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Post by attitudeeraguy22 on Jul 22, 2022 13:56:52 GMT -5
A lot of talk about Four Pillars or how WWE struggles to build new stars, but I’d argue WWE has a brighter outlook with their talent than AEW. Let’s not even discuss the women’s roster because that’s not a comparison.
AEW: MJF (status TBD), Jungle Boy, Darby, Martins, Garcia, Guevara, Hook, Starks, Wardlow
WWE: Breakker, Theory, Ford, Steveson, Moss, Solo, Hayes, Dominik, Boogs, Creeds, Waller, Gunther, Butch
Plus guys that haven’t even hit their first main event run yet like Riddle.
I think WWE has a pretty solid future in place, but it seems like it’s an often debated point.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jul 22, 2022 14:00:36 GMT -5
WWE's general ineptitude with booking will kill the momentum of most if not all of these stars completely.
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Post by attitudeeraguy22 on Jul 22, 2022 14:04:48 GMT -5
WWE's general ineptitude with booking will kill the momentum of most if not all of these stars completely. Just like they botched Lesnar, Cena, Batista, Orton and Reigns, Rollins, Moxley ten years later right?
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jul 22, 2022 14:26:48 GMT -5
WWE's general ineptitude with booking will kill the momentum of most if not all of these stars completely. Just like they botched Lesnar, Cena, Batista, Orton and Reigns, Rollins, Moxley ten years later right? 4 guys twenty years ago, and 3 guys out of the many people they've tried to make a star since the 2010s is not exactly a good track record, and in the case of Roman it took about 5 or 6 failed attempts to get him over before they found something that worked. Most of the genuine stars WWE's had since then are people who were stars before they came to WWE (Like Kevin Owens, AJ Styles or Cody Rhodes) or people who WWE actively tried to prevent becoming a star (Daniel Bryan, or CM Punk). There's also considerably more people who could have been stars who they fumbled badly (Dolph Ziggler, Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn, Finn Balor, Neville, Etc.) that give me more than enough confidence to say the majority of the people you listed will be stuck in midcard hell doing nothing and be released.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2022 14:31:51 GMT -5
You have a very clear gimmick with your account, I'll give you that, very on the nose name too.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 22, 2022 14:38:37 GMT -5
Let’s not even discuss the women’s roster because that’s not a comparison. I mean, there is? I think the standard talking point that WWE is miles ahead of AEW in terms of female talent just isn't as clear cut anymore. AEW also has a pipeline into Japan now which can provide them a ton of top tier talent.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 22, 2022 14:42:07 GMT -5
WWE's future: A billionaire sex offender continues to make money and suffer zero comeuppance.
AEW's future: The above does not happen.
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Post by Venti on Jul 22, 2022 14:46:48 GMT -5
You have a very clear gimmick with your account, I'll give you that, very on the nose name too. Bro not everyone who isn't kissing AEW's proverbial ass is a gimmick poster. I've seen this person's posts, he seems like a regular poster like everyone else. You gonna call me a gimmick poster or a concern troll because I don't happen to particularly like AEW?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 22, 2022 14:49:50 GMT -5
You have a very clear gimmick with your account, I'll give you that, very on the nose name too. Bro not everyone who isn't kissing AEW's proverbial ass is a gimmick poster. I've seen this person's posts, he seems like a regular poster like everyone else. You gonna call me a gimmick poster or a concern troll because I don't happen to particularly like AEW? No, and I've seen this persons posts too in the last 24 hours, been a pretty clear directive about what they want to do. I said what I said and I stand by it, and no not everyone who dislikes AEW is a gimmick poster, thanks for putting those words in my mouth though. Just threads like this? Pretty damn blatant, especially putting it in the WWE Board. Hate AEW all you want, but I'm gonna point this stuff out when I see it, and so are others.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 22, 2022 14:51:05 GMT -5
Even the younger guys AEW's planting seeds for that I don't think are very good like Sammy Guevara and Garcia and Hook are way the f*** more interesting than someone like Theory or Moss is ever going to be.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 22, 2022 14:52:25 GMT -5
You have a very clear gimmick with your account, I'll give you that, very on the nose name too. Bro not everyone who isn't kissing AEW's proverbial ass is a gimmick poster. I've seen this person's posts, he seems like a regular poster like everyone else. You gonna call me a gimmick poster or a concern troll because I don't happen to particularly like AEW? A look through the post history shows zero posts in the AEW board until recently, and it's to claim AEW are in trouble with their "bad" ratings of just shy of a million. And then this thread.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 22, 2022 14:54:11 GMT -5
Can we not with any of this?
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 22, 2022 14:55:32 GMT -5
I think WWE is set up nicely with top stars for the next 5-10 years in both the men and women’s divisions so I certainly think there will be no shortage of stars there. AEW has a lot of in-their-prime stars , some a bit on the older side but I’d imagine many will still be around 5 years from now (Hangman, Mox if he’s still there, Cole if you consider him a top guy, Darby, Jungle Boy, and then MJF and Wardlow if they’re still there). So I think both companies are doing fine in this area and there will obviously be some exchanging back and forth of talent .
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Post by joeiscool on Jul 22, 2022 14:59:22 GMT -5
I think it's a tired argument that WWE doesn't create stars...
Think of The New Day it's crazy to say The New Day aren't stars especially if you compare them to wrestlers like hangman page or Jay lethal
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 22, 2022 14:59:44 GMT -5
I don't see how this conversation ends up constructive at all, that's just a weirdo pissing war waiting to happen, but I will say that Steveson needs to at least do a wrestle before he's being heralded as actually a future of anything.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Jul 22, 2022 15:01:02 GMT -5
I don't see how this conversation ends up constructive at all, that's just a weirdo pissing war waiting to happen, but I will say that Steveson needs to at least do a wrestle before he's being heralded as actually a future of anything. He's currently getting outshined by his brother already and his brother just materialized out of thin air like Hello I'm Damon Kemp
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Post by Gremlin on Jul 22, 2022 15:02:54 GMT -5
To each their own, I guess, but... Dominik?
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 22, 2022 15:05:32 GMT -5
Both have a lot of talent. Aew have a crowded main event. WWE have two world titles but little desire to move away from a a select few favourites. There's more room to shine outside the main event in aew.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 22, 2022 15:07:08 GMT -5
To each their own, I guess, but... Dominik? Yeah I’d knock him, Waller, Boogs, the Martins, and Garcia off the list.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Jul 22, 2022 15:09:32 GMT -5
Well f***ing hell it's definitely looking brighter now
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