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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 7, 2022 4:54:28 GMT -5
And also lets face it, another 2 months without wrestling is incredibly good news for Kenny Omega, as (and I don't know how much was kayfabe) he did look pretty beat up on his return. I strongly suspect he was playing it up for drama, but that yeah, he was unlikely to be 100 percent. More time to heal isn't a bad thing, sure, but I imagine he also can't really get to 100 percent without wrestling through ring rust either, though, so he's probably very frustrated being at home and unable to really commit to doing anything like AAA, etc, either while he's in limbo. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 7, 2022 5:18:34 GMT -5
What did Punk do back in the day for so many people to be THIS loyal to him? I mean, f***, I was a fan too, even bought his damn t-shirt in 2011 when he was on his massive run. But I was never so f***ing enamoured with the guy to the point where all common sense goes out the window. Shit, was WWE and TNA in 2003 so bad that these people owe such a debt to Punk for being the one plant in the pot of dirt? (Actually, I'm watching 2003 WWE right now, it's pretty grim  ) This has actually been a really interesting exercise in seeing the number of people who just liked a dude or who were really big fans and gave him their support within reason, and people who would take a bullet for the guy if offered. All this time I guess the "you wouldn't be mad at [homophobia/bullying/sexual abuse/racist slurs/bad booking/Saudi Arabia] if CM Punk was doing them" posts did have a target audience all along. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 7, 2022 6:06:40 GMT -5
Clearly this is all Adam Page's fault because of that curse he put on the Buckshot that led everyone else who used it to injury and madness. So apparently Logan Paul has been throwing Buckshots for quite some time before Crown Jewel? |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Nov 7, 2022 6:48:39 GMT -5
I have the theory that people are attached to CM Punk because they learned of Cult of Personality through him while I am not because I learned of it from the Guitar Hero 3 soundtrack. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for me. I'm a true rock star. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 7, 2022 7:05:30 GMT -5
What did Punk do back in the day for so many people to be THIS loyal to him? I mean, f***, I was a fan too, even bought his damn t-shirt in 2011 when he was on his massive run. But I was never so f***ing enamoured with the guy to the point where all common sense goes out the window. Shit, was WWE and TNA in 2003 so bad that these people owe such a debt to Punk for being the one plant in the pot of dirt? (Actually, I'm watching 2003 WWE right now, it's pretty grim ) Raw was, but Smackdown was still really good. And also lets face it, another 2 months without wrestling is incredibly good news for Kenny Omega, as (and I don't know how much was kayfabe) he did look pretty beat up on his return. I strongly suspect he was playing it up for drama, but that yeah, he was unlikely to be 100 percent. More time to heal isn't a bad thing, sure, but I imagine he also can't really get to 100 percent without wrestling through ring rust either, though, so he's probably very frustrated being at home and unable to really commit to doing anything like AAA, etc, either while he's in limbo. I'd say Omega was looking like he was 80 to 85% upon return. Dude was working hurt for a long time before dropping the belt to Hangman, his body needed a longer break. I have the theory that people are attached to CM Punk because they learned of Cult of Personality through him while I am not because I learned of it from the Guitar Hero 3 soundtrack. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for me. I'm a true rock star. I was born in 1980, so I learned of it when it came out. You young whippersnappers, with your baggy clothes and musical high schools. |
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Post by evilone on Nov 7, 2022 7:23:17 GMT -5
You'd have to think if the Bucks had any inclination toward things turning physical, or expected them to, they wouldn't have brought the company's lawyer with them. It turning into a fight was all Punk. Them bringin in the lawyer was a dead giveaway they knew there would be verbal and physical implications. Actually they were going for it and they counted on it which makes their decision to gang up on Punk even worse from EVP standpoint. They certainly didn't go in to discuss Cabana comments with Punk but to discuss Punk putting them into his mouth. It was a immature showdown. |
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Post by SneakMan on Nov 7, 2022 7:25:47 GMT -5
It's a combination of Punk fanatics defending him with every ounce of their being, but more so people who hate the Elite seeing Punk as a martyr and therefore defending Punk with every ounce of their being as well. It's two separate groups of fanatics joining together to make a super fanatic group. It's the Corporate Ministry of wrestling fanatics. So apparently Logan Paul has been throwing Buckshots for quite some time before Crown Jewel? I dunno about performing Buckshot Lariats, but Logan definitely has prior experience with hanged men. |
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 7, 2022 7:45:35 GMT -5
As someone who has had to take multiple classes and trainings on workplace conflicts, it's worth noting that bringing a neutral third party with you as a mediator to a dispute with a coworker is absolutely a thing you'd do. And especially with the Elite holding positions of power, bringing in legal is like, the move. I'm not seeing at all how The Elite were out of line in handling this.
