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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 16, 2022 18:50:08 GMT -5
Yeah from a ratings standpoint they needed the Hardyz, good thing OC returned, and never try that handicap match(Wardlow vs 20 geeks) ever again.
So that whole "People probably tuned out because the Bucks were clearly winning" comment in the thread didn't age well did it? Figured, The Bucks are more popular than they're given credit for, and so would a Ladder match They didn't have their usual lead in either, usually when they don't, the show starts off much weaker and doesn't see bigger gains. Are we seeing a different version of the chart where the Bucks match isn't the lowest rated part of the show in numbers and demo?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 16, 2022 18:53:19 GMT -5
So that whole "People probably tuned out because the Bucks were clearly winning" comment in the thread didn't age well did it? Figured, The Bucks are more popular than they're given credit for, and so would a Ladder match They didn't have their usual lead in either, usually when they don't, the show starts off much weaker and doesn't see bigger gains. Are we seeing a different version of the chart where the Bucks match isn't the lowest rated part of the show in numbers and demo? Ah jeez, that actually is my bad, I didn't see they accounted for the Christian turn in the ratings So the show kinda trickled down, and then the turn bounced it back, I would argue the Bucks winning also bounced some viewers back too, a title change moment usually does. On the upside, if people were worried about the New Japan stuff... Ospreay/Cassidy, and Mox/Tana's stuff were the highest segments of the night.
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Post by markymark on Jun 16, 2022 18:57:17 GMT -5
Christian heel turn was one of the best Dynamites endings in a while, it truly deserved to gain viewers.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 16, 2022 18:59:28 GMT -5
The NHL taking viewers away from Dynamite more than the NBA makes total sense to me considering the demographics
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jun 16, 2022 19:03:09 GMT -5
Kinda funny the highest viewership was during the forbidden door stuff.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 16, 2022 19:12:51 GMT -5
The NHL taking viewers away from Dynamite more than the NBA makes total sense to me considering the demographics It's not talked about much because the Hockey Playoffs on cable don't do the numbers the Stanley Cup is doing, but there's a reason NXT was reportedly pushed off Wednesdays for Hockey (At least the main reason given), Hockey has a pretty decent key demo, despite their overall viewership being the lowest of the main four sports, usually. So them being given an even bigger platform I think definitely cut into cable as a whole, probably not the only reason all of cable was down that day, but I think it was a reason.
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Post by The Warthog on Jun 16, 2022 19:14:24 GMT -5
Or maybe viewers realized that the Young Bucks were going to win again anyway and tuned out. Bucks don't need the titles. Did they? It didn't seem like the tag title change was a super given last night, especially with the Hardy's being removed Like again this was a cable wide issue, it's really weird to try and project some hatred on certain wrestlers as the root cause. I wouldn't be shocked if the Ladder match actually gained numbers back tbh. Funny how you criticize what I'm saying but you passed when the Hardys were blamed.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 16, 2022 19:15:56 GMT -5
Kinda funny the highest viewership was during the forbidden door stuff. Said the same, all the talk about how "No one really cares about Japan" or it "Drove viewers away"... it got a higher viewership than even when the show started. Essentially Ospreay/Dax drew viewers, then the brawl with Empire/CHAOS/FTR ending with the Cassidy turn, and then Mox/Tana and that ensuing brawl, all got the biggest interest of the entire night The irony that some peeps are like "They need to get Forbidden Door over with"... Forbidden Door's drawing, if you look at the viewership, it actually drew despite the cable hardship.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 16, 2022 19:17:04 GMT -5
Did they? It didn't seem like the tag title change was a super given last night, especially with the Hardy's being removed Like again this was a cable wide issue, it's really weird to try and project some hatred on certain wrestlers as the root cause. I wouldn't be shocked if the Ladder match actually gained numbers back tbh. Funny how you criticize what I'm saying but you passed when the Hardys were blamed. I mean that's also possible that the Hardy's being removed disinterested viewers, but idk if the Bucks winning disinterested people I imagine when they won the belt or the end of the match contributed to the rise to the Christian heel turn, which caused an even further rise itself.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 16, 2022 19:19:38 GMT -5
Did they? It didn't seem like the tag title change was a super given last night, especially with the Hardy's being removed Like again this was a cable wide issue, it's really weird to try and project some hatred on certain wrestlers as the root cause. I wouldn't be shocked if the Ladder match actually gained numbers back tbh. Funny how you criticize what I'm saying but you passed when the Hardys were blamed. TBH blaming a singular talent or team for an aberration of a number when cable has a six year low in viewership is ridiculous no matter who it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 19:22:18 GMT -5
