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Post by Kalmia on Jul 3, 2022 10:36:46 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Theory's but I'm interested to see what he does with the briefcase and if he can step up to make himself seem like a threat to Roman. Anyone who's seen as a "corporate" choice has to work twice as hard to get over the crowds it seems, so it's going to be tough for him. On paper, he was one of the least interesting choices for the winner, too.
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Post by Legion on Jul 3, 2022 10:39:10 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling he's going to cash in on Drew, after Drew manages to win at Clash in the Castle.
That level of nuclear cheap heat from the UK crowd would be insane.
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Post by chronocross on Jul 3, 2022 10:42:50 GMT -5
Definitely getting "Chosen One Drew McIntyre" vibes from him. He's okay but I don't know I'd go that far in pushing him so soon to the MITB and a World Title match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2022 10:43:42 GMT -5
Also, "ridiculous overexposure?" Lmao what? He's been on the main roster for less than a year and he's been an upper midcarder for most of it Theory had a fairly long angle with Vince that led to him working the semi-main of WrestleMania, he's guaranteed one or two appearances on Raw every week, and just last night he wrestled twice and won a main event he was shoehorned into at the last minute. Most upper midcarders don't get such an obvious push, and he's overexposed as a result IMO.
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Post by Fade on Jul 3, 2022 12:32:27 GMT -5
Surprised a little this is the reaction to him. Very good in the ring, good and getting heat with his promos and at 25 years old has a ton of room to get even better. This is what investing young talent looks like. The thing this forum allegedly wants them to do. Yeah. If he was in any other company, people would yell âpush this dudeâ. But the same âbland mediocrityâ complaint could come up. Maybe. Maybe not. WWEâs presentation is the crux I think. Definitely getting "Chosen One Drew McIntyre" vibes from him. He's okay but I don't know I'd go that far in pushing him so soon to the MITB and a World Title match. Really good comparison. Kind of makes me wonder if their careers will go similar ways lol. I absolutely get the backlash over the hard on they have for him. Its repelling. It was with Cena, Roman, basically anyone theyâve strapped the rocket to.
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Post by Eunös â on Jul 3, 2022 12:52:06 GMT -5
My biggest issue with the whole thing is there were so many more interesting choices for MITB winner in that match.
Sami having the brief case could have been huge fun..A guy who is constantly about to cash it on but chickens out at the last minute.
Madcap Moss could have been fun.
Hell I would have even preferred Omos.
But nope, this guy.
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Post by PTBartman on Jul 3, 2022 13:19:01 GMT -5
My theory is that he sucks. He sure as hell ain't Austin; that ain't theory, that's stone cold truth.
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Jul 3, 2022 13:22:04 GMT -5
I donât get Theory, like what about him specifically stands out? Thereâs been much better talent to come out of NXT who never got a fraction of the chances heâs had.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 3, 2022 13:27:14 GMT -5
Also, "ridiculous overexposure?" Lmao what? He's been on the main roster for less than a year and he's been an upper midcarder for most of it Theory had a fairly long angle with Vince that led to him working the semi-main of WrestleMania, he's guaranteed one or two appearances on Raw every week, and just last night he wrestled twice and won a main event he was shoehorned into at the last minute. Most upper midcarders don't get such an obvious push, and he's overexposed as a result IMO. Also his gimmick is just generic cocky heel... which... there's really nothing to. If he was still doing the dumb jock from the Way that at least adds a dimension... but as it is you can replace Theory with about a dozen guys and not much would change.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jul 3, 2022 13:32:11 GMT -5
sounds like this'll be a really easy one for them to play out, no controversy or major issues in the foseeable from my end at all IMO
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 3, 2022 13:33:53 GMT -5
My biggest issue with the whole thing is there were so many more interesting choices for MITB winner in that match. Sami having the brief case could have been huge fun..A guy who is constantly about to cash it on but chickens out at the last minute. Madcap Moss could have been fun. Hell I would have even preferred Omos. But nope, this guy. Drew finally using it to get back into the main event after basically puttering about since losing the belt... Rollins using it to taunt Roman (even if he really doesn't need it) Sami as the conspiracy victim and "member" of the bloodline could have added some much needed dimension to them, with Roman getting even more paranoid when Sami's around. Moss getting it and finally getting out of his young boy attire. Riddle getting an actual shot at Roman for them injuring his buddy (though tainted a bit by just how Roman tossed him aside already) Sheamus could have another big brawl with Roman... but he's not gonna beat Roman either. Omos... shouldn't be anywhere near the title Theory is just kinda there...
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Post by 4real on Jul 3, 2022 13:36:54 GMT -5
What a way to kill the show lol. At least it wasnât Moss or Omos I guess.
My issue with Theory winning is Iâm not sure where this goes from here. No way he is cashing in on Roman. If Drew wins in Cardiff and Theory cashes in on himâŠ.oh man just thatâs the most WWE thing they could do huh?
