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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 16:04:10 GMT -5
People still upset Iyo lost in NXT to Raquel cause ......Raquel LOL About yesterday, cant wait for Bianca & Becky to take the tag titles from Iyo & Dakota, cause that's gonna happen As much as I hate main eventer super tag team champions at the same time I don't really know where else you go with them. I guess Raquel and Shotzi but they are feuding with Ronda. Maybe something like Candice and Mia. However Candice I think might be injured as they wrote her off like a month ago in an attack where she wasn't shown getting beaten up and hasn't been seen since. And this is why the heels should have won lastnight. Because where else do you go with Dmg Cntrl now? the only thing that makes any sense is them feuding with each other and breaking up the group which they would probably be better off doing instead of whats coming. Becky is gonna chump them out so damn hard and then move onto Ronda and leaves Dmg Cntrl even worse off. Atleast if the heels had won you could keep some heat on them but they do not even have that so Becky punking them out week after week is just gonna be lifeless.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 27, 2022 16:13:08 GMT -5
People still upset Iyo lost in NXT to Raquel cause ......Raquel LOL About yesterday, cant wait for Bianca & Becky to take the tag titles from Iyo & Dakota, cause that's gonna happen As much as I hate main eventer super tag team champions at the same time I don't really know where else you go with them. I guess Raquel and Shotzi but they are feuding with Ronda. Maybe something like Candice and Mia. However Candice I think might be injured as they wrote her off like a month ago in an attack where she wasn't shown getting beaten up and hasn't been seen since. That would be stupid since they'll just drop it back to Damage Ctrl a month or so later since Becky will be headed to Smackdown to begin her WM feud with Ronda. Actually, it would also be stupid because as evidenced by Asuka's last title reign one of two things will happen the tag titles gets ignored and becomes a useless prop or the Raw Women's title gets ignored and becomes a useless prop. It's probably better to just keep the main title and tag titles separated from each other. Also, if the rumors are true about Charlotte facing Bianca at WM, I wonder how will they go about it. Because both Becky and Charlotte would need to switch brands. Do they have Charlotte win the Rumble and Becky lose a "loser leaves Raw" match or something....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 16:17:29 GMT -5
As much as I hate main eventer super tag team champions at the same time I don't really know where else you go with them. I guess Raquel and Shotzi but they are feuding with Ronda. Maybe something like Candice and Mia. However Candice I think might be injured as they wrote her off like a month ago in an attack where she wasn't shown getting beaten up and hasn't been seen since. That would be stupid since they'll just drop it back to Damage Ctrl a month or so later since Becky will be headed to Smackdown to begin her WM feud with Ronda. Actually, it would also be stupid because as evidenced by Asuka's last title reign one of two things will happen the tag titles gets ignored and becomes a useless prop or the Raw Women's title gets ignored and becomes a useless prop. It's probably better to just keep the main title and tag titles separated from each other. Also, if the rumors are true about Charlotte facing Bianca at WM, I wonder how will they go about it. Because both Becky and Charlotte would need to switch brands. Do they have Charlotte win the Rumble and Becky lose a "loser leaves Raw" match or something.... 1 wins the rumble and the other wins the chamber match. And this f***ing sssssuuuuuccccckkkkksssssss because it is treading repaved ground just moving the same pieces around.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 27, 2022 16:28:57 GMT -5
As much as I hate main eventer super tag team champions at the same time I don't really know where else you go with them. I guess Raquel and Shotzi but they are feuding with Ronda. Maybe something like Candice and Mia. However Candice I think might be injured as they wrote her off like a month ago in an attack where she wasn't shown getting beaten up and hasn't been seen since. That would be stupid since they'll just drop it back to Damage Ctrl a month or so later since Becky will be headed to Smackdown to begin her WM feud with Ronda. Actually, it would also be stupid because as evidenced by Asuka's last title reign one of two things will happen the tag titles gets ignored and becomes a useless prop or the Raw Women's title gets ignored and becomes a useless prop. It's probably better to just keep the main title and tag titles separated from each other. Also, if the rumors are true about Charlotte facing Bianca at WM, I wonder how will they go about it. Because both Becky and Charlotte would need to switch brands. Do they have Charlotte win the Rumble and Becky lose a "loser leaves Raw" match or something.... I guess with how long Charlotte has been gone maybe you can just have her show up on Raw and confront or attack whoever. And maybe just say something like her contract on Smackdown expired or something and she's signed with Raw. I really don't think they want Becky losing to Bayley and as a result losing that feud going into a Mania program with Ronda. I think they'll probably have her win the Rumble to get to Smackdown.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 27, 2022 16:32:23 GMT -5
That would be stupid since they'll just drop it back to Damage Ctrl a month or so later since Becky will be headed to Smackdown to begin her WM feud with Ronda. Actually, it would also be stupid because as evidenced by Asuka's last title reign one of two things will happen the tag titles gets ignored and becomes a useless prop or the Raw Women's title gets ignored and becomes a useless prop. It's probably better to just keep the main title and tag titles separated from each other. Also, if the rumors are true about Charlotte facing Bianca at WM, I wonder how will they go about it. Because both Becky and Charlotte would need to switch brands. Do they have Charlotte win the Rumble and Becky lose a "loser leaves Raw" match or something.... 1 wins the rumble and the other wins the chamber match. And this f***ing sssssuuuuuccccckkkkksssssss because it is treading repaved ground just moving the same pieces around. It really does. It's just the four women in the title matches last year but only with opponents switched around. Really should just be Becky against Ronda and Bianca against Rhea (who in reality is probably going to be facing Beth). I don't know what you do with Charlotte then though. As much as I'm tired of her they've pushed her so much that you kind of have give her some kind of a match on the card. I guess Bayley maybe but that's been done to death too and Bayley has been cooled off so much that I don't think there's going to be any interest for that one.
