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Post by mistery on Dec 2, 2022 22:24:14 GMT -5
The best thing for Dmg Cntrl right now is pretty much drop the tag titles they are just useless props now in an empty division. And them splitting them up and actually do things with them individually...not saying this is a sure thing but them on their own has to be better than whatever they are now. Especially for IYO since she thrives way better on her own...and with her getting back her in-ring timing etc she is more than suited to start doing her own thing.
I could be wrong, but I think Dakota's probably going to get pretty consistent TV time after they disband. She'll probably have a similar gatekeeper role to what she had in NXT, where she's not necessarily challenging for titles on a regular basis, but is still credible and wrestles often.
As for tonight:
I think Dakota and Bayley will continue to get regular TV time, but I don't think that'll be the case for Iyo, unless Asuka steps back. Which is going to make their expansion into Japan next year incredibly awkward (and likely fail) considering Iyo is the most popular Japanese star in WWE (among Japanese fans), and they are going out of their way to tank her entirely (she is constantly deemphasized compared to Bayley and Dakota). She also has the most clout among all of the Japanese stars, at least when it comes to women's wrestling over there. If they are banking on Asuka being massively popular in Japan, they are going to be in for a rude awakening as she's one of the least popular women over there by a fairly wide margin considering she made sure to torch her bridges to the Japanese pro wrestling scene.
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Post by gl83 on Dec 2, 2022 22:34:16 GMT -5
This is probably jinxing it but hey can't possibly get any worse. This atleast seems like a feud they can actually win...because Liv and Tegan lose nothing by losing to the losiest group of losers this side of loserville. I think the end goal is Liv and Tegan getting the tag titles, just to appease the very vocal Liv stans. While Damage CTRL gets buried ten feet under by Becky in the process. Damage CTRL, especially Iyo, has no real support among fans anymore, because Triple H completely botched their booking. And the amount of vitriol among a fairly large chunk of the fanbase I've seen directed at Iyo in particular is pretty awful. I doubt it. I think Damage Ctrl will be taking the tag titles into WrestleMania. The multi-women match this year will probably be Damage Ctrl vs every female tag team that they've antagonized and pissed off on Raw & Smackdown.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 2, 2022 22:36:36 GMT -5
I think the end goal is Liv and Tegan getting the tag titles, just to appease the very vocal Liv stans. While Damage CTRL gets buried ten feet under by Becky in the process. Damage CTRL, especially Iyo, has no real support among fans anymore, because Triple H completely botched their booking. And the amount of vitriol among a fairly large chunk of the fanbase I've seen directed at Iyo in particular is pretty awful. I doubt it. I think Damage Ctrl will be taking the tag titles into WrestleMania. The multi-women match this year will probably be Damage Ctrl vs every female tag team that they've antagonized and pissed off on Raw & Smackdown. They’ll definitely be on the Mania card, regardless of how they’ve been handled to date.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2022 22:39:37 GMT -5
I think the end goal is Liv and Tegan getting the tag titles, just to appease the very vocal Liv stans. While Damage CTRL gets buried ten feet under by Becky in the process. Damage CTRL, especially Iyo, has no real support among fans anymore, because Triple H completely botched their booking. And the amount of vitriol among a fairly large chunk of the fanbase I've seen directed at Iyo in particular is pretty awful. I doubt it. I think Damage Ctrl will be taking the tag titles into WrestleMania. The multi-women match this year will probably be Damage Ctrl vs every female tag team that they've antagonized and pissed off on Raw & Smackdown. I do not think you will see those titles make it to Mania atleast being defended especially not if that rumor about HHH doing away with the MITB ppv and instead doing it at WM. Which would then be the multi woman match.
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Post by theironyuppie on Dec 2, 2022 22:42:16 GMT -5
In honesty, we don't even know if the multi-woman tag match will be a thing at WM 39. Just because 37 and 38 had the same structure for the women's matches doesn't mean Hunter has to repeat it.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 2, 2022 22:42:36 GMT -5
I doubt it. I think Damage Ctrl will be taking the tag titles into WrestleMania. The multi-women match this year will probably be Damage Ctrl vs every female tag team that they've antagonized and pissed off on Raw & Smackdown. I do not think you will see those titles make it to Mania atleast being defended especially not if that rumor about HHH doing away with the MITB ppv and instead doing it at WM. Which would then be the multi woman match. The current thinking there is that MITB is going to stay. It’s TLC and HIAC that are getting scrapped. The Women’s Tag Belts will be on Mania.
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Post by ElmerFudd on Dec 2, 2022 22:44:35 GMT -5
I want Bayley to post in this thread and say "Oh Yeah, well the lame store called and said they're all out of You, Ding Dong Hello"
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Post by gl83 on Dec 2, 2022 22:47:20 GMT -5
I do not think you will see those titles make it to Mania atleast being defended especially not if that rumor about HHH doing away with the MITB ppv and instead doing it at WM. Which would then be the multi woman match. The current thinking there is that MITB is going to stay. It’s TLC and HIAC that are getting scrapped. The Women’s Tag Belts will be on Mania. As far as themed-PPVs go, I can see MITB and Elimination Chamber staying. HIAC, TLC and Extreme Rules, I can see being scrapped since those gimmicks would be better fit for blowoff matches for certain feuds as opposed to a themed-PPV.
