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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 8, 2022 20:57:54 GMT -5
If there's any storytelling logic whatsoever this group should break up tomorrow. Bayley and the pair of IYO & Dakota are consistently just utterly useless to each other.
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Post by papagiorgio on Oct 8, 2022 21:04:51 GMT -5
I thought Bayley would win the ladder match since Bianca wouldn't eat a pin and the other 2 could interfere. I wasn't really on the lame side until tonight.
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Post by mistery on Oct 8, 2022 21:12:28 GMT -5
I thought Bayley would win the ladder match since Bianca wouldn't eat a pin and the other 2 could interfere. I wasn't really on the lame side until tonight. Bayley might eventually bounce back. But Dakota and Iyo? Completely and utterly toast. No one is going to take them seriously as singles threats going forward, especially against the top women. Triple H has somehow managed to f*** up their booking harder than Vince would.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 8, 2022 21:15:43 GMT -5
I got a bit frustrated in the live thread at people about this kind of thing, and I kinda just elaborate where I’m coming from a bit better.
I’ve been here a LONG time. As such, I’ve seen a lot of you guys come and go. But one thing that’s been consistent is the demand for “better”, whatever that entails. Common one of these is the hatred of dirty/protected finishes and the desire for all clean finishes… Which is fine, but we’re always saying that as though it should be a unanimous whole roster thing, when often it’s usually said in reaction to something happening to the individual.
We’re never going to have peace where everyone is satisfied with the booking. Damage CTRL could go undefeated for the next year, we’ll just have a new 20-page thread with someone else saying that their favourites are being booked lame, and the cycle and the noise goes on endlessly. Hell, Bianca Belair was this person as recently as a year and a bit ago, after she lost in one move at SummerSlam. It can change that quickly.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 8, 2022 21:15:52 GMT -5
Also, like, f*** the Women's Tag titles. They come back after being gone for months... and then are immediately put on a team where they don't trust one of the people involved to actually tag in for five seconds then they immediately lose them to a team that's defining character trait is that they're Bianca's personal punching bags. Just retire these useless belts.
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Post by mistery on Oct 8, 2022 21:18:04 GMT -5
I got a bit frustrated in the live thread at people about this kind of thing, and I kinda just elaborate where I’m coming from a bit better. I’ve been here a LONG time. As such, I’ve seen a lot of you guys come and go. But one thing that’s been consistent is the demand for “better”, whatever that entails. Common one of these is the hatred of dirty/protected finishes and the desire for all clean finishes… Which is fine, but we’re always saying that as though it should be a unanimous whole roster thing, when often it’s usually said in reaction to something happening to the individual. We’re never going to have peace where everyone is satisfied with the booking. Damage CTRL could go undefeated for the next year, we’ll just have a new 20-page thread with someone else saying that their favourites are being booked lame, and the cycle and the noise goes on endlessly. You don't seem to see the problem here. You have the supposed top heel faction in the women's division, literally get beat down by a single woman who was already hurt. And all three of these women are supposed to be big deals. Seeing the problem? It's basically John Cena vs the Nexus at Summerslam all over again. If I'm Iyo and Dakota, I'm seriously contemplating asking for my release, because there is absolutely no chance either of them recover after how badly this group has been booked.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 8, 2022 21:21:28 GMT -5
I got a bit frustrated in the live thread at people about this kind of thing, and I kinda just elaborate where I’m coming from a bit better. I’ve been here a LONG time. As such, I’ve seen a lot of you guys come and go. But one thing that’s been consistent is the demand for “better”, whatever that entails. Common one of these is the hatred of dirty/protected finishes and the desire for all clean finishes… Which is fine, but we’re always saying that as though it should be a unanimous whole roster thing, when often it’s usually said in reaction to something happening to the individual. We’re never going to have peace where everyone is satisfied with the booking. Damage CTRL could go undefeated for the next year, we’ll just have a new 20-page thread with someone else saying that their favourites are being booked lame, and the cycle and the noise goes on endlessly. You don't seem to see the problem here. You have the supposed top heel faction in the women's division, literally get beat down by a single woman who was already hurt. And all three of these women are supposed to be big deals. Seeing the problem? It's basically John Cena vs the Nexus at Summerslam all over again. If I'm Iyo and Dakota, I'm seriously contemplating asking for my release, because there is absolutely no chance either of them recover after how badly this group has been booked. Did Asuka and Alexa show up at least?
