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Post by Mecca on Jun 7, 2022 13:25:09 GMT -5
Cody Rhodes since returning to WWE has wrestled the same amount of matches he wrestled in the previous 13 months..
Think about that.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 7, 2022 13:28:50 GMT -5
That must be counting house shows. He’s wrestled 8 TV/PPV matches.
He wrestled 24 TV/PPV matches in AEW in 2021. And 34 in 2020.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 7, 2022 13:34:24 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan wrestled 19 matches for WWE in the first 4 months of 2021. He then wrestled 18 matches in the first 3.5 months of his AEW run.
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Post by Mecca on Jun 7, 2022 13:40:39 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan wrestled 19 matches for WWE in the first 4 months of 2021. He then wrestled 18 matches in the first 3.5 months of his AEW run. Ok so what's the argument? Do you think WWE doesn't overexpose talent by having them work to often and wrestle the same person infinity times?
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jun 7, 2022 13:59:06 GMT -5
Lol This is a stupid thread, just meant to try and shit on WWE. Which hey is fine but at least use context. He's wrestled only 8 TV matches on WWE. He's wrestled only 5 times on free tv in that time. House shows do not count as guess what, nobody sees them? How do you overexpose a wrestler when only the audience in primarily rural cities see him wrestling Seth every night?
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on Jun 7, 2022 14:02:06 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan wrestled 19 matches for WWE in the first 4 months of 2021. He then wrestled 18 matches in the first 3.5 months of his AEW run. Ok so what's the argument? Do you think WWE doesn't overexpose talent by having them work to often and wrestle the same person infinity times? This is literally how every major wrestling company in North America has done business up until AEW. You do a house show loop and face the same guy for months. A lot of wrestlers like this because it makes them comfortable to face the same guy and have that rhythm and trust. It also makes sense since every match these two had was better than the next one as they developed trust and comfort with one another especially on Sunday when Rollins had to really take care of Cody in the ring.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jun 7, 2022 14:07:55 GMT -5
I mean, I'm super pro AEW but wasn't Cody's TNT run basically about him wrestling every week?
You can argue it being the same guy every week isn't the best, and often it isn't, but people seem to be loving it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 14:10:31 GMT -5
I would argue that Alberto Del Rio is the worst example of this ever. I know his entire run is maligned in retrospect (and deservedly so, given what a real life idiot and abuser he apparently is), but I actually think they did a pretty good job building him up to the Championship.
But then, my god did he do the same shit constantly, and get booked into the ground once he actually became a main eventer. The Sheamus meme was a meme for a good reason.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 7, 2022 14:21:51 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan wrestled 19 matches for WWE in the first 4 months of 2021. He then wrestled 18 matches in the first 3.5 months of his AEW run. Ok so what's the argument? Do you think WWE doesn't overexpose talent by having them work to often and wrestle the same person infinity times? The argument is clear I would think. You started the thread and compared the number of matches Cody has had in WWE vs. the number of matches Cody had in AEW. I was showing that the TV/PPV match counts were not all that different for him, or for another wrestler that recently switched companies in Bryan Danielson. I don’t think Bryan Danielson has felt less special in AEW because of the number of matches he wrestles , nor do I think Cody feels less special in WWE. In fact, I’d say Cody seems way more special and over in WWE than he did when he left AEW.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 7, 2022 14:28:20 GMT -5
I would argue that Alberto Del Rio is the worst example of this ever. I know his entire run is maligned in retrospect (and deservedly so, given what a real life idiot and abuser he apparently is), but I actually think they did a pretty good job building him up to the Championship. But then, my god did he do the same shit constantly, and get booked into the ground once he actually became a main eventer. The Sheamus meme was a meme for a good reason. It was before he won the title. He got built up fine in his Rey feud and got heat winning the rumble (well when it seemed like he won it the first time... after the weirdness of Santino coming back in and getting eliminated confused the f*** out of the crowd) but after that he was still over... he then went into it being his destiny to win the World Title! which worked fine for the like 2 months before mania... but then he lost at Mania... and spent the next year repeating the same damned promo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 17:57:24 GMT -5
f*** Alberto Del Rio.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 18:07:07 GMT -5
Cody Rhodes since returning to WWE has wrestled the same amount of matches he wrestled in the previous 13 months.. Think about that. Cody has never felt more special then he does right now
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 18:07:52 GMT -5
Cody Rhodes since returning to WWE has wrestled the same amount of matches he wrestled in the previous 13 months.. Think about that. Cody has never felt more special then he does right now I didn't really care one way or the other about him before, but I'm loving him now.
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Post by Nosnorb on Jun 7, 2022 18:12:47 GMT -5
Cody Rhodes has had almost the same presentation as he has had in AEW and has wrestled more or less the same of TV matches.
I have no idea how WWE have made him feel less special when he's been presented as a Franchise Player since his return.
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Post by Killah Ray on Jun 7, 2022 18:14:53 GMT -5
Cody has never felt more special then he does right now I didn't really care one way or the other about him before, but I'm loving him now. Yeah I was super into the CAWdy meme and yet I have a Cody shirt on under my scrubs…odd times.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 7, 2022 18:19:34 GMT -5
Cody has never felt more special then he does right now I didn't really care one way or the other about him before, but I'm loving him now. He's got an "aura" or "halo" around him now. So when he's back, do not waste any time. Wins Rumble and Wins at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 7, 2022 18:28:42 GMT -5
WWE f*** up a lot of dude's auras, but Cody hasn't been one of them so far.
A bigger example of the problem, I think, is WWE's botching of most of Roman's challengers, where it's like they resigned themselves to, "Roman will win, anyway" and thus don't even try to pretend most of them had a real chance. Absolute lazy booking that for most bookers probably should be tantamount to a typed-up resignation letter. "This is what I think is good TV, so, I've already cleared out my desk."
I do want to point out, yes, Roman himself is special, and I absolutely do think his heel run has been more positive than negative, but it didn't have to be an either-or situation. WWE chose to do it that way.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 7, 2022 18:33:48 GMT -5
I would argue that Alberto Del Rio is the worst example of this ever. I know his entire run is maligned in retrospect (and deservedly so, given what a real life idiot and abuser he apparently is), but I actually think they did a pretty good job building him up to the Championship. But then, my god did he do the same shit constantly, and get booked into the ground once he actually became a main eventer. The Sheamus meme was a meme for a good reason. Alberto Del Rio came through in the period where the only real work that got put into anybody was giving them a shittons of accolades and numerical accomplishments. Like I knwo that's always the strategy for most promotions, but the resume that Del Rio got in a very short time with very littler actual fanfare is unbelievable. It'd be a hall of fame resume on most anyone but on him it's just a bad punchline. He won everything and it meant ntohing because they did nothing to really make it matter.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 7, 2022 18:35:39 GMT -5
I mean, I'm super pro AEW but wasn't Cody's TNT run basically about him wrestling every week? You can argue it being the same guy every week isn't the best, and often it isn't, but people seem to be loving it. There are some talent it would hurt (MJF, who part of his appeal is snaking his way out of wrestling often and hiding behind his big mouth until the climactic match), but not every wrestler needs that treatment to succeed.
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Post by cornettesracket on Jun 7, 2022 18:38:20 GMT -5
So someone makes a thread citing an example of WWE not making wrestler special and picks Cody Rhodes to prove the point ? I mean that’s some mental gymnastics to think that example proves their point.
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