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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 5, 2022 18:24:40 GMT -5
Here is finally the Lex Luger ICONS documentary. Many of us were waiting for it.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Aug 5, 2022 18:49:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure to catch that episode.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Aug 5, 2022 18:53:17 GMT -5
That's what I'm saying though, I watch some spanish wrestling here and there, and I can't understand a word of it when they talk, but since wrestling is visual/physical, you can pick up on what's going on and follow along. But if the company were doing a documentary on the backstage fights of two of their wrestlers and the company, I wouldn't be the first go-to for a talking head on it. That's just a comical decision. For example, they had tj and nattie on this, but they were related to bret and around him and the family, and tj later on said he was the go between between shawn and bret coming back together at the end. So there's a reason for them to be interviewed. Kevin owens is there for the "guy currently in the company for the younger fans to relate to" talking head, except, if he can't understand the language and only knows what is visually on the screen, how would you use that as a commentary on what was happening at the time? "I didn't know vince was the owner, I thought he was just a commentator!" is coming from the point of view of not understanding a word that anyone is saying, lol. So they would have left out a big piece of kevin owens' point of view by including that statement from him on this. The contract thing, it seems like they tried to present the 1996 signing as the 1997 situation. "His contract was running out" makes it seems as if it's his existing contract was running out. Not "vince broke the existing deal, opened a window of time for him to negotiate the wcw deal, sign with wcw, and his end date with wwf is approaching" his contract is running out. They presented it as "his existing contract is running out and he's decided to go to other company, but he's our champion, and here's madusa throwing the women's title in the trash, so company man shawn michaels stepped in to save the day" kind of thing. And they never mention bret saying he was fine losing the belt to anyone other than shawn, or give bret any kind of defense in the situation, all of the talking heads are "bret was wrong, do what's best for the company, etc". Just my impressions while watching the show. I enjoy watching wrestling on other channels and seeing something different like this and those a and e biography shows, but some of the timeline stuff being out of order to present things differently drives me nuts, along with the "it didn't happen the way you remember it....this is the official company version of the events" way it comes across. move on with the thread As a kid in 1997, I thought Vince was just a commentator too. My dad might have tipped me off about Vince being the owner, but I honestly don’t know if I knew before the whole Montreal situation
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Post by cjh on Aug 5, 2022 19:01:32 GMT -5
Regarding Vince being outed on TV as the owner, it happened multiple times in 1996-97 when he was still the host of Raw and the PPVs. Steve Austin, months before giving Vince the Stunner at MSG, said in a promo that Gorilla Monsoon was a puppet following Vince's orders, plus Shawn Michaels also mentioned Vince was the boss while Vince was interviewing him during the build up to Bret/Undertaker at SummerSlam.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 7, 2022 18:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by fw91 on Aug 7, 2022 18:51:59 GMT -5
Do we really need a DX bio?
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Post by fw91 on Aug 7, 2022 19:01:05 GMT -5
Will this be good? I DON'T KNOW!!!!
Ok, that's out of the way. Let's watch this.
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Post by fw91 on Aug 7, 2022 19:13:58 GMT -5
eh, I'm kinda of waiting until they get to the 93-94 run and where and why it cooled off
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 7, 2022 19:14:59 GMT -5
Lex seems like such a nice, positive guy which is remarkable considering the things he’s been through.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 7, 2022 19:18:40 GMT -5
Luger was checking his junk even back in Florida.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 7, 2022 19:39:21 GMT -5
eh, I'm kinda of waiting until they get to the 93-94 run and where and why it cooled off Will they cover their mistakes, like trying to make him the next Hogan All American guy instead of letting him be Luger? Or the stupidity of the finish and celebration of the SummerSlam main?
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 7, 2022 19:40:29 GMT -5
Luger saying he was told by doctors about possibly losing his injured arm from the motorcycle wreck sounds horrifying.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 7, 2022 19:43:34 GMT -5
"Narcissus"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2022 19:47:20 GMT -5
I kind of want an artbook of all those concepts arts.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 7, 2022 19:57:58 GMT -5
Have to laugh at them basing Lex Express off of George Bush's train campaign, when Bush lost that election pretty handily.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 7, 2022 20:03:41 GMT -5
X-Pac:"Huh?!"
My exact thoughts.
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Post by cjh on Aug 7, 2022 20:04:30 GMT -5
I liked that they aired outtakes from his outdoor interview with Vince.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 7, 2022 20:05:47 GMT -5
They're damn right to shit on that finish and Lex not winning the title. He absolutely should have won the title. You either have him drop it back to Yokozuna a couple of months later, or you pivot and turn Lex heel and Bret slays him at Mania.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 7, 2022 20:10:43 GMT -5
For those watching. How's this documentary been lately?
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Post by jason1980s on Aug 7, 2022 20:32:19 GMT -5
eh, I'm kinda of waiting until they get to the 93-94 run and where and why it cooled off Will they cover their mistakes, like trying to make him the next Hogan All American guy instead of letting him be Luger? Or the stupidity of the finish and celebration of the SummerSlam main? No, a majority of the 1993 Lex Express was about Lex being a POS, according to Vince loyalists like Bruce and Jerry Brisco. They sure enough found every possible clip they could find of him ignoring fans and acting pretty disrespectful. With 30 minutes left, it's definitely geared towards a "fall and rise" of Lex Luger. But you can tell Bruce really holds resentment for Lex to this day, for Lex not being all in for Vince's vision and leaving Vince high and dry in 1995.
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