That all across TV situation is super weird but I still think using a lead-in is a confusing excuse as well...To me it makes it read like AEW is unable to stand on their own if they do not have essentially a bait and switch lead. Almost like a band that is heavily reliant on the night's opening act. Either way things will be all over the place again next week like always
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 16, 2022 19:25:25 GMT -5
That all across TV situation is super weird but I still think using a lead-in is a confusing excuse as well...To me it makes it read like AEW is unable to stand on their own if they do not have essentially a bait and switch lead. Almost like a band that is heavily reliant on the night's opening act. Either way things will be all over the place again next week like always Lead Ins matter for almost all of wrestling though. RAW used to get huge lead ins when Law and Order or NCIS were getting big rerun numbers AEW, normally, gets 1.2 to 1.1 Million viewers at their Lead in, and if they get they they do normally retain to about 900K at their lowest mark. If they get a smaller lead in, the show usually stays around that number mark If people normally tune in at a higher number to start, the show will have a higher likelihood to retain more viewership, in this weeks case with cable down, and the lead in down with it, you seen their viewership started more at 800K and and dipped to more the 650K range at its lowest dip. The demo still held great though.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 16, 2022 19:25:27 GMT -5
"Weak lead-in resulting in a weaker number" is a weird-sounding excuse on paper, but there's decades' worth of evidence that strong lead-ins help with ratings on both network and cable. Just one of those quirks of television ratings.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 16, 2022 19:28:34 GMT -5
Are we seeing a different version of the chart where the Bucks match isn't the lowest rated part of the show in numbers and demo? Ah jeez, that actually is my bad, I didn't see they accounted for the Christian turn in the ratings So the show kinda trickled down, and then the turn bounced it back, I would argue the Bucks winning also bounced some viewers back too, a title change moment usually does. On the upside, if people were worried about the New Japan stuff... Ospreay/Cassidy, and Mox/Tana's stuff were the highest segments of the night. you are still not wrong,that indicates the main event started low but gaining viewers as it went. The Christian segment was like...1 minute. It means Bucks vs JE gained more than 100k Viewers Keep in mind it was around 15 minutes of promo and ommercials beforehand. Likely a lot of people just tuned back in when the match started
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 16, 2022 19:30:56 GMT -5
If hockey had this much of an impact then apparently a fifth of Dynamite's US viewership is Canadian immigrants.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 16, 2022 19:30:56 GMT -5
"Weak lead-in resulting in a weaker number" is a weird-sounding excuse on paper, but there's decades' worth of evidence that strong lead-ins help with ratings on both network and cable. Just one of those quirks of television ratings. It's why a lot of TV shows used to do back to back premieres, in some cases, they still have giant premiere blocks to try and keep strong lead ins and viewership around From my neck of the woods, a strong example is, if a newer Nicktoon or Nick show is premiering? What's gonna lead it in? A new SpongeBob episode. The proven draw, the proven powerhouse. What's gonna lead in the FOX Animated Shows that are lesser known? A Simpsons, Family Guy, or Bob's Burgers, proven draws, proven to carry fans over into the next half hour In AEW's case, getting lead in with the same four TNT movies wasn't the greatest strat in the world... getting lead in by Big Bang Theory where, we mock it a lot on FAN, it gets over a million viewers very consistently in reruns, they carry over to Dynamite? You always take that, especially when you can retain a decent portion of them every time.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 16, 2022 19:32:47 GMT -5
If hockey had this much of an impact then apparently a fifth of Dynamite's US viewership is Canadian immigrants. It apparently draws super well in Canada, actually, someone on FAN said this. But I mean plenty of American fans do like Hockey, or they couldn't have multiple Florida, Texas and an Arizona team I'd imagine
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jun 16, 2022 19:34:09 GMT -5
If hockey had this much of an impact then apparently a fifth of Dynamite's US viewership is Canadian immigrants. Well maybe they all knew Ethan Page would lose to Miro and boycotted the show?
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Post by Cyno on Jun 16, 2022 19:35:30 GMT -5
If hockey had this much of an impact then apparently a fifth of Dynamite's US viewership is Canadian immigrants. Well maybe they all knew Ethan Page would lose to Miro and boycotted the show? Not a smart move to boycott a Shin Megami Tensai protagonist.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jun 16, 2022 19:35:41 GMT -5
Just saying, if I didn't have to do this Disney trip this week, my presence at the show would brought in another 200k viewers.
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