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Post by griti kitty on Dec 2, 2022 23:08:01 GMT -5
One thing they are useful now for is establishing tiers for the other women. You got people who can beat them up 3 on 1(Becky,Bianca), Liv & Tegan are now a tier below at 3 on 2. Now we have to establish who can beat them 3 on 3 and even finding the dorks who lose to them at the bottom.
Seriously though, I hope IYO just leaves the group after they eventually lose the tag tag titles. Realizes they are a complete failure and says this is why I worked alone in NXT. Dakota can follow Bayley around for a couple months after that before feuding with to establish her as a face.
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Post by theironyuppie on Dec 2, 2022 23:22:59 GMT -5
One thing they are useful now for is establishing tiers for the other women. You got people who can beat them up 3 on 1(Becky,Bianca), Liv & Tegan are now a tier below at 3 on 2. Now we have to establish who can beat them 3 on 3 and even finding the dorks who lose to them at the bottom. Seriously though, I hope IYO just leaves the group after they eventually lose the tag tag titles. Realizes they are a complete failure and says this is why I worked alone in NXT. Dakota can follow Bayley around for a couple months after that before feuding with to establish her as a face.
Interesting point on the tiers. They were also doing that in the Wargames match where Bianca/Becky destroyed them at the end, but then it also took 2-on-1s for the big faces to temporarily stop Rhea.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 2, 2022 23:27:09 GMT -5
The Damage Dorks got run off again.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 2, 2022 23:47:23 GMT -5
Yeah? Well, I still like them and still want them to succeed, so I’m not letting how they’re booked right now affect me because they could be booked better later.
There, a nice rational response in this thread for once.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Dec 3, 2022 0:01:21 GMT -5
I want Bayley to post in this thread and say "Oh Yeah, well the lame store called and said they're all out of You, Ding Dong Hello" Becky: "What's the difference, yoor they're all toime best sella."
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Post by theironyuppie on Dec 3, 2022 0:15:04 GMT -5
Also, part of why they had DC in the role tonight was that given Ronda was absent and Shayna's segment already happened, Smackdown doesn't really have anyone else that bit would have worked with.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 3, 2022 0:23:22 GMT -5
In honesty, we don't even know if the multi-woman tag match will be a thing at WM 39. Just because 37 and 38 had the same structure for the women's matches doesn't mean Hunter has to repeat it. That’s one of the ways Hunter can shake things up. Do away with this “if you’re not going after one if the belts, you’re either in a thrown together multi team tag title match, or a meaningless battle Royale” idea that Vince had for the women at Mania.
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Post by gl83 on Dec 3, 2022 0:28:32 GMT -5
In honesty, we don't even know if the multi-woman tag match will be a thing at WM 39. Just because 37 and 38 had the same structure for the women's matches doesn't mean Hunter has to repeat it. That’s one of the ways Hunter can shake things up. Do away with this “if you’re not going after one if the belts, you’re either in a thrown together multi team tag title match, or a meaningless battle Royale” idea that Vince had for the women at Mania. To be honest, going through with the multi-person tag team match would make sense since Damage Ctrl have pissed off and antagonized everyone from both Raw & Smackdown
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 3, 2022 2:08:15 GMT -5
I don't really see how at this point in time you could possibly put together a Women's Tag match for Mania that remotely matters unless Sasha and Naomi came back. There are only four months to build to it at this point, two of that's going to go to building up the Rumble match, and you have absolutely nothing in the way of a women's tag division presently. I don't see how you could possibly get any sort of meaningful momentum behind any match by Mania with the current roster, while keeping Bianca and Ronda as champions, unless you just like randomly pivoted like right now to Becky & Asuka vs. Charlotte & Rhea or something.
I'm sure IYO and Dakota will be on the Mania card in some way but I can't really see a scenario in which it'll be anything more than, "Get them on the card," filler.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 3, 2022 2:23:19 GMT -5
In honesty, we don't even know if the multi-woman tag match will be a thing at WM 39. Just because 37 and 38 had the same structure for the women's matches doesn't mean Hunter has to repeat it. That’s one of the ways Hunter can shake things up. Do away with this “if you’re not going after one if the belts, you’re either in a thrown together multi team tag title match, or a meaningless battle Royale” idea that Vince had for the women at Mania. The women... the midcard... the tag team... the celebrity usually... basically everything but the main event >_>
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Dec 3, 2022 2:55:02 GMT -5
How do you expect them all to compete with a wizard so shiny?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 3, 2022 3:38:42 GMT -5
I want Bayley to post in this thread and say "Oh Yeah, well the lame store called and said they're all out of You, Ding Dong Hello" Personally, I'd lie every statement Bayley makes to end with Ding Dong, Hello "Here's your Pizza Miss Bayley, that will be 10.95?" "Thanks, and there's a generous tip in there because I love supporting local businesses, DING DONG, HELLO??"
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