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Post by mistery on Nov 27, 2022 16:45:50 GMT -5
1 wins the rumble and the other wins the chamber match. And this f***ing sssssuuuuuccccckkkkksssssss because it is treading repaved ground just moving the same pieces around. It really does. It's just the four women in the title matches last year but only with opponents switched around. Really should just be Becky against Ronda and Bianca against Rhea (who in reality is probably going to be facing Beth). I don't know what you do with Charlotte then though. As much as I'm tired of her they've pushed her so much that you kind of have give her some kind of a match on the card. I guess Bayley maybe but that's been done to death too and Bayley has been cooled off so much that I don't think there's going to be any interest for that one. The more terrifying part is that we all know if Bianca loses the title at Wrestlemania, she's basically a lock to get another crack at it at the next PLE, and probably end up getting it back at Summerslam. And holding it until Wrestlemania again after that. It's painfully obvious that WWE doesn't really want to build up any other women outside of Bianca, Becky, Charlotte, Ronda, and probably Rhea. And it's hard to see the title scene revolving around anyone but them over the next couple of years. It's why they need to introduce midcard titles for the other women, because otherwise what's the point of the other women in the company being around since they'll just be used to put over those five names I listed above? Because I find it very hard to believe that anyone but those five women will ever be huge main focal points of the company. At best they'll hold the belt for a couple of months before dropping it back to one of the big names just before a major PLE like Mania or Summerslam.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 27, 2022 17:05:37 GMT -5
It really does. It's just the four women in the title matches last year but only with opponents switched around. Really should just be Becky against Ronda and Bianca against Rhea (who in reality is probably going to be facing Beth). I don't know what you do with Charlotte then though. As much as I'm tired of her they've pushed her so much that you kind of have give her some kind of a match on the card. I guess Bayley maybe but that's been done to death too and Bayley has been cooled off so much that I don't think there's going to be any interest for that one. The more terrifying part is that we all know if Bianca loses the title at Wrestlemania, she's basically a lock to get another crack at it at the next PLE, and probably end up getting it back at Summerslam. And holding it until Wrestlemania again after that. It's painfully obvious that WWE doesn't really want to build up any other women outside of Bianca, Becky, Charlotte, Ronda, and probably Rhea. And it's hard to see the title scene revolving around anyone but them over the next couple of years. It's why they need to introduce midcard titles for the other women, because otherwise what's the point of the other women in the company being around since they'll just be used to put over those five names I listed above? Because I find it very hard to believe that anyone but those five women will ever be huge main focal points of the company. At best they'll hold the belt for a couple of months before dropping it back to one of the big names just before a major PLE like Mania or Summerslam. I think having a midcard title would definitely be more useful then tag titles at this point. However even that it would depend on they used it. I could see them just putting it on one of the big four who aren't in the title picture. Or someone a notch below those four like Sasha (if she returns) or Bayley having a stranglehold on it which I wouldn't have any interest in either as those two have been given a ton as well. It should be a title used for people on the come up to either help them or give them something useful to do. However I don't have confidence in them doing that.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 27, 2022 17:12:41 GMT -5
The more terrifying part is that we all know if Bianca loses the title at Wrestlemania, she's basically a lock to get another crack at it at the next PLE, and probably end up getting it back at Summerslam. And holding it until Wrestlemania again after that. It's painfully obvious that WWE doesn't really want to build up any other women outside of Bianca, Becky, Charlotte, Ronda, and probably Rhea. And it's hard to see the title scene revolving around anyone but them over the next couple of years. It's why they need to introduce midcard titles for the other women, because otherwise what's the point of the other women in the company being around since they'll just be used to put over those five names I listed above? Because I find it very hard to believe that anyone but those five women will ever be huge main focal points of the company. At best they'll hold the belt for a couple of months before dropping it back to one of the big names just before a major PLE like Mania or Summerslam. I think having a midcard title would definitely be more useful then tag titles at this point. However even that it would depend on they used it. I could see them just putting it on one of the big four who aren't in the title picture. Or someone a notch below those four like Sasha (if she returns) or Bayley having a stranglehold on it which I wouldn't have any interest in either as those two have been given a ton as well. It should be a title used for people on the come up to either help them or give them something useful to do. However I don't have confidence in them doing that. That's what the tag titles were suppose to be for. That's what Bayley, Sasha and Dakota have wanted for the tag titles, but look where they are at instead.
