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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jun 6, 2022 15:42:21 GMT -5
Phil LaFon is the future of marketing.
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Post by dreidemy on Jun 6, 2022 17:20:42 GMT -5
Does SRS browse this board?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 6, 2022 17:24:37 GMT -5
It's a less than .01% chance, but I would need an oxygen mask from laughing if Hunter and Steph ended up jumping to AEW. Say what you will about either of them, but both have higher end experience in the biggest wrestling company in the world, which is invaluable. Plus, you can imagine how much AEW would (rightly so) milk having them there. I could only imagine Vince's face if it ever happened. I am already picturing the Cheshire Cat grin on Tony Khan's face when he introduces them
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Post by krozor on Jun 6, 2022 17:25:04 GMT -5
Yeah, it's tough to know. I just never really considered Stephanie to be a genuine honest-to-goodness marketer. There will be books one day written on this stuff that will be super interesting to read, I'm sure. Oh, likely. I guess we also never really got a sense of what she did at times. Like, she went to events and such and promoted the business side but then Titus O’Neal did too and O’Neal isn’t on the board of directors or was Chief Brand Officer. Now I really want Nick Khan to give Titus the Chief Brand Officer role based on his ample charity and branding work, his experience managing a Worldwide business, knowing the wrestling ring inside out and under, knowledge that he has "pull" with Vince McMahon and got Vince to "change direction" on at least one occasion that received much fan support, and of course a glowing reference from a Rufus Patterson.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 6, 2022 17:26:51 GMT -5
Phil Anthropy is the future of marketing. Is he related to Hugh Mannity?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 6, 2022 17:29:35 GMT -5
Oh, likely. I guess we also never really got a sense of what she did at times. Like, she went to events and such and promoted the business side but then Titus O’Neal did too and O’Neal isn’t on the board of directors or was Chief Brand Officer. Now I really want Nick Khan to give Titus the Chief Brand Officer role based on his ample charity and branding work, his experience managing a Worldwide business, knowing the wrestling ring inside out and under, knowledge that he has "pull" with Vince McMahon and got Vince to "change direction" on at least one occasion that received much fan support, and of course a glowing reference from a Rufus Patterson. I mean, he never told Sid Vicious to jump off the top rope which lead to a physically and mentally draining rehab so he’d already be a better former pro wrestler turned executive hire than Johnny Ace was.
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Post by MrElijah on Jun 6, 2022 17:50:02 GMT -5
Now I really want Nick Khan to give Titus the Chief Brand Officer role based on his ample charity and branding work, his experience managing a Worldwide business, knowing the wrestling ring inside out and under, knowledge that he has "pull" with Vince McMahon and got Vince to "change direction" on at least one occasion that received much fan support, and of course a glowing reference from a Rufus Patterson. I mean, he never told Sid Vicious to jump off the top rope which lead to a physically and mentally draining rehab so he’d already a better former pro wrestler turned executive hire than Johnny Ace was. But Ace invented the Cutter and Mrs. Baba liked him!
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 6, 2022 17:51:50 GMT -5
I mean, he never told Sid Vicious to jump off the top rope which lead to a physically and mentally draining rehab so he’d already a better former pro wrestler turned executive hire than Johnny Ace was. But Ace invented the Cutter and Mrs. Baba liked him! …those are two strong arguments, there.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jun 6, 2022 18:13:50 GMT -5
Plus, you can imagine how much AEW would (rightly so) milk having them there. I could only imagine Vince's face if it ever happened. I am already picturing the Cheshire Cat grin on Tony Khan's face when he introduces them He would snort an 8 ball live on air “WHO’S READY FOR A HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT???!!!!??!!!”
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 18:16:19 GMT -5
This makes me wanna see Steph, Hunter, and Shane appear for AEW to stick it to Vince. What a shitty thing to do to your kids Or at least maybe start of their own promotion? This could have been ROH in a different world but Hunter with free reign would definitely peek the interest of many talent I'm sure
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 18:17:53 GMT -5
I am already picturing the Cheshire Cat grin on Tony Khan's face when he introduces them He would snort an 8 ball a whole key of pure Columbian live on air “WHO’S READY FOR A HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT???!!!!??!!!” Gotta celebrate like it's more than just a Tuesday at the Khan household for something that big :-P
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jun 6, 2022 19:02:20 GMT -5
This is fascinating. Does anyone here think that Stephanie and Paul will ever start their own promotion to challenge Vince? No. Paul's in his 50s and has a pacemaker and Steph's not super young anymore, either. If they find themselves on the outs with WWE, I think it means their day-to-day lives in wrestling are over. Could I see a world where Paul makes appearances for NWA or indies one day? Maybe? That's one of the scenarios I play out in my head that seems less crazy than others, but it's still a stretch. Also, I don’t think they have the capital to realistically launch a major promotion. Don’t get me wrong, they’re rich but they’d have to gamble everything to have a shot at competing with AEW or WWE and they still might not have enough to launch a promotion. I don’t know this for fact, but I imagine AEW launched with $50-100 million backing them, Paul and Steph have nowhere near that sort of scratch.
