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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 5, 2022 22:40:54 GMT -5
"It can't get any worse" is still unforgivably, unbelievably deranged reasoning and everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves. Sadly that's sports mindset People will tear something and if they can play through it, they will if it is said that it can't get any worse. Joel Embiid got his orbital bone fractured and rested for a few days and played. Wrestling is a diff beast as far as having to take care your opponent so can really only wait and see how bad the damage really is To be clear, I don't think he should have wrestled but I am hoping he did not f*** himself over more wrestling Plus, and I mentioned this in another thread, despite many thinking Cody is a made man, if he's out for a long time there's always a chance that Vince could just decide to go a different direction... or he could decide Cody is a made man and try to use Cody to get other people over. Like I'm not in either camp of saying nothing but respect for Cody or bashing him/WWE. I think it was a stupid decision after seeing how bad the bruise was (and especially when it got worse) but to me it's not like Cody is really guaranteed anything
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 5, 2022 22:42:27 GMT -5
Yeah but maybe someone should have convinced you NOT to do this, Cody. I mean this in the nicest way but Cody is an idiot The man is full carny Yeah I'm really not vibing with Meltzer calling it "One of the most compelling matches in history", it was for all the wrong reasons. I don't agree with it being Match of the Year either like some have said. A match being interesting and compelling because a man is legit f***ed and went out there and f***ed himself up further just isn't really cool to me, let alone that being the thing that has people saying "Cody is a made man now, he's totally getting the title", why did it take THIS, to say that? He should have been a made man on track to get a title BEFORE all this, Cody shouldn't have to maim himself to earn respect or "Vince's approval", that's some backwards ass shit I don't sign off on. I hope he gets a world title run when he's back because if he don't after that then WOOF, but to me matches like that shouldn't "earn" Cody anything, he should have already had it imo.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Jun 5, 2022 22:42:37 GMT -5
The ten lashes. The moonsault off the cage. The dog collar match (although that WAS a classic). The fire spot. Every stupid ladder bump he took over the last year. THAT promo. His last six months in AEW (his booking). And now this.
I'm beginning to think Cody needs someone to actually tell him "no" once in a while...
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Post by Chiral on Jun 5, 2022 22:42:47 GMT -5
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Post by Mecca on Jun 5, 2022 22:44:43 GMT -5
The ten lashes. The moonsault off the cage. The dog collar match (although that WAS a classic). The fire spot. Every stupid ladder bump he took over the last year. THAT promo. His last six months in AEW (his booking). And now this. I'm beginning to think Cody needs someone to actually tell him "no" once in a while... Cody needs that friend that when he pitches ideas the give him the look and go "what the f*** is wrong with you"
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2022 22:45:24 GMT -5
Sadly that's sports mindset People will tear something and if they can play through it, they will if it is said that it can't get any worse. Joel Embiid got his orbital bone fractured and rested for a few days and played. Wrestling is a diff beast as far as having to take care your opponent so can really only wait and see how bad the damage really is To be clear, I don't think he should have wrestled but I am hoping he did not f*** himself over more wrestling Plus, and I mentioned this in another thread, despite many thinking Cody is a made man, if he's out for a long time there's always a chance that Vince could just decide to go a different direction... or he could decide Cody is a made man and try to use Cody to get other people over. Like I'm not in either camp of saying nothing but respect for Cody or bashing him/WWE. I think it was a stupid decision after seeing how bad the bruise was (and especially when it got worse) but to me it's not like Cody is really guaranteed anything You're at the mercy of the booker where they fall in or out of love with you at a moments whim and that's the shitty part in wrestling where this could be all for not for Cody Him wrestling really only works on two fronts. One, the crowd. The people will remember this and his pops was already top notch but when he comes back he will blow the roof off the place. Two, the wrestlers in the back. Wrestling is a team and solo sport and your comrades and co-workers in the back just watched you bust your ass when you did not have to. That does stand for something. It might not mean much to people but the respect factor is through the roof for him even more Like I said I think it was not a good decision but I do get it
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Jun 5, 2022 22:45:29 GMT -5
The ten lashes. The moonsault off the cage. The dog collar match (although that WAS a classic). The fire spot. Every stupid ladder bump he took over the last year. THAT promo. His last six months in AEW (his booking). And now this. I'm beginning to think Cody needs someone to actually tell him "no" once in a while... Cody needs that friend that when he pitches ideas the give him the look and go "what the f*** is wrong with you" Cody needs a Lance Storm to his Chris Jericho. Read Jericho's books to get that reference.