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Post by mistery on Nov 27, 2022 17:13:08 GMT -5
The more terrifying part is that we all know if Bianca loses the title at Wrestlemania, she's basically a lock to get another crack at it at the next PLE, and probably end up getting it back at Summerslam. And holding it until Wrestlemania again after that. It's painfully obvious that WWE doesn't really want to build up any other women outside of Bianca, Becky, Charlotte, Ronda, and probably Rhea. And it's hard to see the title scene revolving around anyone but them over the next couple of years. It's why they need to introduce midcard titles for the other women, because otherwise what's the point of the other women in the company being around since they'll just be used to put over those five names I listed above? Because I find it very hard to believe that anyone but those five women will ever be huge main focal points of the company. At best they'll hold the belt for a couple of months before dropping it back to one of the big names just before a major PLE like Mania or Summerslam. I think having a midcard title would definitely be more useful then tag titles at this point. However even that it would depend on they used it. I could see them just putting it on one of the big four who aren't in the title picture. Or someone a notch below those four like Sasha (if she returns) or Bayley having a stranglehold on it which I wouldn't have any interest in either as those two have been given a ton as well. It should be a title used for people on the come up to either help them or give them something useful to do. However I don't have confidence in them doing that. I mean if they introduce a midcard title, it should be one for each brand. Not just a single title. And I feel like it would be good for a lot of women in general, because it's pretty obvious that WWE has their four or five women they want as their huge players and barring a MASSIVE groundswell of support from the audience, no one else is going to break into that tier now. And even then we don't know how well that will play out considering how Kofimania ended. Plus WWE is incredibly careful about not letting women below those five get much screentime on their own OR getting over through their matches. Damage CTRL had potential, but Triple H bungled it. Hard. Easily his biggest failure since he's taken over and it's resulted in the credibility of Bayley, Iyo, and Dakota basically all being completely destroyed to the point of where I don't think any of them will recover unless they go away for a year or two. If I didn't know any better, I would feel like he intentionally tanked their stock because Bayley was still hanging out with Sasha regularly, Dakota wasn't going to return originally, and Iyo was on her way out because she was unhappy about being portrayed as a midcarder with a ceiling over her head in NXT 2.0. But I know he's not that spiteful intentionally, he's just really bad at booking the women outside of the current top 5.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 27, 2022 17:20:20 GMT -5
I mean in retrospect, were they ever put together with a plan, or was it HHH just saying “I’m in charge now?”
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Post by mistery on Nov 27, 2022 17:27:53 GMT -5
I mean in retrospect, were they ever put together with a plan, or was it HHH just saying “I’m in charge now?” Bayley mentioned her goal was to get Iyo and Dakota over as big future stars in the division, and people who would be main eventing Wrestlemania in the not so distant future. And that she had a plan, and had pitched it to Vince originally, but he shot it down, but Triple H was interested in putting them together. The problem is that she seemed to underestimate how unbelievably terrible Bianca's booking is for the women she's feuding with. And now it's hard to see Iyo and Dakota even making it onto the pre-show. I think their downfall basically started when they lost to Raquel and Aliyah for literally no goddamn reason other than "hahaha we swerved you fools". After that, they never recovered even when they won the tag titles. Because they were constantly being chumped out by Bianca every week. And then when Bianca took out ALL THREE MEMBERS ON HER OWN AT EXTREME RULES, that was basically the nail in the coffin for their credibility.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 17:29:10 GMT -5
The inevitable Asuka feud is going to be extremely telling about where IYO's future in this company is headed , atleast right now HHH knows what he has and is drip feeding the audience with their interactions.
If she beats Asuka clean at say Mania it will be huge for her.
