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Post by lucas_lee on Aug 18, 2022 8:45:41 GMT -5
Yeah Meltz says Punk went into business for himself and no one knew he was gonna do that. Interesting, like it WAS continuity to their feud, I guess he didn't want to leave anything hanging and have something to revisit. The whole thing was if Punk won Hangman would have to apologize but then he got hurt literally the following Dynamite so... instead of dropping it, he kept it simmering, just like with Kingston, it's not "right now", but he damn sure wants it to be later. If thats the case why would Punk do that and bury one of their main guys if he's not planting seeds. Eddie I can understand because he's hurt that you can do. But Hangman was probably there backstage and that did him no favors except make him look weak. Hopefully they follow up on that. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 18, 2022 8:52:58 GMT -5
Interesting, like it WAS continuity to their feud, I guess he didn't want to leave anything hanging and have something to revisit. The whole thing was if Punk won Hangman would have to apologize but then he got hurt literally the following Dynamite so... instead of dropping it, he kept it simmering, just like with Kingston, it's not "right now", but he damn sure wants it to be later. If thats the case why would Punk do that and bury one of their main guys if he's not planting seeds. Eddie I can understand because he's hurt that you can do. But Hangman was probably there backstage and that did him no favors except make him look weak. Hopefully they follow up on that. I would assume they would or Khan would be furious about it. Punk probably wants Hangman again, for the title or not. I don't think it really hurts Hangman at all and all he can simply say is his mind is elsewhere and it doesn't make him a coward to want his friends to succeed. He's essentially putting his own career choices aside for Dark Order, there's a lot of merit to that |
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Post by Fade on Aug 18, 2022 8:55:13 GMT -5
I didn’t listen to Meltzer. It’s possible the “going into business bit” was fed to him to advance storylines. But if it’s real lol..
Punk never changed.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 18, 2022 8:57:40 GMT -5
Page is ranked first and Silver was awfully quick with his Twitter post of Hangman eating backstage. It could have been Punk going off script but I also wouldn't be surprised if someone is trying to work this here.
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Post by xtremehorseman on Aug 18, 2022 8:58:52 GMT -5
I didn’t listen to Meltzer. It’s possible the “going into business bit” was fed to him to advance storylines. But if it’s real lol.. Punk never changed. I'm pretty sure Meltzer has been insistent for like the last year that Punk and Hangman have legit problems with each other. |
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Aug 18, 2022 9:05:40 GMT -5
Doing something late 1997 Shawn Michaels did isn't the best look for Punk.
What a bitch.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 18, 2022 9:07:50 GMT -5
Interesting. I'm a huge Punk fan, but if he did that off script and nobody was aware, that's not cool. I could see somebody planting this stuff to get more of the internet crowd willing to boo Punk if this is leading to a full-on turn, but it did seem to come out of nowhere.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 18, 2022 9:09:00 GMT -5
Doing something late 1997 Shawn Michaels did isn't the best look for Punk. What a bitch. I'd wait for more sources to confirm this and the intention behind it before we just start strolling into "F*** CM Punk" town tbh. The promo was still in line with the storyline he did, it was continuity to the match and the result, it's not like he went out there and shot on Adam Page and buried the man without leaving it exactly within the storyline bracket that it was always in for future confrontations... |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 18, 2022 9:10:58 GMT -5
Interesting. I'm a huge Punk fan, but if he did that off script and nobody was aware, that's not cool. I could see somebody planting this stuff to get more of the internet crowd willing to boo Punk if this is leading to a full-on turn, but it did seem to come out of nowhere. Punk said when he beat Hangman, Hangman would owe him an apology Injury timing what it was, he could never ask for it, so one of the first things he did with a mic back from injury, was call Hangman out, demanding the apology. He got no response, so he called him a coward. Idk if he did that without telling anyone for sure, but again it's not like he said something that wasn't set up in storyline, his own storyline with Hangman. He just left it hanging on a note where when they pick up again, there's something there. He now has a disdain for Hangman, like Kingston. If people were upset backstage or Hangman was upset, that's a different story, but given Silver joked about it in seconds, I don't know if there's really any tension here regardless |
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Post by Fade on Aug 18, 2022 9:14:07 GMT -5
