Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 3:27:50 GMT -5
watching the monday night war one, and five minutes in, they're doing the "wcw stole established wwf stars to use on their programs..." as if the wwf didn't go around taking everyone else's stars ten years earlier, lol. "we built hulk up and they poached him from us" etc type of stuff. (I just saw the end of the lex one, so I'm waiting to see the first half/whole program, but I came in at road wild 97 where he beat hulk, and from there on it was a good show and I liked it).
This monday night war one so far is poor wwf being picked on, "competition is one thing, but some of wcw's tactics were on the personal side", guess they didn't like their own ways being used against them. Now they're saying wcw had the adult audience, and we had the kids audience, so we had to abandon our audience and our own show to chase their audience, essentially telling everyone that liked their own show to go away and "you liked the bad stuff", even though that's when the show was better.
I always laugh at the austin and mike tyson thing, austin had a broken neck and hadn't had an actual match in how long while he was recovering, but he was supposed to be a threat to able bodied tyson. I love them saying "95/96 wwf was a cartoon for kids" and then five minutes later has austin vs mcmahon endlessly week after week like a cartoon, as if if this were real, vince wouldn't have austin arrested or they'd get into a fight for real, but no, instead, we're going to have a match next week where I definitely for sure will take the title from austin. I love that this whole show is saying "if it has a larger audience, that means it's better". The shows were better in 95/96, and this "chasing moments to build an audience" is what led to how the show is today. "look how wacky and crazy we are" instead of building stories that make sense, because that would take longer than five minutes. Now they just jumped from jan 1999 to jan 2001, lol. I'm guessing that they aren't going to acknowledge losing half the audience and millions of people thinking wrestling isn't cool anymore after they "won the war" because that would make them look bad and you'd have to acknowledge that they weren't actually wrestling fans and were just getting into "the cool thing" that was cool at the time. At least they are blaming the time warner merger for wcw being cancelled and saying they weren't mad at the actual wrestlers and the fans were mad that there was one less company for people to watch. Overall, this was the usual crap story they always tell about this, nothing new. They've done ten million "the monday night war" shows, and this was the same story, nothing new. The talking smack episode after the show, says the rick rude on wcw/wwf at the same time thing as something new that no one ever knew before, lol
Now the lex luger episode. I've always liked lex as a fan watching the shows. So far, this is really good. First thing to mention to me, is the guys (barry windham/cornette) talking about lex's guaranteed contract when he wasn't this technical wrestling genius, he looked the part credibly (his body was believable, so it's not like he was harvey wippleman being pushed as the incredible hulk) and the fans were into him and liked him, so who cares if he could do ten million moves if he was helping the show and selling tickets. I loved the narcissist character and thought it was a great fit for lex, and instead they turn him into hulk's mr america character, and then they get mad at it for not fitting in the character they forced him to do, lol. His whole character for his whole career was look how great I am, and they were mad that he cut hulk hogan "I'm one of you" type of promos to get the crowd behind him. When had lex luger ever done rah rah go usa type of stuff? He was always a "I'm a better athlete than you" heel. And we weren't mad at japan at the time, so he's rah rah usa against the evil japanese yoko, and then they blame him for not being hulk shaking hands and cutting promos to get the crowd behind him, lol. They're blaming lex for not wanting to do the role they put him in after taking him out of the role that he was most suited for, lol. That was "hulk left, you're the closest physically to hulk, so now you're the new hulk" and shoving him into a role, instead of saying "what are you strong at, let's do that" which is what he was already doing. They showed the ecw francine's appearance with lex. Thankfully they're going after the stupid booking around the summerslam-wrestlemania title match and not going after luger for it. You don't do this big babyface build and then have him lose the actual match, lol.
