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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 4, 2022 23:10:36 GMT -5
8 before the main
9 after, and definitely after the MJF reveal package, perfect moment in wrestling for me.
They took some risks, not everyone will be on board with them doing that, but it I think could be well worth the reward
Do not regret my purchase, Trios Title Match might be Match of the Year btw.
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Post by markymark on Sept 4, 2022 23:10:54 GMT -5
The Jericho/Danielson match was great. But two of the matches I was looking forward to the most went under 5 minutes/barely started, the tag title match stretched out for what seemed like forever and just killed the Discord call I was in as everyone slowly lost any enthusiasm, and the main event was just... There. Was it? I found it very disappointing. That's def a match that's going be mixed
Yeah mixed like Mox vs Danielson Revolution 2022(imo that was more disappointing than tonights match which was fairly good)
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 4, 2022 23:10:54 GMT -5
Poor Ruby and Athena. TK did BOT “reset” the women’s division here tonight. Not with Jade, but Toni and the Britt/Jamie feud do help. He said it'd also reset more post All-Out. I am curious what he means there. Toni's first challenger maybe? Eh the Toni stuff just feels like doing what they were going to do anyway. Man for how long they dragged out the TBS title stuff, that “payoff” was a wet fart. Athena got Ruby’d here. I’m over the Jade stuff at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 23:10:59 GMT -5
I'll give a 7. This was AEW's weakest PPV so far, IMO.
They're getting a little too close to WWE's misery booking for my liking, but it still has a good way to go before it's that bad.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 23:11:26 GMT -5
6/10 from me
The wrestling always delivers, save for Jade still requiring a true ring general to have a decent to good match.
The booking, especially finishes, though? Shew.
Tony, buddy, hand the book over to Kenny or something for a minute, because you are tapped, my guy.
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Post by markymark on Sept 4, 2022 23:11:53 GMT -5
I'll give a 7. This was AEW's weakest PPV so far, IMO. They're getting a little too close to WWE's misery booking for my liking, but it still has a good way to go before it's that bad.
You never watched All Out 2020 or Revolution 2021?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 4, 2022 23:12:08 GMT -5
I'll say 8 and just repeat a couple things.
I think you have a couple instant classics with the Trios Final, The Tag Title Match, and the World Title Match (4 if you include Ishii/King)
I think Zero Hour as a whole was good, and I thought the 4 way women's title was good. The other 2 Trios matches were fun as well
I thought the ladder match was a bit disjointed but paying off for MJF makes it worth it.
Jericho/Danielson was boring. I THINK they're setting up for Garcia to get a big win over Jericho to catapult him up the ranks, but the match tonight fell flat
TBS title match was rough. I'm not gonna talk as much crap on Jade as some have been, but there's irony in that she has solid enough matches with other green wrestlers but struggles with vets
Not a fan of Starks/Hobbs being anti-climactic but I do appreciate that they are really building up the spinebuster as a one hit kill.
We all saw the Luchasaurus swerve coming. I guess SRS said that CHristian picked up an injury late, but that didn't hit.
Now onto the big thing. I think the big thing for the PPV that really soured people was how unexpectedly the crowd was 100 percent behind the Acclaimed and turned on Swerve and Lee. Like not saying the Acclaimed wasn't over as that would be a lie but a lie would be saying coming into tonight you would have expected that level of overness. Match was clearly designed to get Bowens and Caster over in defeat but crowd wanted that win. Not saying people didn't want them to win but seriously anybody who said they thought the Acclaimed were the hottest act in AEW before tonight is just lying. Those two should get the belts soon.
To go along with that, I say this as someone who weeks ago said I'd have Jayme win to start the Britt feud, I don't think anybody saw the crowd being so pro Hayter tonight either. Toni winning was the right call and she was supposed to win the belt before Rosa's injury but the crowd were Hayters tonight and despite a pretty decent match fans were just not into it.
Such a weird show, I think in the end, they should have probably not stacked the show and some things like JB/Christian and Starks/Hobbs are far from done but there's room to question for sure. I don't think the show was as poorly booked as some seem to think, but I do think the crowd reactions were unexpected.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 4, 2022 23:12:38 GMT -5
Not with Jade, but Toni and the Britt/Jamie feud do help. He said it'd also reset more post All-Out. I am curious what he means there. Toni's first challenger maybe? Eh the Toni stuff just feels like doing what they were going to do anyway. Man for how long they dragged out the TBS title stuff, that “payoff” was a wet fart. Athena got Ruby’d here. I’m over the Jade stuff at this point. Jade/Athena was gonna go longer, I think they capped it after too many sloppy spots. Statlander was going to beat Jade at Ashe, the plan hopefully stays course for someone to beat Jade in New York, which means Athena was never gonna win here And I'm glad Toni winning was still the plan, she needed to imo.
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Post by Killah Ray on Sept 4, 2022 23:13:27 GMT -5
Outside of the tag and even then I think TK made the wrong call on who won, the whole ppv just felt sort of there...at least they went with the obvious ending though....although it makes me just wonder what was the f***ing point of playing hot potato with the title for a week....
