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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Aug 8, 2022 8:17:44 GMT -5
Have I said Quibi? Cause Quibi was f***ing stupid even before a global pandemic
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 8, 2022 10:18:30 GMT -5
The HP/Compaq merger that saw the creation of, for a brief moment, a home PC juggernaut at a time lower cost machines were starting to eat the established player's lunches and there was no money in that field. To make matters worse, the resulting shambling corpse scrapped their in house RISC development right before that became the wave of the future.
Verizon mushing a dead rat (Yahoo) and dead pigeon (Aol) together to form OATH.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 8, 2022 11:13:33 GMT -5
NBC killing off the original Star Trek. Amusingly because their executives had the same illiteracy towards Nielsen ratings that several wrestling fans still have today. They only looked at the total viewership numbers and not the key demo numbers. Star Trek had poor overall viewership numbers, but did really strong in 18-49. Between that and the petty dislike of the show for a number of reasons, they screwed themselves out of a lot of ad revenue. Syndicated reruns of TOS doing better in both demo and total viewership than several first run network shows only emphasized how much they screwed up.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Aug 8, 2022 12:15:05 GMT -5
Just Miramax. Harvey Weinstein initially wanted Jackson to make a trilogy, consisting of The Hobbit and a two-part adaptation of Lord of the Rings. When he couldn't get the rights to The Hobbit, he tried to bully Jackson into cutting the two-part Lord of the Rings down to a single two-hour movie, going so far as to say that if Jackson didn't do it Weinstein already had Quentin Tarantino's agreement to take over. Good god, can you imagine that movie? Close-ups of hobbit feet? Frodo saying the N word way more than he did in the books?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 8, 2022 12:28:55 GMT -5
NBC killing off the original Star Trek. Amusingly because their executives had the same illiteracy towards Nielsen ratings that several wrestling fans still have today. They only looked at the total viewership numbers and not the key demo numbers. Star Trek had poor overall viewership numbers, but did really strong in 18-49. Between that and the petty dislike of the show for a number of reasons, they screwed themselves out of a lot of ad revenue. Syndicated reruns of TOS doing better in both demo and total viewership than several first run network shows only emphasized how much they screwed up. Hell, in another area, wasn't Star Trek good at shifting those new, colour TVs? It was making money in a lot of places.
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Post by Gremlin on Aug 8, 2022 12:47:26 GMT -5
Close-ups of hobbit feet? Frodo saying the N word way more than he did in the books? I’m gonna call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin' nazgul, who'll go to work on holmes here with a pair of broadswords and a fellbeast.
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Post by salz4life on Aug 8, 2022 14:04:39 GMT -5
90210 is still fairly popular in pop culture and 90's nostalgia is the rage right now. "So, here's a reboot with the original cast (except Luke Perry, for obvious reasons)....except it isn't really a reboot. We're playing versions of ourselves! The fans will LOVE it!" I thought it was ok... but I'm not surprised it failed.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 8, 2022 14:10:18 GMT -5
Amusingly because their executives had the same illiteracy towards Nielsen ratings that several wrestling fans still have today. They only looked at the total viewership numbers and not the key demo numbers. Star Trek had poor overall viewership numbers, but did really strong in 18-49. Between that and the petty dislike of the show for a number of reasons, they screwed themselves out of a lot of ad revenue. Syndicated reruns of TOS doing better in both demo and total viewership than several first run network shows only emphasized how much they screwed up. Hell, in another area, wasn't Star Trek good at shifting those new, colour TVs? It was making money in a lot of places. Thats why after the pilot they added all of the color to the bridge and uniforms. Make those color tvs pop.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 8, 2022 14:14:43 GMT -5
Hell, in another area, wasn't Star Trek good at shifting those new, colour TVs? It was making money in a lot of places. Thats why after the pilot they added all of the color to the bridge and uniforms. Make those color tvs pop. Yeah the uniform colors were fairly dull in The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before. Everything popped more in the episodes after.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 8, 2022 14:14:50 GMT -5
90210 is still fairly popular in pop culture and 90's nostalgia is the rage right now. "So, here's a reboot with the original cast (except Luke Perry, for obvious reasons)....except it isn't really a reboot. We're playing versions of ourselves! The fans will LOVE it!" I thought it was ok... but I'm not surprised it failed. Tori and Jennie have said that they planned the first season to build towards a show within a show for season 2 (and theoretically onward should it have worked). I just think they overestimated the desire of their target audience to sit through the first season enough to *get* there.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Aug 8, 2022 14:21:10 GMT -5
Thats why after the pilot they added all of the color to the bridge and uniforms. Make those color tvs pop. Yeah the uniform colors were fairly dull in The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before. Everything popped more in the episodes after. Executive decision. Notice when Gene had full control for the Motion Picture it was back to boring colors. Out of power for Wrath of Khan back to colors. TNG was the exception. Probably as they were worried about trying to look familiar in superficial ways to TOS so if it failed they could add it to the syndication package to recoup their losses.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 8, 2022 14:24:29 GMT -5
Yeah the uniform colors were fairly dull in The Cage and Where No Man Has Gone Before. Everything popped more in the episodes after. Executive decision. Notice when Gene had full control for the Motion Picture it was back to boring colors. Out of power for Wrath of Khan back to colors. TNG was the exception. Probably as they were worried about trying to look familiar in superficial ways to TOS so if it failed they could add it to the syndication package to recoup their losses. Some of the behind the scenes stuff between Roddenberry and everyone else was wild.