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Post by XIII on Jun 6, 2022 19:13:07 GMT -5
No. Paul's in his 50s and has a pacemaker and Steph's not super young anymore, either. If they find themselves on the outs with WWE, I think it means their day-to-day lives in wrestling are over. Could I see a world where Paul makes appearances for NWA or indies one day? Maybe? That's one of the scenarios I play out in my head that seems less crazy than others, but it's still a stretch. Also, I don’t think they have the capital to realistically launch a major promotion. Don’t get me wrong, they’re rich but they’d have to gamble everything to have a shot at competing with AEW or WWE and they still might not have enough to launch a promotion. I don’t know this for fact, but I imagine AEW launched with $50-100 million backing them, Paul and Steph have nowhere near that sort of scratch. Not to mention that knowing Vince/WWE contracts they would likely have a lifetime no compete clause written in there
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 6, 2022 19:41:39 GMT -5
Would've done if the show was held in my hometown of Liverpool I bet they did it in Manchester, not realising they'd be guaranteed boos as a result. That's exactly what happened. Show was in Manchester, heels came out in Liverpool outfits got booed. Faces came out in Man City outfits. Got booed even louder to the point everybody was confused. As for the news? I think writings been on the wall ever since Nick Khan kept getting power
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jun 6, 2022 20:00:47 GMT -5
I am already picturing the Cheshire Cat grin on Tony Khan's face when he introduces them He would snort an 8 ball live on air “WHO’S READY FOR A HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT???!!!!??!!!” As long as he’s covered in baby oil and surrounded by hookers, while equally shilling the new AEW Cookies!
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Post by Starshine on Jun 6, 2022 20:06:32 GMT -5
The turnaround from employing your kids in prominent positions to not only forcing them out but this weird dirtsheet ratf***ing that now both Shane and Steph have been hit with is really ugly. What is happening in that company and what is happening in that family. It may have been something people missed but when he did McAfee's podcast he literally said..I had higher hopes for my children. Vince apparently thinks they suck. Speaking of that podcast, did anything come out from that "my wife at the time" line he dropped regarding Linda?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 6, 2022 23:13:36 GMT -5
Also, I don’t think they have the capital to realistically launch a major promotion. Don’t get me wrong, they’re rich but they’d have to gamble everything to have a shot at competing with AEW or WWE and they still might not have enough to launch a promotion. I don’t know this for fact, but I imagine AEW launched with $50-100 million backing them, Paul and Steph have nowhere near that sort of scratch. Not to mention that knowing Vince/WWE contracts they would likely have a lifetime no compete clause written in there Yeah that isn't happening. A contract preventing someone from earning a living in their industry is only legal against people who cannot afford a lawyer.
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Post by sportatorium on Jun 6, 2022 23:35:19 GMT -5
No matter what they say or don't say, the company is going to be sold in the next couple of years. They have people right now who are advising Vince & the board what needs to happen to get the highest value. If they believe there is more to be done in marketing, to increase the company's value- Vince would view pushing Stephanie out as the best thing to do for her and her family as they will make a windfall from the sale.
It's completely soulless, but it's what I think is going on.
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Jun 7, 2022 0:11:56 GMT -5
“No, I don’t think about it a lot, hopefully, if you, if you built something, you want it to continue on, you know, and prosper and grow. Whether that’s with a family member or without a family member. Because my view, this business is, is best for everybody, whether you’re a part of it or you’re not a part of it, and you have to treat it as such."
“You have to be objective, you know, and look at family members or whoever it is just as you would other employees," McMahon continued. "And quite frankly, I’ve probably expected more, you know out of my family members, which is probably not the right thing to say. But nonetheless, it’s like, you have to do the right thing for the business. So if this person is not working out, then they shouldn’t be a part of the company.”That's the quote, so he doesnt quite frame it as him being disappointed with them, as much as he just expects more of them because they are family. I really can't help but read that as "They don't know how to silence their conscience as well as I do to squeeze more cents out of our stock price" It's almost like Vince's legal (and moral) obligations are to the stockholders and not to prop up his own family. Not gonna defend anything the McMahon family has ever done but to act like this isn't actually the right thing to do in terms of running a company is absurd
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Post by nisidhe on Jun 7, 2022 0:39:47 GMT -5
I really can't help but read that as "They don't know how to silence their conscience as well as I do to squeeze more cents out of our stock price" It's almost like Vince's legal (and moral) obligations are to the stockholders and not to prop up his own family. Not gonna defend anything the McMahon family has ever done but to act like this isn't actually the right thing to do in terms of running a company is absurd The stock traded publicly on the NYSE carries no voting weight. The only voting stock is mostly in the hands of the McMahon and Levesque families. If Vince is thinking of a decision's impact on stock price, either he's looking to sell the company, or there's an issue with the company that's drawing unwanted attention.
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