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Post by asuka007 on Nov 27, 2022 18:46:03 GMT -5
Bayley’s last three big feuds have been against Bianca, and the latter has beat her ass every time.
Give Bayley someone else to work with where she doesn’t look like such an incompetent chump.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 27, 2022 19:07:34 GMT -5
There’s no way that Asuka/Iyo happens at WM. We’re already going to get Ronda vs. someone(probably Becky), Bianca vs. someone and a womens tag title match(which will likely feature Iyo). The rest will be lucky to get into a battle Royal or 10 person tag or something. I know that's the assumption, but the way WM 37/38 were done (two singles titles matches, one multi-woman tag match, nothing else) doesn't have to be the template for every Mania and it's odd that so much of the discussion acts like it is. If Vince was still in charge, sure, I could see it, but I think WM 39 is going to be different.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 27, 2022 21:16:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't even hold my breath on them getting better booking on SD as long as Ronda is around. And Becky will likely end up on Smackdown with the title after Mania. As for Raquel, I think Triple H just needs to face the fact that she's horribly uninteresting and will never be seen as a huge star by the fans, because while she's okay in the ring, she's completely and utterly bland at everything else. If Ronda is done after Mania next year and right now nothing has come out about that changing then IMO SD becomes easily the better brand for them even with Becky as champion because SD is just a barren waste of talent right now. Alexa IYO Dakota Duodrop As additions while Raw can have Charlotte , Raquel and Shayna would be fine with me ..either way IYO and Dakota in particular just need to get the f*** away from Bianca and Becky as soon as possible...and I have a slim bit of hope...not much but it is more than I had with Bianca that maybe Becky puts them over by being the ones to send her away from Raw to SD...like I said it is a slim bit of hope because the way more likely situation is she wins the rumble and just challenges Ronda without swapping brands right now. That's a good point. Once Becky takes the title from Ronda, she's going to need some credible Heels. Not too sure if calling up Mandy Rose and Toxic Attraction solves that because neither of them are really top-tier workers(not to mention NXT has a small audience so how over will they actually be). Becky needs some credible and strong Heels, otherwise they're basically repeating the same mistake they made 3 years ago when Becky was stuck feuding with the likes of Lacey Evans for 3 PPV cycles followed by Natalya for SummerSlam.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 27, 2022 21:30:19 GMT -5
Dakota's already considering backup stable options.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 27, 2022 22:58:03 GMT -5
Dakota's already considering backup stable options.
Right… Leaving Damage CTRL to join up with Maximum Male Models would be a real galaxy brain move.
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Post by mistery on Nov 28, 2022 22:58:49 GMT -5
An absolutely "outstanding" job from WWE tonight rehabbing Damage CTRL's image.
1) Becky buried them in a promo, and then basically took them out despite being on her own and also injured.
2) Candice LeRae beat Dakota Kai clean, and despite Graves's excuses, they had Candice kick out of two of Dakota's finishers (GTK and Yakuza Kick).
3) They had Bianca bury them in a promo backstage by basically calling them all flops.
Man. If I'm Dakota and Iyo, I would be wondering if I could get out of my contract sooner rather than later. Because it's VERY clear that Triple H does not care for them at all. They have been criminally misused to the point of where they would be better off literally anywhere else. Hopefully Damage CTRL's booking shatters any illusion that Triple H is good for the women, as he's proven over the past several months that he is no better than Vince when it comes to women's booking.
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Post by theironyuppie on Nov 28, 2022 23:20:23 GMT -5
I wouldn't go that far. It also really wouldn't surprise me if Dakota starts getting more opportunities, because she's performing at a good level now. And yeah on the Bianca promo, but it is what it is, and the intrigue there was more about Alexa being apathetic rather than what Bianca had to say.
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Post by mistery on Nov 28, 2022 23:26:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't go that far. It also really wouldn't surprise me if Dakota starts getting more opportunities, because she's performing at a good level now. And yeah on the Bianca promo, but it is what it is, and the intrigue there was more about Alexa being apathetic rather than what Bianca had to say. Yeah. I think Dakota and Bayley will probably get more opportunities going forward at the end of the day (especially since Dakota got herself over tonight), but I do think Iyo is done as a major competitor (she gets next to no credit for her stuff, and she never really gets the time to shine compared to Bayley and Dakota when the group does get focus). The "not medically cleared" thing was BS considering she wrestled at last night's house show. And I don't think they have any plans to do Asuka/Iyo as a major match either. Probably because they have no idea how to actually build it up, or think people won't get invested into it.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 29, 2022 0:13:16 GMT -5
That opening segment with Becky was pretty comical with them bumbling around and having to sell getting hit with signs and merchandise items. They looked the Three Stooges. I don't know what the plan is for them after they are done feuding with Becky but it does seem like we are approaching the end as far them being a threatening main event heel stable.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 29, 2022 0:26:56 GMT -5
Dakota did get some protection in this loss since just watching everything Dakota endured at War Games and how she got battered from "pillar-to-post" for almost 50 minutes, no doubt Dakota was banged up and nowhere even close to being at 100%. Especially when you had the commentators saying how IYO, Bayley, Bianca, Asuka & Alexa were not being physically cleared either.
Not to mention she got ambushed and attacked by Candice during her own entrance before the match even started. And when the referee asked if she could compete she still went through with the match.