Also those trainings were just yearly requirements, I'm not like, a deviant at work or something, lol.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 7, 2022 8:11:23 GMT -5
You'd have to think if the Bucks had any inclination toward things turning physical, or expected them to, they wouldn't have brought the company's lawyer with them. It turning into a fight was all Punk. Them bringin in the lawyer was a dead giveaway they knew there would be verbal and physical implications. Actually they were going for it and they counted on it which makes their decision to gang up on Punk even worse from EVP standpoint. They certainly didn't go in to discuss Cabana comments with Punk but to discuss Punk putting them into his mouth. It was a immature showdown. I think we reached a point of mental gymnastics worth of winning Olympic gold |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 7, 2022 8:11:41 GMT -5
You'd have to think if the Bucks had any inclination toward things turning physical, or expected them to, they wouldn't have brought the company's lawyer with them. It turning into a fight was all Punk. Them bringin in the lawyer was a dead giveaway they knew there would be verbal and physical implications. Actually they were going for it and they counted on it which makes their decision to gang up on Punk even worse from EVP standpoint. They certainly didn't go in to discuss Cabana comments with Punk but to discuss Punk putting them into his mouth. It was a immature showdown. So, bringing a neutral 3rd party, who I'd imagine has dealing with the possible ramifications of situations like this as part of their role... makes them worse? |
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 7, 2022 8:16:05 GMT -5
Them bringin in the lawyer was a dead giveaway they knew there would be verbal and physical implications. Actually they were going for it and they counted on it which makes their decision to gang up on Punk even worse from EVP standpoint. They certainly didn't go in to discuss Cabana comments with Punk but to discuss Punk putting them into his mouth. It was a immature showdown. So, bringing a neutral 3rd party, who I'd imagine has dealing with the possible ramifications of situations like this as part of their role... makes them worse? It plays into their hands to get into a physical confrontation in front of the company lawyer, because... reasons, I guess, I don't know what the f*** the possible justification is for this one. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 7, 2022 8:18:31 GMT -5
So, bringing a neutral 3rd party, who I'd imagine has dealing with the possible ramifications of situations like this as part of their role... makes them worse? It plays into their hands to get into a physical confrontation in front of the company lawyer, because... reasons, I guess, I don't know what the f*** the possible justification is for this one. Being charitable. They knew Punk would cause a fight... somehow and wanted a neutral witness for that was part of a chess game to get rid of him. Why even then, it's still their fault rather than Punk's for him causing all this instead of, I dunno, talking to them. I got nothing. |
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Post by Kalmia on Nov 7, 2022 8:44:58 GMT -5
I don't know about you, but if I want to fight a colleague I always make sure the company lawyer is present. They're sure to turn a blind eye to behaviour that can get the company in trouble.
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Post by MrElijah on Nov 7, 2022 8:51:29 GMT -5
I have the theory that people are attached to CM Punk because they learned of Cult of Personality through him while I am not because I learned of it from the Guitar Hero 3 soundtrack. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for me. I'm a true rock star. "All we had to do was follow the damn Scrum plan, CM!!" |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 7, 2022 8:52:21 GMT -5
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for me. I'm a true rock star. "All we had to do was follow the damn Scrum plan, CM!!" <Ace Steel> NUMBER KENNY, NUMBER KENNY LARGE WITH EXTRA DIP... |
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Post by Burst on Nov 7, 2022 9:04:32 GMT -5
As someone who has had to take multiple classes and trainings on workplace conflicts, it's worth noting that bringing a neutral third party with you as a mediator to a dispute with a coworker is absolutely a thing you'd do. And especially with the Elite holding positions of power, bringing in legal is like, the move. I'm not seeing at all how The Elite were out of line in handling this. Also those trainings were just yearly requirements, I'm not like, a deviant at work or something, lol. This. I've dealt with interpersonal conflict situations at work where the he-said she-said was so bad that one of the parties straight up refused to be alone in a room with the other party without a third witness, precisely as a guard against unwarranted yet unproveable accusations. It's the same reason in healthcare that neutral chaperones are a thing when examining patients in certain contexts or sensitive situations. It's been said in this thread numerous times, but man, in addition to shining a spotlight on all the intractable Punk stans out there, it's also doing a damn good job of showing off who's never actually had to deal with a professional workplace. |
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 7, 2022 9:09:06 GMT -5
I have the theory that people are attached to CM Punk because they learned of Cult of Personality through him while I am not because I learned of it from the Guitar Hero 3 soundtrack. I first heard Cult of Personality on the radio when I was 10, and that was well before I saw Punk on ROH and TNA several years later. |
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Post by clifford on Nov 7, 2022 9:19:07 GMT -5
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Post by jm on Nov 7, 2022 9:22:04 GMT -5
You'd have to think if the Bucks had any inclination toward things turning physical, or expected them to, they wouldn't have brought the company's lawyer with them. It turning into a fight was all Punk. Them bringin in the lawyer was a dead giveaway they knew there would be verbal and physical implications. Actually they were going for it and they counted on it which makes their decision to gang up on Punk even worse from EVP standpoint. They certainly didn't go in to discuss Cabana comments with Punk but to discuss Punk putting them into his mouth. It was a immature showdown. Alexa, show me a textbook example of doublethink. |
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Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Nov 7, 2022 9:27:07 GMT -5
I first heard Cult of Personality when the video debuted on MTV. Back when they actually played music videos.
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