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Post by The Gallus Mark on Jun 5, 2022 22:45:48 GMT -5
As someone who knowingly competed in sports with two broken bones for a month, I get it. It was worth the long term pain for the chance to do something special and I’m sure Cody feels the same way.
I won’t hate on him for doing something like this, even if it wasn’t the smartest decision. It’s his body and I thought the match ruled.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Jun 5, 2022 22:48:48 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2022 22:48:53 GMT -5
I mean this in the nicest way but Cody is an idiot The man is full carny Yeah I'm really not vibing with Meltzer calling it "One of the most compelling matches in history", it was for all the wrong reasons. I don't agree with it being Match of the Year either like some have said. A match being interesting and compelling because a man is legit f***ed and went out there and f***ed himself up further just isn't really cool to me, let alone that being the thing that has people saying "Cody is a made man now, he's totally getting the title", why did it take THIS, to say that? He should have been a made man on track to get a title BEFORE all this, Cody shouldn't have to maim himself to earn respect or "Vince's approval", that's some backwards ass shit I don't sign off on. I hope he gets a world title run when he's back because if he don't after that then WOOF, but to me matches like that shouldn't "earn" Cody anything, he should have already had it imo. Let's not frame this as him trying to get Vince approval or this officially made him a made man I think he was made already and he clearly has Vince ear since he always mentions talking to him. This was just Cody going full idiot like he did in AEW. For him that injury added drama and intrigue. He's a carny and for him that mindset has worked to get him where he is today. God Bless him 20 years from now when he is jumping off shit and can't walk because he needs to stop now before he does damage
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 5, 2022 22:49:24 GMT -5
As someone who knowingly competed in sports with two broken bones for a month, I get it. It was worth the long term pain for the chance to do something special and I’m sure Cody feels the same way. I won’t hate on him for doing something like this, even if it wasn’t the smartest decision. It’s his body and I thought the match ruled. I don't hate Cody for it, and yeah it's his body I just hope him doing that doesn't lead to further injury and actually leads to a payoff when he comes back. It needs to, WWE are f***ing dumbasses with booking, but if they screw this up, it will be one of their biggest failures in a long time.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 5, 2022 22:51:16 GMT -5
Yeah I'm really not vibing with Meltzer calling it "One of the most compelling matches in history", it was for all the wrong reasons. I don't agree with it being Match of the Year either like some have said. A match being interesting and compelling because a man is legit f***ed and went out there and f***ed himself up further just isn't really cool to me, let alone that being the thing that has people saying "Cody is a made man now, he's totally getting the title", why did it take THIS, to say that? He should have been a made man on track to get a title BEFORE all this, Cody shouldn't have to maim himself to earn respect or "Vince's approval", that's some backwards ass shit I don't sign off on. I hope he gets a world title run when he's back because if he don't after that then WOOF, but to me matches like that shouldn't "earn" Cody anything, he should have already had it imo. Let's not frame this as him trying to get Vince approval or this officially made him a made man I think he was made already and he clearly has Vince ear since he always mentions talking to him. This was just Cody going full idiot like he did in AEW. For him that injury added drama and intrigue. He's a carny and for him that mindset has worked to get him where he is today. God Bless him 20 years from now when he is jumping off shit and can't walk because he needs to stop now before he does damage Yeah, it was exactly as they'd say, VINTAGE Cody to do this tonight and have that kind of a match Worked in the short term, hope it pans out in the long term. I don't hate him for it, I think he was a dumbass but I just hope that he didn't make things worse and that when he comes back he has big time momentum, otherwise as I said above... WOOF...