They didn't the clip of lex and sting as a team, and sting is in front of lex shaking the fan's hands and lex when sting isn't looking is just walking, and when sting turns around lex starts shaking the fans hands too, lol. And I liked the giant and bill goldberg saying they liked lex and he would help them out. And that brings the show back up to road wild 97 where I started watching. No mention of the "your t-shirt is too tight too billy!" promo, that could've added some comedy in during the "Everything is going wrong and falling apart" period
so to sum up: lex luger show: very good and I enjoyed it.
monday night war show: bleh and skip
This monday night war one so far is poor wwf being picked on, "competition is one thing, but some of wcw's tactics were on the personal side", guess they didn't like their own ways being used against them. Now they're saying wcw had the adult audience, and we had the kids audience, so we had to abandon our audience and our own show to chase their audience, essentially telling everyone that liked their own show to go away and "you liked the bad stuff", even though that's when the show was better.
I always laugh at the austin and mike tyson thing, austin had a broken neck and hadn't had an actual match in how long while he was recovering, but he was supposed to be a threat to able bodied tyson. I love them saying "95/96 wwf was a cartoon for kids" and then five minutes later has austin vs mcmahon endlessly week after week like a cartoon, as if if this were real, vince wouldn't have austin arrested or they'd get into a fight for real, but no, instead, we're going to have a match next week where I definitely for sure will take the title from austin. I love that this whole show is saying "if it has a larger audience, that means it's better". The shows were better in 95/96, and this "chasing moments to build an audience" is what led to how the show is today. "look how wacky and crazy we are" instead of building stories that make sense, because that would take longer than five minutes. Now they just jumped from jan 1999 to jan 2001, lol. I'm guessing that they aren't going to acknowledge losing half the audience and millions of people thinking wrestling isn't cool anymore after they "won the war" because that would make them look bad and you'd have to acknowledge that they weren't actually wrestling fans and were just getting into "the cool thing" that was cool at the time. At least they are blaming the time warner merger for wcw being cancelled and saying they weren't mad at the actual wrestlers and the fans were mad that there was one less company for people to watch. Overall, this was the usual crap story they always tell about this, nothing new. They've done ten million "the monday night war" shows, and this was the same story, nothing new. The talking smack episode after the show, says the rick rude on wcw/wwf at the same time thing as something new that no one ever knew before, lol
Now the lex luger episode. I've always liked lex as a fan watching the shows. So far, this is really good. First thing to mention to me, is the guys (barry windham/cornette) talking about lex's guaranteed contract when he wasn't this technical wrestling genius, he looked the part credibly (his body was believable, so it's not like he was harvey wippleman being pushed as the incredible hulk) and the fans were into him and liked him, so who cares if he could do ten million moves if he was helping the show and selling tickets. I loved the narcissist character and thought it was a great fit for lex, and instead they turn him into hulk's mr america character, and then they get mad at it for not fitting in the character they forced him to do, lol. His whole character for his whole career was look how great I am, and they were mad that he cut hulk hogan "I'm one of you" type of promos to get the crowd behind him. When had lex luger ever done rah rah go usa type of stuff? He was always a "I'm a better athlete than you" heel. And we weren't mad at japan at the time, so he's rah rah usa against the evil japanese yoko, and then they blame him for not being hulk shaking hands and cutting promos to get the crowd behind him, lol. They're blaming lex for not wanting to do the role they put him in after taking him out of the role that he was most suited for, lol. That was "hulk left, you're the closest physically to hulk, so now you're the new hulk" and shoving him into a role, instead of saying "what are you strong at, let's do that" which is what he was already doing. They showed the ecw francine's appearance with lex. Thankfully they're going after the stupid booking around the summerslam-wrestlemania title match and not going after luger for it. You don't do this big babyface build and then have him lose the actual match, lol.
They didn't the clip of lex and sting as a team, and sting is in front of lex shaking the fan's hands and lex when sting isn't looking is just walking, and when sting turns around lex starts shaking the fans hands too, lol. And I liked the giant and bill goldberg saying they liked lex and he would help them out. And that brings the show back up to road wild 97 where I started watching. No mention of the "your t-shirt is too tight too billy!" promo, that could've added some comedy in during the "Everything is going wrong and falling apart" period
so to sum up: lex luger show: very good and I enjoyed it.
monday night war show: bleh and skip