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Post by mistery on Nov 27, 2022 17:30:32 GMT -5
The inevitable Asuka feud is going to be extremely telling about where IYO's future in this company is headed , atleast right now HHH knows what he has and is drip feeding the audience with their interactions. If she beats Asuka clean at say Mania it will be huge for her. At this point I don't even think Iyo/Asuka is going to happen at Mania. It'll happen on a random PLE or RAW before then. And at this point I don't even think beating Asuka clean would help Iyo, since every other big name woman has beaten her numerous times clean.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 27, 2022 17:31:48 GMT -5
Becky was beating Damage CTRL’s asses pretty easily last night as well. And they had her take out BOTH Iyo and Dakota at once by herself.
So even a feud with Becky seems unlikely to be interesting at this point as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 17:49:22 GMT -5
The inevitable Asuka feud is going to be extremely telling about where IYO's future in this company is headed , atleast right now HHH knows what he has and is drip feeding the audience with their interactions. If she beats Asuka clean at say Mania it will be huge for her. At this point I don't even think Iyo/Asuka is going to happen at Mania. It'll happen on a random PLE or RAW before then. And at this point I don't even think beating Asuka clean would help Iyo, since every other big name woman has beaten her numerous times clean. You could be absoloutley right. But Asuka is still treated with just enough reverence that IYO beating her clean would mean something and as long as the feud isn't completely one sided and they tell the story and maybe even involve MIO and put IYO over clean in the end then it can only benefit IYO. Of all the womens feuds right now on Raw IMO the crowd seems only truly invested whenever IYO and Asuka face off...so they already are gathering interest, it is just a matter if HHH wants to hit a homerun with this feud or completely screw it the f*** up. Or I am just too hopeful for my own good when it comes to this feud idk.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 27, 2022 18:06:00 GMT -5
At this point I don't even think Iyo/Asuka is going to happen at Mania. It'll happen on a random PLE or RAW before then. And at this point I don't even think beating Asuka clean would help Iyo, since every other big name woman has beaten her numerous times clean. You could be absoloutley right. But Asuka is still treated with just enough reverence that IYO beating her clean would mean something and as long as the feud isn't completely one sided and they tell the story and maybe even involve MIO and put IYO over clean in the end then it can only benefit IYO. Of all the womens feuds right now on Raw IMO the crowd seems only truly invested whenever IYO and Asuka face off...so they already are gathering interest, it is just a matter if HHH wants to hit a homerun with this feud or completely screw it the f*** up. Or I am just too hopeful for my own good when it comes to this feud idk. I kinda doubt it. Like the next PLEs are Royal Rumble, Elimination Chamber and then WrestleMania. Neither of which, I can see them competing in one-on-one. And unless the Damage Ctrl vs Bianca & friends feud transitions into Damage Ctrl vs Becky & friends feud, I don't think they'll be interacting much afterwards.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 18:14:40 GMT -5
You could be absoloutley right. But Asuka is still treated with just enough reverence that IYO beating her clean would mean something and as long as the feud isn't completely one sided and they tell the story and maybe even involve MIO and put IYO over clean in the end then it can only benefit IYO. Of all the womens feuds right now on Raw IMO the crowd seems only truly invested whenever IYO and Asuka face off...so they already are gathering interest, it is just a matter if HHH wants to hit a homerun with this feud or completely screw it the f*** up. Or I am just too hopeful for my own good when it comes to this feud idk. I kinda doubt it. Like the next PLEs are Royal Rumble, Elimination Chamber and then WrestleMania. Neither of which, I can see them competing in one-on-one. And unless the Damage Ctrl vs Bianca & friends feud transitions into Damage Ctrl vs Becky & friends feud, I don't think they'll be interacting much afterwards. The Rumble and Elimnation chamber are perfect set ups to keep them at odds without giving away the 1 on 1. You have them start the womens rumble or seperate their entries whicever would work best...have them reach the final act of the rumble and then have Asuka eliminate IYO. At elimination chamber have IYO either pin or be resonsible for Asukas elimination. The only issue is what to do between now and the rumble as there are no PLE's untill than..assuming Asuka and Alexa are no long gonna be in Dmg Cntrls orbit.
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Post by XIII on Nov 27, 2022 18:16:48 GMT -5
There’s no way that Asuka/Iyo happens at WM. We’re already going to get Ronda vs. someone(probably Becky), Bianca vs. someone and a womens tag title match(which will likely feature Iyo). The rest will be lucky to get into a battle Royal or 10 person tag or something.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 27, 2022 18:31:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 18:42:17 GMT -5
Hope this leads to Bayley further losing her mind as she already looks like deranged Karen with that hair.
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