Doing something late 1997 Shawn Michaels did isn't the best look for Punk. What a bitch. I'd wait for more sources to confirm this and the intention behind it before we just start strolling into "F*** CM Punk" town tbh. The promo was still in line with the storyline he did, it was continuity to the match and the result, it's not like he went out there and shot on Adam Page and buried the man without leaving it exactly within the storyline bracket that it was always in for future confrontations... If it’s real and he “called him out” only so he could call him a coward, that isn’t burying him? “Storyline continuity” or not? |
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Aug 18, 2022 9:16:26 GMT -5
I'd wait for more sources to confirm this and the intention behind it before we just start strolling into "F*** CM Punk" town tbh. The promo was still in line with the storyline he did, it was continuity to the match and the result, it's not like he went out there and shot on Adam Page and buried the man without leaving it exactly within the storyline bracket that it was always in for future confrontations... If it’s real and he “called him out” only so he could call him a coward, that isn’t burying him? “Storyline continuity” or not? Especially if he knew Hangman couldn't/wouldn't respond to it. Shawn did the same thing to Taker. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 18, 2022 9:18:48 GMT -5
I'd wait for more sources to confirm this and the intention behind it before we just start strolling into "F*** CM Punk" town tbh. The promo was still in line with the storyline he did, it was continuity to the match and the result, it's not like he went out there and shot on Adam Page and buried the man without leaving it exactly within the storyline bracket that it was always in for future confrontations... If it’s real and he “called him out” only so he could call him a coward, that isn’t burying him? “Storyline continuity” or not? The entire point to do that would be to have Hangman prove him wrong down the line I would think Like Punk won their first match, demanded an apology, did not get it, and Punk called him a coward, and in storyline Hangman is kind of portraying this anyway? He won't fight in singles matches, he won't show incentive to get back to a title, he won't even team with anyone to go after the trios belts, he's playing corner man His self confidence seems shot again, and I think Punk leaned into that. I don't think Punk would go out there, and do a promo without having a plan, otherwise what's the point? You just piss your coworkers off and your boss. I don't see that adding up when they just got him back. I just don't think Punk wanted to leave a thread hang after injury to keep it warm for when they fight next. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 18, 2022 9:21:05 GMT -5
If it’s real and he “called him out” only so he could call him a coward, that isn’t burying him? “Storyline continuity” or not? Especially if he knew Hangman couldn't/wouldn't respond to it. Shawn did the same thing to Taker. The thing is Hangman CAN respond to it at any time, even this Friday, and all he has to say is his mind and his focus is on Dark Order, and he'll get to Punk later He was literally eating with Dark Order when Punk said the thing, there are plenty of things you can say and do here where it's not "Hangman's buried and that was just unnecessary", it's actually even more realistic to have a dude eating with friends and he probably didn't even hear the callout, you can spin this just fine imo. |
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Post by jp49er80 on Aug 18, 2022 9:22:00 GMT -5
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Post by Fade on Aug 18, 2022 9:22:58 GMT -5
If it’s real and he “called him out” only so he could call him a coward, that isn’t burying him? “Storyline continuity” or not? The entire point to do that would be to have Hangman prove him wrong down the line I would think Like Punk won their first match, demanded an apology, did not get it, and Punk called him a coward, and in storyline Hangman is kind of portraying this anyway? He won't fight in singles matches, he won't show incentive to get back to a title, he won't even team with anyone to go after the trios belts, he's playing corner man His self confidence seems shot again, and I think Punk leaned into that. I don't think Punk would go out there, and do a promo without having a plan, otherwise what's the point? You just piss your coworkers off and your boss. I don't see that adding up when they just got him back. I just don't think Punk wanted to leave a thread hang after injury to keep it warm for when they fight next. It’d be very unprofessional, indeed. |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 18, 2022 9:23:40 GMT -5