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Post by castletonsnob on Aug 8, 2022 16:22:16 GMT -5
Quizno's Spongmonkeys ads.
No, really. These were real commercials that ran on TV.
Who in the advertising boardroom looked at this and said, "This is a good idea!"?
Actually, Quizno's had a lot of terrible ads.
I'm sorry, but whoever's voicing the dog can't sing AT ALL.
And there was a version with cats.
I don't know about you, but my ears are BLEEDING!
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 9, 2022 3:13:32 GMT -5
The tape wiping/disposal practices of major broadcasters across the world that saw archive material destroyed right up to the DVD era. The BBC wiped archive music footage, dramas, Doctor Who, documentaries, pretty much the entirety of Tomorrow's World, things they could have reused or monetized for the past 20 years but are gone into the void.
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Post by castletonsnob on Aug 9, 2022 11:10:30 GMT -5
NBC and CBS passing on Monday Night Football.
To be fair, football was nowhere near as popular back then as it is today. Baseball was still considered the "national pastime". Football didn't overtake baseball in popularity until the 90s, after a strike caused the 1994 World Series to be canceled.
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Post by Dragonfly on Aug 10, 2022 6:13:20 GMT -5
The tape wiping/disposal practices of major broadcasters across the world that saw archive material destroyed right up to the DVD era. The BBC wiped archive music footage, dramas, Doctor Who, documentaries, pretty much the entirety of Tomorrow's World, things they could have reused or monetized for the past 20 years but are gone into the void. This practice goes way past the BBC. Pittsburgh NBC affiliate WPXI (then called WIIC) had two major local shows in the 60s and 70s: Studio Wrestling and Chiller Theater. The former treated Bruno as a full-on, Hogan-esque superhero, taking on or teaming with people who didn't always visit New York (The Crusher, The Original Sheik, Giant Baba, etc). Turned an entire generation of kids into wrestling fans, and made Bruno, his cousin Johnny DeFazio, referee Izzy Modell and superfan Ringside Rosie into A-list local celebrities. It also gave us George "The Animal" Steele. (The character was created to cater towards Pittsburgh's "unique" sensibilities.) The latter was a Svengoolie/Elvira like movie show hosted by former Studio Wrestling play-by-play man Bill Cardille. It was so popular that it preempted NBC's new sketch show... Something called Saturday Night Live. Chiller Theater also inspired SCTV's Monster Chiller Horror Theater sketches. (The man behind the sketches, Pittsburgh native Joe Flaherty, has said Count Floyd is just him doing a Bill Cardille impression.) WPXI could have made a mint on selling both of those shows to boomer yinzers, horror TV nerds and the WWE. Instead, they were wiped in favor of the 6:00 news. Very little of either program still exists.
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Post by fg on Aug 10, 2022 6:41:04 GMT -5
Not to sure if this counts but When the old DuMont network went defunct, all of their video footage was dumped into the already heavily polluted East River. Some of the pieces of footage were lots of Honeymooners sketches on Calvacade of Stars. While some Honeymooners Calvacade of Stars sketches have survived and can be viewed if you watch the Really Lost Debut episodes of Tge Honeymooners special, a lot are lost.
Seriously, someone could have made a mint selling home video copies of these from the 1980s to today.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 11, 2022 11:27:29 GMT -5
Was it Mattel who rejected the Star Wars license?
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Post by Sigma: Current SRW Champ! on Oct 11, 2022 11:40:45 GMT -5
Was it Mattel who rejected the Star Wars license? It was Mego. They went out of business in 1983. There is a revival, but it's more like a shell company.
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Post by burdette25159 on Oct 11, 2022 19:21:49 GMT -5
The tape wiping/disposal practices of major broadcasters across the world that saw archive material destroyed right up to the DVD era. The BBC wiped archive music footage, dramas, Doctor Who, documentaries, pretty much the entirety of Tomorrow's World, things they could have reused or monetized for the past 20 years but are gone into the void. At least telerecordings aka kinescopes of some of the wiped material exist in the BBC archives. The wiping of Doctor Who eps continued til the very end of the Pertwee era. In the late 1970s/Early 1980s, a number of colored Doctor Who Pertwee tapes were returned from overseas (mainly from Canada) but 26 pertwee eps still only existed on B&W kinescopes but color were ultimately restored to those episodes through various methods (Color signal from off air/NTSC color broadcast recordings from the mid/late 1970s combined with the B%W film Print, chromadot color recovery and manual colorization in the case of Mind of Evil Part 1)
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