec 16, 2022 10:39:52 GMT -5
Mike White is out for the Jets. Medical staff wont clear him for contact with his rib injuries and thus Zach Wilson is back as the starter
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Dec 16, 2022 10:52:30 GMT -5
I’ll ask the same thing I asked in the Week 15 thread over here, Are people still gonna try to convince me Kyle Shanahan is a shitty coach? A rough finisher? Sure. A choker? Sure. Bad cosch? Hell na. |
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 16, 2022 10:55:02 GMT -5
Screw the Jets, let White play. I need them to beat the Lions, but the stupid Jets can't let go of this Zack Wilson drug.
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Post by XIII on Dec 16, 2022 12:08:45 GMT -5
I’ll ask the same thing I asked in the Week 15 thread over here, Are people still gonna try to convince me Kyle Shanahan is a shitty coach? A rough finisher? Sure. A choker? Sure. Bad cosch? Hell na. I mean what good is being a good coach if you can’t get it done when it counts though? It’s like Marty Schottenheimer, great coach but never won anything. Kyle is a decent coach but chokes when it matters and is barely above .500 overall. 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Dec 16, 2022 12:37:46 GMT -5
I’ll ask the same thing I asked in the Week 15 thread over here, I mean what good is being a good coach if you can’t get it done when it counts though? It’s like Marty Schottenheimer, great coach but never won anything. Kyle is a decent coach but chokes when it matters and is barely above .500 overall. 🤷🏻♂️ We’re coming off of Jim Tomsula and Chip Kelly. It took Andy Reid infinity years to win the big one. Winning is the first step, then hopefully everything else comes in time. |
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