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Post by AwamoriRock on Oct 8, 2022 21:22:49 GMT -5
I got a bit frustrated in the live thread at people about this kind of thing, and I kinda just elaborate where I’m coming from a bit better. I’ve been here a LONG time. As such, I’ve seen a lot of you guys come and go. But one thing that’s been consistent is the demand for “better”, whatever that entails. Common one of these is the hatred of dirty/protected finishes and the desire for all clean finishes… Which is fine, but we’re always saying that as though it should be a unanimous whole roster thing, when often it’s usually said in reaction to something happening to the individual. We’re never going to have peace where everyone is satisfied with the booking. Damage CTRL could go undefeated for the next year, we’ll just have a new 20-page thread with someone else saying that their favourites are being booked lame, and the cycle and the noise goes on endlessly. You don't seem to see the problem here. You have the supposed top heel faction in the women's division, literally get beat down by a single woman who was already hurt. And all three of these women are supposed to be big deals. Seeing the problem? It's basically John Cena vs the Nexus at Summerslam all over again. If I'm Iyo and Dakota, I'm seriously contemplating asking for my release, because there is absolutely no chance either of them recover after how badly this group has been booked. It’s time for Sarray to save dmg control
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 8, 2022 21:23:06 GMT -5
You don't seem to see the problem here. You have the supposed top heel faction in the women's division, literally get beat down by a single woman who was already hurt. And all three of these women are supposed to be big deals. Seeing the problem? It's basically John Cena vs the Nexus at Summerslam all over again. If I'm Iyo and Dakota, I'm seriously contemplating asking for my release, because there is absolutely no chance either of them recover after how badly this group has been booked. Did Asuka and Alexa show up at least? No.
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Post by mistery on Oct 8, 2022 21:36:54 GMT -5
You don't seem to see the problem here. You have the supposed top heel faction in the women's division, literally get beat down by a single woman who was already hurt. And all three of these women are supposed to be big deals. Seeing the problem? It's basically John Cena vs the Nexus at Summerslam all over again. If I'm Iyo and Dakota, I'm seriously contemplating asking for my release, because there is absolutely no chance either of them recover after how badly this group has been booked. Did Asuka and Alexa show up at least? Nope. Just Bianca no selling all of Iyo and Dakota's offense (despite her being hurt) and then taking them out.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Oct 8, 2022 21:41:22 GMT -5
I got a bit frustrated in the live thread at people about this kind of thing, and I kinda just elaborate where I’m coming from a bit better. I’ve been here a LONG time. As such, I’ve seen a lot of you guys come and go. But one thing that’s been consistent is the demand for “better”, whatever that entails. Common one of these is the hatred of dirty/protected finishes and the desire for all clean finishes… Which is fine, but we’re always saying that as though it should be a unanimous whole roster thing, when often it’s usually said in reaction to something happening to the individual. We’re never going to have peace where everyone is satisfied with the booking. Damage CTRL could go undefeated for the next year, we’ll just have a new 20-page thread with someone else saying that their favourites are being booked lame, and the cycle and the noise goes on endlessly. You don't seem to see the problem here. You have the supposed top heel faction in the women's division, literally get beat down by a single woman who was already hurt. And all three of these women are supposed to be big deals. Seeing the problem? It's basically John Cena vs the Nexus at Summerslam all over again. If I'm Iyo and Dakota, I'm seriously contemplating asking for my release, because there is absolutely no chance either of them recover after how badly this group has been booked. This is turning into gimmick posting anymore....
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Post by mistery on Oct 8, 2022 21:49:19 GMT -5
You don't seem to see the problem here. You have the supposed top heel faction in the women's division, literally get beat down by a single woman who was already hurt. And all three of these women are supposed to be big deals. Seeing the problem? It's basically John Cena vs the Nexus at Summerslam all over again. If I'm Iyo and Dakota, I'm seriously contemplating asking for my release, because there is absolutely no chance either of them recover after how badly this group has been booked. This is turning into gimmick posting anymore.... Oh no, I'm completely serious. Like...their careers are pretty much unsalvageable. How are casual fans ever supposed to believe that they could be top stars now? Especially when they easily get chumped out 1 on 3 by a woman who was seriously beat down already. You don't. I am f***ing amazed that Triple H can book The Judgment Day well, but then books Damage CTRL like absolute garbage on the same show. It's utterly remarkable.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Oct 8, 2022 21:51:14 GMT -5
This is turning into gimmick posting anymore.... Oh no, I'm completely serious. Like...their careers are pretty much unsalvageable. How are casual fans ever supposed to believe that they could be top stars now? Especially when they easily get chumped out 1 on 3 by a woman who was seriously beat down already. You don't. I am f***ing amazed that Triple H can book The Judgment Day well, but then books Damage CTRL like absolute garbage on the same show. It's utterly remarkable. You mean YOU don't. You seriously do this all the time, and it's gotten outright terrible.