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 4, 2022 23:14:14 GMT -5
The Jericho/Danielson match was great. But two of the matches I was looking forward to the most went under 5 minutes/barely started, the tag title match stretched out for what seemed like forever and just killed the Discord call I was in as everyone slowly lost any enthusiasm, and the main event was just... There. Was it? I found it very disappointing. That's def a match that's going be mixed I really enjoyed it, I think in part due to fantastic commentary really putting over tactics, techniques and that side of things. The finish was a bit abrupt but with the Garcia stuff it actually has a purpose, so I don't hate it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 4, 2022 23:14:21 GMT -5
Tony, buddy, hand the book over to Kenny or something for a minute, because you are tapped, my guy. This is a huge overreaction to me tbh. Nothing about tonight seemed really egregious with the booking, just some risks And the main event got universally praised here, that finish was awesome and they set up a white hot title feud for even the next PPV very quickly I think it's fair to say Tony could have done some things differently, but people ready to call this "The great fall of Tony Khan" need to chill imo
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 4, 2022 23:14:56 GMT -5
6.5
The whole vibe just felt weird as hell, and I'm still salty about The Acclaimed.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Sept 4, 2022 23:15:48 GMT -5
7. MJF at the end saved it from being a 6. The ending of the tag match really took the wind out of the sails.
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 4, 2022 23:16:57 GMT -5
Eh the Toni stuff just feels like doing what they were going to do anyway. Man for how long they dragged out the TBS title stuff, that “payoff” was a wet fart. Athena got Ruby’d here. I’m over the Jade stuff at this point. Jade/Athena was gonna go longer, I think they capped it after too many sloppy spots. Statlander was going to beat Jade at Ashe, the plan hopefully stays course for someone to beat Jade in New York, which means Athena was never gonna win here And I'm glad Toni winning was still the plan, she needed to imo. Tony needs to learn to freaking improvise and adapt. There was no reason why Athena could not have won here. I’m tired of Jade no selling her opponents and then winning. She’s a less talented Roman Reigns at this point.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 4, 2022 23:17:36 GMT -5
I'll give a 7. This was AEW's weakest PPV so far, IMO. They're getting a little too close to WWE's misery booking for my liking, but it still has a good way to go before it's that bad. JB/Christian happened because Christian got hurt, I don't really blame them for that Jericho needed some momentum to, I think, lose to Garcia in the future, so there's a plan there, and Danielson losing via a low blow doesn't hurt Jade needs to lose the belt imo but it is what it is to me on that match, they didn't click Acclaimed/SIOG is a hard one to say for "misery booking", no one could have expected Acclaimed to be like Prime DX to that crowd, or Keith and Swerve to be that booed... but you set up a hell of a rematch there. Misery booking to me is when there's no hope for an angle and they've just killed someone, as you said it has a good way to go before it gets that bad, but AEW loves having the faces win the feuds like 80-90 percent of the time... so I trust them to continue the journey well into the end of this year.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 4, 2022 23:18:56 GMT -5
Jade/Athena was gonna go longer, I think they capped it after too many sloppy spots. Statlander was going to beat Jade at Ashe, the plan hopefully stays course for someone to beat Jade in New York, which means Athena was never gonna win here And I'm glad Toni winning was still the plan, she needed to imo. Tony needs to learn to freaking improvise and adapt. There was no reason why Athena could not have won here. I’m tired of Jade no selling her opponents and then winning. She’s a less talented Roman Reigns at this point. Athena was never gonna win here and imo she hadn't been booked to be the one to topple Jade I would pick Shida to do it at this point at Ashe, she's gotten a ton of momentum back, give Athena a new feud to sink into. Ruby and Athena vs TayJay imo is a good way to get both back up.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Sept 4, 2022 23:19:31 GMT -5
Jade/Athena was gonna go longer, I think they capped it after too many sloppy spots. Statlander was going to beat Jade at Ashe, the plan hopefully stays course for someone to beat Jade in New York, which means Athena was never gonna win here And I'm glad Toni winning was still the plan, she needed to imo. Tony needs to learn to freaking improvise and adapt. There was no reason why Athena could not have won here. I’m tired of Jade no selling her opponents and then winning. She’s a less talented Roman Reigns at this point. I’m hopeful they give it to Shida at Grand Slam. I personally haven’t been blown away by Athena since she’s showed up, TBH.
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Post by flowercity on Sept 4, 2022 23:19:40 GMT -5
Revolution is still the best show of the year. I liked this one, always have fun, but it sure dragged. Acclaimed losing really took the air out. The main event delivered. And the endings was really cool. I’d go 7.5/10
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2022 23:20:04 GMT -5
Tony, buddy, hand the book over to Kenny or something for a minute, because you are tapped, my guy. This is a huge overreaction to me tbh. Nothing about tonight seemed really egregious with the booking, just some risks And the main event got universally praised here, that finish was awesome and they set up a white hot title feud for even the next PPV very quickly I think it's fair to say Tony could have done some things differently, but people ready to call this "The great fall of Tony Khan" need to chill imo I am not just talking about tonight. Tony's had some real weird-ass booking going on since at least Double or Nothing. I am still a fan AEW, but acting like everyone's overreacting, especially when some of us watch it just as much as you do, is extremely dismissive and condescending.
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Post by Killah Ray on Sept 4, 2022 23:20:17 GMT -5
Jade/Athena was gonna go longer, I think they capped it after too many sloppy spots. Statlander was going to beat Jade at Ashe, the plan hopefully stays course for someone to beat Jade in New York, which means Athena was never gonna win here And I'm glad Toni winning was still the plan, she needed to imo. Tony needs to learn to freaking improvise and adapt. There was no reason why Athena could not have won here. I’m tired of Jade no selling her opponents and then winning. She’s a less talented Roman Reigns at this point. Let's be fair, for what Roman is tasked to do in the ring, he is eons ahead of Jade... I really don't understand how she struggles with vets so much...I'd like to see her with someone like Serena Deeb to see what she could get out of her..
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