Eddie Kingston vs Jericho/JAS has been going since DECEMBER

[asuka007]

It’s also the fact that JAS win the vast majority of the time. And even when they lose, it never feels like they truly lose.

Why TF Tony thought this was a good idea to do to Eddie in NEW YORK of all places is beyond me?

[chrom]

Sept 24, 2022 13:10:54 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

It’s also the fact that JAS win the vast majority of the time. And even when they lose, it never feels like they truly lose.

Why TF Tony thought this was a good idea to do to Eddie in NEW YORK of all places is beyond me?

Don't give me that "he got revenge that's what matters" at the end of the day he failed, again.

It's Luger at SS 93 booking

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 24, 2022 13:17:38 GMT -5 chrom said:

Sept 24, 2022 13:10:54 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

It’s also the fact that JAS win the vast majority of the time. And even when they lose, it never feels like they truly lose.

Why TF Tony thought this was a good idea to do to Eddie in NEW YORK of all places is beyond me?

Don't give me that "he got revenge that's what matters" at the end of the day he failed, again.

It's Luger at SS 93 booking

I don't recall everyone celebrating like Eddie won the match, people were rightly pissed at Paul Turner for the decision and giving Sammy the win for not releasing the submission

[Mid-Carder]

Tay was part of, in my opinion, two of the best AEW women's division matches (v Britt and the hardcore tag with Anna Jay v the Bunny and Penelope Ford) and I hate that she just stands looking cute at ringside now. She needs away from JAS yesterday.

[chrom]

Sept 24, 2022 13:23:11 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Sept 24, 2022 13:17:38 GMT -5 chrom said:

Don't give me that "he got revenge that's what matters" at the end of the day he failed, again.

It's Luger at SS 93 booking

I don't recall everyone celebrating like Eddie won the match, people were rightly pissed at Paul Turner for the decision and giving Sammy the win for not releasing the submission

And again, Eddie failed. It'll go down in the records as another loss.

No matter how much you try to spin it or say let's see where this goes, when it was time for him to finally win, he winded up losing.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Sept 24, 2022 13:23:44 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

Tay was part of, in my opinion, two of the best AEW women's division matches (v Britt and the hardcore tag with Anna Jay v the Bunny and Penelope Ford) and I hate that she just stands looking cute at ringside now. She needs away from JAS yesterday.

Tay really regressed when she turned heel. Now she’s just “Sammy’s girlfriend”, and it shouldn’t be like that.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 24, 2022 13:50:00 GMT -5 chrom said:

Sept 24, 2022 13:23:11 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I don't recall everyone celebrating like Eddie won the match, people were rightly pissed at Paul Turner for the decision and giving Sammy the win for not releasing the submission

And again, Eddie failed. It'll go down in the records as another loss.

No matter how much you try to spin it or say let's see where this goes, when it was time for him to finally win, he winded up losing.

I mean Tony Khan himself said that the overturning was bullshit and was pissed that Sammy was celebrating it like he actually did something

So yeah Eddie lost because of his inability to release the hold and Paul Turner's decision, but a storyline is a storyline, and it seems to be pretty emphasized that it's part of the beat

I'm one of the biggest Kingston fans here, I'm just willing to, as you said, see where it goes, I'm not pissed about it because it's pretty obvious they're setting up stuff.

I don't really think this is me trying to spin anything, I'm just taking in the info they give me as a fan. Tony Khan does not value DQ wins very highly.

[mrbananagrabber]

Sept 24, 2022 9:05:38 GMT -5 Fake Jesus said:

is this the longest uninterrupted feud since Austin/McMahon?

I don’t think the fans ever wanted Austin and Vince to end. This garbage though…

[Lizuka #BLM]

In general Tony Khan seems to operate under the delusion that a story is automatically good just because it's long.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Sept 24, 2022 14:52:22 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

In general Tony Khan seems to operate under the delusion that a story is automatically good just because it's long.

Same with title reigns

[Dave the Dave]

Just when we thought this feud was over, but Tony has other ideas

[Nosnorb]

Sept 24, 2022 14:53:50 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Sept 24, 2022 14:52:22 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

In general Tony Khan seems to operate under the delusion that a story is automatically good just because it's long.

Same with title reigns

That's probably due to the coke.

[asuka007]

Part of the reason why I hate this kind of finish is that it is so inconsistently applied. How many post match beatings does AEW do, A LOT.

Also if you want to kayfabe “punish” someone, that’s what a fine/suspension are for.

The idea of it is just stupid on it’s face, hence why real fight sports don’t do it.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 24, 2022 15:37:05 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Part of the reason why I hate this kind of finish is that it is so inconsistently applied. How many post match beatings does AEW do, A LOT.

Ok but in this case Tony TOLD Turner after Jericho cheated to win the ROH belt to tighten the screws. So this wasn't a situation where "It happens so many times, why NOW? It makes no sense!" when they even said it on commentary that Kingston wouldn't release the hold and it forced Turner to make a call

It's a domino effect, it's not one peeps have to like but it does lay in some type of logic, which is something.

[pinja]

Sept 24, 2022 15:56:52 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Sept 24, 2022 15:37:05 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Part of the reason why I hate this kind of finish is that it is so inconsistently applied. How many post match beatings does AEW do, A LOT.

Ok but in this case Tony TOLD Turner after Jericho cheated to win the ROH belt to tighten the screws. So this wasn't a situation where "It happens so many times, why NOW? It makes no sense!" when they even said it on commentary that Kingston wouldn't release the hold and it forced Turner to make a call

It's a domino effect, it's not one peeps have to like but it does lay in some type of logic, which is something.

While it's generally a good idea to show such changes and have commentary talk about it, giving blatant examples in matches early on to me makes it unclear wether the changes are a short term work or a shoot that's supposed to stick. Reconditioning fans to what they have to expect needs lots of little steps.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

There's just no reason that, this deep into everything, "Eddie got his win EXCEPT NO WAIT THERE'S A HEAT SEGMENT" should even be on the table. Just a horrible idea to keep this dragging along, and if it doesn't drag along and this somehow impossibly is the end, then cool, that's even worse.

[Gerard Gerard]

Sept 24, 2022 14:52:22 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

In general Tony Khan seems to operate under the delusion that a story is automatically good just because it's long.

I guess he must've really thought Matt Hardy vs Orange Cassidy was the greatest feud of all time then.

[Fade is a CodyCryBaby]

Sept 24, 2022 16:28:49 GMT -5 Gerard Gerard said:

Sept 24, 2022 14:52:22 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

In general Tony Khan seems to operate under the delusion that a story is automatically good just because it's long.

I guess he must've really thought Matt Hardy vs Orange Cassidy was the greatest feud of all time then.

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Sept 24, 2022 13:52:57 GMT -5 Bang Bang Bart said:

Sept 24, 2022 13:23:44 GMT -5 Mid-Carder said:

Tay was part of, in my opinion, two of the best AEW women's division matches (v Britt and the hardcore tag with Anna Jay v the Bunny and Penelope Ford) and I hate that she just stands looking cute at ringside now. She needs away from JAS yesterday.

Tay really regressed when she turned heel. Now she’s just “Sammy’s girlfriend”, and it shouldn’t be like that.

Yeah, this heel shtick feels very forced and tryhard to me.

[simplydurhamcalling]

When he hit the 3 backfists and got the quick submission I thought it was the perfect finish to this feud between Sammy and Kingston, the latter of whom could then move on to bigger and better things.

Did they have to use *this* match for their new referee storyline? Just use it in one of the many, many cold matches they have to start an angle not pro-long an out of date one.