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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 18, 2022 16:37:06 GMT -5
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Post by Facetious on Oct 18, 2022 17:08:14 GMT -5
I don't think we'll ever get the full story, but it certainly feels like she was hurt that she didn't get the pay she wanted and being replaced and decided to tell half truths.
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Post by zrowsdower on Oct 18, 2022 18:34:57 GMT -5
Either way, I feel bad for her.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 18, 2022 19:07:55 GMT -5
So looks like she was either outright lying or didn’t tell the full story which isn’t a good luck. Either way Hale shouldn’t suffer the brunt of discourse that was put out there
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Post by Dub H on Oct 19, 2022 0:49:08 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on Oct 19, 2022 0:50:44 GMT -5
Either way, I feel bad for her. Why?She clearly lied out of spite to hurt a game hundreds of people worked on, because she didnt get what she wanted.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 19, 2022 0:58:51 GMT -5
Yeah, bit of a yikes. VA's deserving better still stands though.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Oct 19, 2022 0:59:15 GMT -5
I wish she had just come out with the honest facts (Or at least the facts as I see them) "Listen. I didn't do voicework for this game because I felt the money they offered me was peanuts compared to what the game was likely to make for a profit." If she did that, there's a chance she'd have never gotten work again, but I would have at least respected her for sticking up for what she thinks she's worth.
Instead she appears to have stretched the truth about what she was offered in an attempt to make the developers look worse than they already did, and called for a boycott out of spite while trying to make herself look like some kind of victim or martyr.
This is an all-heel program. There is no babyface here.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 19, 2022 1:01:03 GMT -5
I wish she had just come out with the honest facts (Or at least the facts as I see them) "Listen. I didn't do voicework for this game because I felt the money they offered me was peanuts compared to what the game was likely to make for a profit." If she did that, there's a chance she'd have never gotten work again, but I would have at least respected her for sticking up for what she thinks she's worth. Instead she appears to have stretched the truth about what she was offered in an attempt to make the developers look worse than they already did, and called for a boycott out of spite while trying to make herself look like some kind of victim or martyr. This is an all-heel program. There is no babyface here. What exactly did Platinum Games do wrong? offer 15.000 Dollars for around 30 hour of works? Or not accept a ridiculous 6 figures demand?
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Oct 19, 2022 1:02:24 GMT -5
I wish she had just come out with the honest facts (Or at least the facts as I see them) "Listen. I didn't do voicework for this game because I felt the money they offered me was peanuts compared to what the game was likely to make for a profit." If she did that, there's a chance she'd have never gotten work again, but I would have at least respected her for sticking up for what she thinks she's worth. Instead she appears to have stretched the truth about what she was offered in an attempt to make the developers look worse than they already did, and called for a boycott out of spite while trying to make herself look like some kind of victim or martyr. This is an all-heel program. There is no babyface here. What exactly did Platinum Games do wrong? offer 15.000 Dollars for around 30 hour of works? Or not accept a ridiculous 6 figures demand? I was referring more to the industry itself.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Oct 19, 2022 1:13:00 GMT -5
At first, I felt bad for her as the video game industry can be an extremely scummy.
But now nah f*** off.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 19, 2022 1:54:59 GMT -5
So looks like she was either outright lying or didn’t tell the full story which isn’t a good luck. Either way Hale shouldn’t suffer the brunt of discourse that was put out there Regardless of if she was telling the truth or not Hale didn't do anything wrong... and shouldn't get any of the shit.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 19, 2022 2:08:50 GMT -5
What irritates me about this is VAs, especially Game VAs DO DESERVE BETTER PAY and better rights as a whole, they're constantly f***ed over. Look at how bad it is for Anime Dubs alone, where Mobs dub VA was replaced for similar reasons. Crunchyroll and Funimation as a whole also got ripped a new one for only hiring certain VAs to do their shows.
This is a real, legitimate problem, and shit like this undermines it so hard, she could set the actual movement back so hard by not telling the truth about it, and it SUCKS.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Oct 19, 2022 6:02:59 GMT -5
I bet Jim Sterling is regretting the video they did right now 😬
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 19, 2022 7:10:17 GMT -5
So they were supposedly too cheap to pay her, so they went out and got someone who would cost more?
Heh?
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Post by H-Virus on Oct 19, 2022 8:01:15 GMT -5
Just another prime example of why you shouldn't form an opinion until you hear both sides of a story.
Also, how baffling is it that video game VAs/developers don't receive residuals or royalties from sales? I just always assumed that was a mandatory thing for any form of media entertainment (movies, syndicated television, books, music...). How do video games manage to escape that?
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Post by chrom on Oct 19, 2022 8:09:18 GMT -5
Just another prime example of why you shouldn't form an opinion until you hear both sides of a story. Also, how baffling is it that video game VAs/developers don't receive residuals or royalties from sales? I just always assumed that was a mandatory thing for any form of media entertainment (movies, syndicated television, books, music...). How do video games manage to escape that? There's three sides to every story: Yours, Mine and The Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 19, 2022 8:36:26 GMT -5
Just another prime example of why you shouldn't form an opinion until you hear both sides of a story. Also, how baffling is it that video game VAs/developers don't receive residuals or royalties from sales? I just always assumed that was a mandatory thing for any form of media entertainment (movies, syndicated television, books, music...). How do video games manage to escape that? There's three sides to every story: Yours, Mine and The Truth Don't forget the 4th Side: The Entertaining Side that's mostly bullshit and exaggeration but it draws 100 times more interest.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 19, 2022 9:04:40 GMT -5
Just another prime example of why you shouldn't form an opinion until you hear both sides of a story. Also, how baffling is it that video game VAs/developers don't receive residuals or royalties from sales? I just always assumed that was a mandatory thing for any form of media entertainment (movies, syndicated television, books, music...). How do video games manage to escape that? The same way the WWE has, 'Oh, we're not real Hollywood, we can't afford to give you your due as we're only little' turned into 'thanks to years of lobbying, legal shenanigans and massive growth we don't have to give you your due, so we won't, and if you stand your ground we'll just replace you. What are you going to do, unionise? Good luck jumping through all the hoops set up to prevent that.'
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 19, 2022 9:12:36 GMT -5
Great, now every time someone with legitimate complaints about their treatment speaks out, the chuds will have a high profile example to trot out to try and throw their version of events into question. Jussie Smollett for videogames.
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