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Post by mistery on Oct 8, 2022 21:53:01 GMT -5
Oh no, I'm completely serious. Like...their careers are pretty much unsalvageable. How are casual fans ever supposed to believe that they could be top stars now? Especially when they easily get chumped out 1 on 3 by a woman who was seriously beat down already. You don't. I am f***ing amazed that Triple H can book The Judgment Day well, but then books Damage CTRL like absolute garbage on the same show. It's utterly remarkable. You mean YOU don't. You seriously do this all the time, and it's gotten outright terrible. Hmm. Maybe if they, you know, booked Damage CTRL to actually be threats and not just fodder for the second coming of Super Cena, I wouldn't be so angry. But instead the group is booked like absolute trash. There is literally no arguing against that point, especially after tonight.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Oct 8, 2022 21:54:53 GMT -5
You mean YOU don't. You seriously do this all the time, and it's gotten outright terrible. Hmm. Maybe if they, you know, booked Damage CTRL to actually be threats and not just fodder for the second coming of Super Cena, I wouldn't be so angry. But instead the group is booked like absolute trash. There is literally no arguing against that point, especially after tonight. They haven't been booked like absolute trash. They're tag champs and the only real reason they booked Bianca to win is because otherwise there's only ONE babyface champ and it's Lashley. And the crowd still gives a shit about Damage CTRL and they still will on Monday. So yeah, it can easily be argued against.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Oct 8, 2022 21:56:35 GMT -5
Bayley holding on to the ladder for the finish is the dumbest spot I’ve seen in mainstream wrestling.
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Post by mistery on Oct 8, 2022 21:57:46 GMT -5
Hmm. Maybe if they, you know, booked Damage CTRL to actually be threats and not just fodder for the second coming of Super Cena, I wouldn't be so angry. But instead the group is booked like absolute trash. There is literally no arguing against that point, especially after tonight. They haven't been booked like absolute trash. They're tag champs and the only real reason they booked Bianca to win is because otherwise there's only ONE babyface champ and it's Lashley. And the crowd still gives a shit about Damage CTRL and they still will on Monday. So yeah, it can easily be argued against. Ah yes, tag champs who had to CHEAT to beat Aliyah. ALIYAH. And had to cheat last Monday as well. And lost in less than 2.5 minutes to Raquel last Friday. They are completely ineffective. They've only stood tall TWICE since debuting on the main roster BACK IN JULY. Every other time they've been ran off by Bianca or Shotzi. Hell, two weeks ago, we saw Bianca completely steamroll Iyo dominating like 95% of the match and no selling all of her offense. For a group that is supposed to be a big threat for the other women, they certainly aren't portrayed as one!
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Oct 8, 2022 21:59:00 GMT -5
They haven't been booked like absolute trash. They're tag champs and the only real reason they booked Bianca to win is because otherwise there's only ONE babyface champ and it's Lashley. And the crowd still gives a shit about Damage CTRL and they still will on Monday. So yeah, it can easily be argued against. Ah yes, tag champs who had to CHEAT to beat Aliyah. ALIYAH. And had to cheat last Monday as well. And lost in less than 2.5 minutes to Raquel last Friday. They are completely ineffective. They've only stood tall TWICE since debuting on the main roster BACK IN JULY. Every other time they've been ran off by Bianca or Shotzi. For a group that is supposed to be a big threat for the other women, they certainly aren't portrayed as one! Only because YOU don't think they are despite being shown otherwise.
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Post by mistery on Oct 8, 2022 22:03:25 GMT -5
Ah yes, tag champs who had to CHEAT to beat Aliyah. ALIYAH. And had to cheat last Monday as well. And lost in less than 2.5 minutes to Raquel last Friday. They are completely ineffective. They've only stood tall TWICE since debuting on the main roster BACK IN JULY. Every other time they've been ran off by Bianca or Shotzi. For a group that is supposed to be a big threat for the other women, they certainly aren't portrayed as one! Only because YOU don't think they are despite being shown otherwise. Maybe you see them as threats, but I bet this forum and majority of fans don't see them as one anymore. If Bianca can easily take them out all on her own, why should we take them as a threat? Answer that. Because they aren't a threat right now, especially when a woman who is completely beaten down, still manages to take all of them out on her own. Killing off their careers as future singles competitors in the process, because people are going to look back at this match and realize that Bayley, Dakota, and Iyo are not threats in the slightest to Bianca.
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Oct 8, 2022 22:05:26 GMT -5
Only because YOU don't think they are despite being shown otherwise. Maybe you see them as threats, but I bet this forum and majority of fans don't see them as one anymore. If Bianca can easily take them out all on her own, why should we take them as a threat? Answer that. Because they aren't a threat right now, especially when a woman who is completely beaten down, still manages to take all of them out on her own. Killing off their careers as future singles competitors in the process, because people are going to look back at this match and realize that Bayley, Dakota, and Iyo are not threats in the slightest to Bianca. This is one of the worst overreactions I've seen in a dozen years here by a long shot.
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