Made me wonder if maybe they might be experimenting and possibly planting the seeds for an eventual Face turn down the line.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 29, 2022 0:44:44 GMT -5
Dakota did get some protection in this loss since just watching everything Dakota endured at War Games and how she got battered from "pillar-to-post" for almost 50 minutes, no doubt Dakota was banged up and nowhere even close to being at 100%. Especially when you had the commentators saying how IYO, Bayley, Bianca, Asuka & Alexa were not being physically cleared either. Not to mention she got ambushed and attacked by Candice during her own entrance before the match even started. And when the referee asked if she could compete she still went through with the match. Made me wonder if maybe they might be experimenting and possibly planting the seeds for an eventual Face turn down the line. Maybe. It was weird. Babyface attacks heel from behind with the heel valiantly going through with the match when asked if she wants to continue. I honestly don't think I've ever seen that spot done with a heel.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 29, 2022 0:52:11 GMT -5
Dakota did get some protection in this loss since just watching everything Dakota endured at War Games and how she got battered from "pillar-to-post" for almost 50 minutes, no doubt Dakota was banged up and nowhere even close to being at 100%. Especially when you had the commentators saying how IYO, Bayley, Bianca, Asuka & Alexa were not being physically cleared either. Not to mention she got ambushed and attacked by Candice during her own entrance before the match even started. And when the referee asked if she could compete she still went through with the match. Made me wonder if maybe they might be experimenting and possibly planting the seeds for an eventual Face turn down the line. Maybe. It was weird. Babyface attacks heel from behind with the heel valiantly going through with the match when asked if she wants to continue. I honestly don't think I've ever seen that spot done with a heel. I mean that dumbass idiot kid Theory did that to Seth Rollins a few weeks ago, sorta.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 29, 2022 0:53:05 GMT -5
They’re basically Team Rocket at this point.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 29, 2022 1:02:32 GMT -5
Maybe. It was weird. Babyface attacks heel from behind with the heel valiantly going through with the match when asked if she wants to continue. I honestly don't think I've ever seen that spot done with a heel. I mean that dumbass idiot kid Theory did that to Seth Rollins a few weeks ago, sorta. Is Rollins a heel anymore though. Seems like he's a face now because "don't worry about it!".
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Post by J is Justice on Nov 29, 2022 11:02:20 GMT -5
An absolutely "outstanding" job from WWE tonight rehabbing Damage CTRL's image. 1) Becky buried them in a promo, and then basically took them out despite being on her own and also injured.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 29, 2022 18:38:46 GMT -5
I mean that dumbass idiot kid Theory did that to Seth Rollins a few weeks ago, sorta. Is Rollins a heel anymore though. Seems like he's a face now because "don't worry about it!". I think that was his official "Face" turn. Still the way that the match was booked was odd. You had Dakota(the Heel) all taped up, grimacing in pain throughout the match, clearly banged up after everything she endured at War Games; she then gets ambushed and attacked before the match even started; Then when the referee questions her if she can continue or not and instead of opting out, she chooses to fight regardless of all that; and then despite all that still manages to push Candice to her limits and nearly beats her. Honestly, I think Dakota came out looking better despite the L.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 29, 2022 18:55:38 GMT -5
I mean that dumbass idiot kid Theory did that to Seth Rollins a few weeks ago, sorta. Is Rollins a heel anymore though. Seems like he's a face now because "don't worry about it!". At least they’re rolling with it without too much shift in his character instead doing what they used to do and fight against the tide and take away his catchy theme or something.
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Post by gl83 on Nov 30, 2022 13:35:13 GMT -5
An absolutely "outstanding" job from WWE tonight rehabbing Damage CTRL's image. 1) Becky buried them in a promo, and then basically took them out despite being on her own and also injured. 2) Candice LeRae beat Dakota Kai clean, and despite Graves's excuses, they had Candice kick out of two of Dakota's finishers (GTK and Yakuza Kick). 3) They had Bianca bury them in a promo backstage by basically calling them all flops. Man. If I'm Dakota and Iyo, I would be wondering if I could get out of my contract sooner rather than later. Because it's VERY clear that Triple H does not care for them at all. They have been criminally misused to the point of where they would be better off literally anywhere else. Hopefully Damage CTRL's booking shatters any illusion that Triple H is good for the women, as he's proven over the past several months that he is no better than Vince when it comes to women's booking. I wouldn't say that the booking of the Dakota/Candice match was even that bad. Dakota I felt was pretty well-protected and probably came out looking better than Candice considering. I mean, Dakota was totally banged up after War Games; then she got ambushed by Candice before the match even started; when questioned she told the ref that she can still go & continued the match; and still pushed Candice to the limit & nearly beat her. As much as Dakota & Damage Ctrl needed a win, Candice would've looked like a total scrub(like Mustafa Ali-level) if she lost after all that.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 30, 2022 13:40:22 GMT -5
I think if it had just been Dakota losing, ok that would have been fine.
It was Becky basically calling Bayley a loser, then essentially having the upper hand in a brawl against all 3 of them.
And Bianca basically burying them in her promo as well.
AND then add on top of that Dakota losing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 14:03:28 GMT -5
I think if it had just been Dakota losing, ok that would have been fine. It was Becky basically calling Bayley a loser, then essentially having the upper hand in a brawl against all 3 of them. And Bianca basically burying them in her promo as well. AND then add on top of that Dakota losing. None of this makes sense unless the plan is to break them up. Because otherwise who does this help? Becky sure as hell does not need it and she as sure as hell aint benefiting from beating 3 goobs who seemingly cannot even beat up 1 woman. I said it a day or two ago Candice did more for Dakota then anyone else did for Dmg Cntrl did as a group and that is with Dakota losing.
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