Zayn or Seth winning just seemed more interesting but whatever. Honestly I hope Theory fails the cash in he could do with getting some comeuppance.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 3, 2022 13:38:10 GMT -5
I'm probably just grasping at straws as all indications are that Cena isn't scheduled for Summerslam but if he is I'd have him face Theory with the MITB case on the line. Cena says on TV ahead of time that if he wins he's cashing in that night and making the main event a triple threat and attempting to make history and win title #17. Then Cena beats Theory and we get Reigns/Lesnar/Cena which sounds way more exciting than yet another Reigns/Lesnar match. Cena obviously wouldn't win that one but a 3 way last man standing would be interesting. I guess you would have to put both opponents down for the count of 10? Theory can interfere and help take Cena out to get his heat back and potentially set up a rematch for Wrestlemania.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 3, 2022 13:38:34 GMT -5
Theory had a fairly long angle with Vince that led to him working the semi-main of WrestleMania, he's guaranteed one or two appearances on Raw every week, and just last night he wrestled twice and won a main event he was shoehorned into at the last minute. Most upper midcarders don't get such an obvious push, and he's overexposed as a result IMO. Also his gimmick is just generic cocky heel... which... there's really nothing to. If he was still doing the dumb jock from the Way that at least adds a dimension... but as it is you can replace Theory with about a dozen guys and not much would change. As he is, Theory wouldnât be out of place in mid 2000s WWE where there werenât really âcharactersâ as much as different flavors of Randy Orton. In the 2020s when they seemingly go out of their way to give everyone a character, even if it doesnât gel with them in any way, to not keep the guy with the character people loved in NXT to basically nothing but âcocky heelâ is a weird choice.
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 3, 2022 15:43:42 GMT -5
Surprised a little this is the reaction to him. Very good in the ring, good and getting heat with his promos and at 25 years old has a ton of room to get even better. This is what investing young talent looks like. The thing this forum allegedly wants them to do. Yeah. If he was in any other company, people would yell âpush this dudeâ. But the same âbland mediocrityâ complaint could come up. Maybe. Maybe not. WWEâs presentation is the crux I think. This is definitely not true. Theory is basically a worse Sammy Guevara in every capacity and nobody is asking Sammy Guevara to get a rocket strapped to him at this point. Theory is just a guy. There's nothing special about his look, his in ring ability, his charisma, his mic work, etc. Hell his current gimmick is basically less interesting 2014 Tyler Breeze only with a weird Vince McMahon corporate backing. I'd compare it to Drew too but at least Drew is really tall and didn't win MITB this fast (or ever).
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 3, 2022 15:43:51 GMT -5
This is what investing young talent looks like. The thing this forum allegedly wants them to do. I haaaaaate this line of thought because it always carries with it the idea that there are people who just broadly want anybody pushed while having no standards for it past their age. It's just an absurd strawman. Even when people just blanket say they want new people pushed it's an absurd reach to read that as being open to literally anyone on the planet so long as they're within a certain age group.
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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Jul 3, 2022 15:46:13 GMT -5
Theory has one thing going for him: a million dollar smile. Just look at my sig.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 3, 2022 16:10:59 GMT -5
This is what investing young talent looks like. The thing this forum allegedly wants them to do. I haaaaaate this line of thought because it always carries with it the idea that there are people who just broadly want anybody pushed while having no standards for it past their age. It's just an absurd strawman. Even when people just blanket say they want new people pushed it's an absurd reach to read that as being open to literally anyone on the planet so long as they're within a certain age group. As I've said every time it comes up. It's like if you say you are hungry and someone gives you dog food. Then someone responding with "Well you said you wanted FOOD". That is not what the first person meant and everyone knows it.
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Post by Fade on Jul 3, 2022 16:11:31 GMT -5
Yeah. If he was in any other company, people would yell âpush this dudeâ. But the same âbland mediocrityâ complaint could come up. Maybe. Maybe not. WWEâs presentation is the crux I think. This is definitely not true. Theory is basically a worse Sammy Guevara in every capacity and nobody is asking Sammy Guevara to get a rocket strapped to him at this point. Theory is just a guy. There's nothing special about his look, his in ring ability, his charisma, his mic work, etc. Hell his current gimmick is basically less interesting 2014 Tyler Breeze only with a weird Vince McMahon corporate backing. I'd compare it to Drew too but at least Drew is really tall and didn't win MITB this fast (or ever). Iâd say theoryâs infinity better and has more potential than Sammy at this point tbh but neither here nor there.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 3, 2022 16:12:35 GMT -5
This is what investing young talent looks like. The thing this forum allegedly wants them to do. I haaaaaate this line of thought because it always carries with it the idea that there are people who just broadly want anybody pushed while having no standards for it past their age. It's just an absurd strawman. Even when people just blanket say they want new people pushed it's an absurd reach to read that as being open to literally anyone on the planet so long as they're within a certain age group. Also, like, the crowd does cheer for people who they want pushed. There's a difference between who actually gets pushed and who the crowd cheers to be pushed and that very rarely blends well together for some reason. Heck, Cody Rhodes being the most over babyface and them treating him like the most over babyface is the biggest outlier of the past decade to almost anything WWE's done in terms of getting a new talent over. And they had to get him from another company.
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