Interesting. I'm a huge Punk fan, but if he did that off script and nobody was aware, that's not cool. I could see somebody planting this stuff to get more of the internet crowd willing to boo Punk if this is leading to a full-on turn, but it did seem to come out of nowhere. Punk said when he beat Hangman, Hangman would owe him an apology Injury timing what it was, he could never ask for it, so one of the first things he did with a mic back from injury, was call Hangman out, demanding the apology. He got no response, so he called him a coward. Idk if he did that without telling anyone for sure, but again it's not like he said something that wasn't set up in storyline, his own storyline with Hangman. He just left it hanging on a note where when they pick up again, there's something there. He now has a disdain for Hangman, like Kingston. If people were upset backstage or Hangman was upset, that's a different story, but given Silver joked about it in seconds, I don't know if there's really any tension here regardless There is no story with Hangman, though, at least not now. Punk's story is with Mox. It doesn't do Hangman any favors at a time when he's already pretty cold to then have to contend with Punk going off-script and making him look like a loser who is afraid to confront Punk. If Hangman comes out next week and gets something back or the main event at All Out is actually a three-way, fair enough. The whole thing feels weird if it's not a work. As somebody that likes Punk, I'm hoping Meltzer got fed bum info. |
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 18, 2022 9:27:57 GMT -5
Punk said when he beat Hangman, Hangman would owe him an apology Injury timing what it was, he could never ask for it, so one of the first things he did with a mic back from injury, was call Hangman out, demanding the apology. He got no response, so he called him a coward. Idk if he did that without telling anyone for sure, but again it's not like he said something that wasn't set up in storyline, his own storyline with Hangman. He just left it hanging on a note where when they pick up again, there's something there. He now has a disdain for Hangman, like Kingston. If people were upset backstage or Hangman was upset, that's a different story, but given Silver joked about it in seconds, I don't know if there's really any tension here regardless There is no story with Hangman, though, at least not now. Punk's story is with Mox. It doesn't do Hangman any favors at a time when he's already pretty cold to then have to contend with Punk going off-script and making him look like a loser who is afraid to confront Punk. If Hangman comes out next week and gets something back or the main event at All Out is actually a three-way, fair enough. The whole thing feels weird if it's not a work. As somebody that likes Punk, I'm hoping Meltzer got fed bum info. I honestly hate this, I thought that promo was amazing and I thought the Hangman stuff was a great seed to plant for the future because it was a part of their storyline, the injury f***ed the timing up to do it. I also hope that Dave is off here because the last thing I want to see is Punk's big return immediately bogged down by the questions of him going off script and "Hurting Hangman", I frankly don't see why Punk would do that to himself when he has all the fanfare and momentum in the world right now. |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 18, 2022 9:29:42 GMT -5
There is no story with Hangman, though, at least not now. Punk's story is with Mox. It doesn't do Hangman any favors at a time when he's already pretty cold to then have to contend with Punk going off-script and making him look like a loser who is afraid to confront Punk. If Hangman comes out next week and gets something back or the main event at All Out is actually a three-way, fair enough. The whole thing feels weird if it's not a work. As somebody that likes Punk, I'm hoping Meltzer got fed bum info. I honestly hate this, I thought that promo was amazing and I thought the Hangman stuff was a great seed to plant for the future because it was a part of their storyline, the injury f***ed the timing up to do it. I also hope that Dave is off here because the last thing I want to see is Punk's big return immediately bogged down by the questions of him going off script and "Hurting Hangman", I frankly don't see why Punk would do that to himself when he has all the fanfare and momentum in the world right now. Sure. To be clear, my commentary here doesn't have to do with the quality of Punk's work. He clearly torched Mox last night and is head and shoulders above everybody in the company, IMO. I just don't think it's cool if he did that. I'm sure it'll clear itself up soon enough. |
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 18, 2022 9:42:54 GMT -5
Overall, the promo was great from Punk but the Hangman stuff was weird.
Hangman is a babyface that has never backed down from a challenge. He's been nervous about things and fallen at the last hurdle, but he's never outright walked away from a match. Faces shouldn't act in a cowardly way and they shouldn't be called out for being cowards, either. So the only way you can go is to say that Hangman wasn't in the building at the time (as the commentators hinted) and have him address the comments next week. Especially as Mox came out later in the same show and demanded a match with Punk. That makes Hangman's lack of a reaction look even worse.
Maybe it ties into what was going on with Hangman and Punk before the title switch and maybe it doesn't. But it did seem out of place in that promo. There are ways Punk could have addressed and challenged Hangman without being such a dick about it.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Aug 18, 2022 10:12:15 GMT -5
I love Punk but it’s always a pet peeve of mine when people conflate West Virginia with Virginia.
We haven’t been a part of Virginia since 1863 😂 got our own state flag and everything.
Also; Aaron’s Creek VA is 291 miles (5 hours according to Google maps) south-ish from Charleston
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