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Post by Mecca on Jun 5, 2022 22:53:53 GMT -5
You can absolutely make rupturing a tendon worse, it baffles me that anyone thinks he was told it is what it is and won't be worse.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 5, 2022 22:53:53 GMT -5
ADRENALINE
IN MY SOUL
MY DECISION IS FINAL
GONNA GO TO THAT CELL AND COMPEEEEEEETE
CROWD IS HERE
ABOUT TO BLOW
MY PECTORAL
OFF THE BONE
TWENTY MINUTES OF AGONIZING MOOOOOANS
WOOOOAH-OOOOOOH
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 5, 2022 22:55:37 GMT -5
"It can't get any worse" is still unforgivably, unbelievably deranged reasoning and everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves. Sadly that's sports mindset People will tear something and if they can play through it, they will if it is said that it can't get any worse. Joel Embiid got his orbital bone fractured and rested for a few days and played. Wrestling is a diff beast as far as having to take care your opponent so can really only wait and see how bad the damage really is To be clear, I don't think he should have wrestled but I am hoping he did not f*** himself over more wrestling The 'take care of your opponent' part is what's also terrifying to me. The risk of the pain or the injury compromising him at a bad time seems like another layer of risk entirely. So many needless dangers for nothing.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 5, 2022 22:56:15 GMT -5
I also think it would have benefited everyone involved to show the injury during the show and perhaps have a medical doctor there to explain the decision to let him compete. I loved the match but the first 10 minutes or so were really weird because the crowd was basically in stunned silence from seeing it for the first time. Maybe they wanted the wow factor but I'd rather allow the fans to know what it is and that he's at least somewhat okay to compete.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 5, 2022 22:58:15 GMT -5
I also think it would have benefited everyone involved to show the injury during the show and perhaps have a medical doctor there to explain the decision to let him compete. I loved the match but the first 10 minutes or so were really weird because the crowd was basically in stunned silence from seeing it for the first time. Maybe they wanted the wow factor but I'd rather allow the fans to know what it is and that he's at least somewhat okay to compete. I agree with this. It would have helped. Maybe I’m naive, but this company shut down Danielson, Edge, Christian and others for years. I truly believe there were enough folks backstage that medically thought he was ok to get through 20 minutes. Again, not condoning. Just seems to be most logical.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jun 5, 2022 22:58:42 GMT -5
I respect Cody for having the guts to do this. That doesn't mean that this wasn't an idiotic decision, and WWE should have told him "no, absolutely not". But I give Cody credit, dude's a passionate performer, but I sincerely hope he doesn't let that ruin his body.
And the whole "It can't get worse mentality" is idiotic. It may not be able to get any worse, but shit like this can conclusively limit how much better it's able to get. Just ask Nigel McGuinness.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 5, 2022 22:58:58 GMT -5
Sadly that's sports mindset People will tear something and if they can play through it, they will if it is said that it can't get any worse. Joel Embiid got his orbital bone fractured and rested for a few days and played. Wrestling is a diff beast as far as having to take care your opponent so can really only wait and see how bad the damage really is To be clear, I don't think he should have wrestled but I am hoping he did not f*** himself over more wrestling The 'take care of your opponent' part is what's also terrifying to me. The risk of the pain or the injury compromising him at a bad time seems like another layer of risk entirely. So many needless dangers for nothing. Remember when Seth Rollins was f***ing reckless and turned Cena nose to mush amongst other injuries. To think now he was trusted and they trusted each other to get through that match with that injury. I wouldn't say it is for nothing as much as them dudes just living on edge and living in the moment. It is an insane mindset but you have to be slightly insane to do what they do
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jun 5, 2022 22:59:01 GMT -5
I also think it would have benefited everyone involved to show the injury during the show and perhaps have a medical doctor there to explain the decision to let him compete. I loved the match but the first 10 minutes or so were really weird because the crowd was basically in stunned silence from seeing it for the first time. Maybe they wanted the wow factor but I'd rather allow the fans to know what it is and that he's at least somewhat okay to compete. It's crazy but I think the silence really added to the match. The crowd was stunned and silent and Cody working for the crowd to get back into the match and actually believing he has a chance was really compelling.
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